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PlayStation 5 - Next gen is expensive


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21 minutes ago, SnoopZakaDaVe said:

Got a pre order in at GAME. :)

 

 

 

Yep, full fat and headphones, payment taken and done.  Have a Shopto order so I'll see what happens supply-wise, but I suspect I've got one at GAME unless they get no consoles as their in-shop pre orders don't start until 8am tomorrow.

 

I'll see who's offering the best price on games before laying down for DS.

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Controllers are £50 there. That is way less than Joycons and will expect them to go lower. Each console launch has always seen an uptick in prices as they think they can try it on, the market will soon settle down.  And as someone still traumatised from buying £80 Streetfighter 2 and £60 rrp SNES carts, the last few years I’m actually making money

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36 minutes ago, Liamness said:

 

9.3L in volume. Series X is 6.86L, and S less than half that. My PC is about 7L. Of course the PS5 is less boxy that these, uh, boxes I'm comparing it to. But that won't help you fit it under the telly.


My PC is 81.5l. These things are relative.

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19 minutes ago, teddymeow said:

Pre-orders are up on Smyth's Toys.

 

Digital version is only down for delivery whereas the full monster is available to click and collect.

Because they don't have a truck big enough to deliver it to you! 

 

70 quids an utter fucking joke, greedy bastards. 

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3 minutes ago, Droo said:


In real terms weren’t we* paying more for games on the snes and megadrive than we are now?

 

* yer ma and yer da. 

 

They were way too dear then, and that was considering it was on a physical cartridge sold in shops paying staff and rates and stuff, not an aws server holding a bit of code.

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5 minutes ago, Droo said:


In real terms weren’t we* paying more for games on the snes and megadrive than we are now?

 

* yer ma and yer da. 


They were more expensive in non-real terms, too.
 

But “We” were buying second hand games from Electronics Boutique and Whizz Kids because of those prices and “we” certainly weren’t buying a machine with the cartridge slot sellotaped up so we couldn’t buy second-hand ones.

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50 minutes ago, Alex W. said:

You know what, I know I said they didn't shit the bed, but the post-conference info dump has me prepared to call this generation for Microsoft. The game prices, PSU wattage and sheer mass of the thing lend credence to rumours about this thing's performance and manufacturing cost that I'd previously been very sceptical of.

They didn't shit the bed. They got out of the bed though and pissed on it a lot. And hears the thing that annoys me more than anything. They posted all that info after the show because they knew that only those who looked into it would get pissed off while everyone else would go "Ps5 Has Spidey! 399 dollars wow!" They duped people into thinking they were getting good value while knowing that they could charge whatever the fuck they want because people are tied to their store.

 Even better is charging so much for a game that probably cost about 1/3 of development that something like the last of us did and sold for quite a bit less.

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The last major console release, in Switch, had the best game ever as a launch game, rapidly followed up with MK8, Splatoon 2 and Mario Odyssey in the following few months. 4 of the best games ever. This shit from MS and Sony deserves to go in the bin.

 

Don't support this bollocks with your money. Give it to someone who deserves it, I'm not just on about gaming.

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Game Pass & the Xbox One X backwards compatibility enhancements really won me over to Xbox after spending most of the generation without one. I’m generally more taken by the PS exclusives, but this just doesn’t offer anything like as much value overall, and Sony's continued caginess regarding backwards compatibility hardly fills me with confidence; I wouldn’t be surprised if you can only 'enjoy' PS4 games via this PS Plus collection thing.

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3 minutes ago, the_debaser said:

The last major console release, in Switch, had the best game ever as a launch game, rapidly followed up with MK8, Splatoon 2 and Mario Odyssey in the following few months. 4 of the best games ever. This shit from MS and Sony deserves to go in the bin.

 

Don't support this bollocks with your money. Give it to someone who deserves it, I'm not just on about gaming.

 

You forgot about ARMS. I got £70 worth out of that, easily. I'm still not done with it (need Rank 1).

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It’s quite a big call from Sony tbf. 
 

They could have priced higher but they have effectively undercut MS on the ‘true next gen’ machine by £90. Not apples for apples but the point is there. 
 

The real concern is the lock in with digital and this clusterfuck of pricing small print so far. If they are trying to sell demon souls at launch on the store for £60 with Spider-Man at £50 then that is A LOT of extra wedge to pay. The value just isn’t there from Sony. 
 

It’s tough for me as I always end up getting the new consoles but I’m an old man with less funds and time than I used to have. £30 a month for an X with the majority of my games included for 2 years is insane compared to this. 
 

Yes for the wealthy and the extreme hobbyist both are going to be the only option but in gonna try really hard not to do it any more. 

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£70 for a AAA exclusive launch game I could accept. But the same price for a remake of an old game, that’s just pure greed.

 

Am I right in thinking this dual entitlement stuff has forced the price of Cold War to increase on PS4? Where you have games like AC Valhalla showing a £51 mark for the PS5 version while the PS4 standard version of Cold War is fucking £65?!

 

The console pricing is fairly unsurprising, but the spread of game costs alongside the digital incentives each console is plugging and this dual incentive stuff is a complete mess.

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I posted a while back about how I've bought stuff in the past because I wanted to be part of the new experience. I bought a Switch with BOTW despite knowing that I've never really liked any Zelda before. They are great games, but not my cup of tea. I've bought lots of games over the years knowing that they probably werent for me, but I felt good when I didn't buy Last of Us 2, I just read the forum and watched the gameplay and realised that was all I needed to be part of that 'event'. Again a great game but I've got too much ongoing to warrant paying £50 for a game I'm going to struggle to devote 30 hours to.  I'll pick it up at some point, but this generation is the first that I've not been there day one, and haven't felt I'm missing out.

 

Red Dead Redemption was getting high praise on here but that was the first game I genuinely liked the look of and didn't end up buying at launch.  I felt I was missing out but then somehow I just never got around to picking it up.  When it appeared on Gamepass I gave it a try over a couple of nights and it's good, impressive, but I didn't go back to it, still too much in the pile. I'm now glad I didn't buy it at full price, because I wouldn't have devoted the time to it. I've realised this gen that I don't have to be there, day one.  I can let the hype blow over, pick it up later for £20 and if I don't play it to completion I've still had my money's worth.  Gamepass gives me lots to look at and to try genres I might not like, experiment with weird shit like One Leaves (awful game based on anti-smoking but it filled 2 hours).  I'm playing just as many games as ever, maybe more, but I'm not spending £50 on anything, usually paying more like £20, but still having fun.

 

But the idea of buying one game for £70 puts me right off.  That's a game changer right there, a reason to avoid next gen altogether. £70 is ridiculous for a video game. I can't think of many games , even those I've really enjoyed that I could hand-on-heart say are worth that. And a console without a disk drive means youre at the mercy of Xbox or PSN as to whether they reduce the prices or not.  I'd hate to be tied to digital only in an era where £70 is the new normal price for games. 

 

 

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