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4 minutes ago, Alex W. said:

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That is a hefty lad.

 

9.3L in volume. Series X is 6.86L, and S less than half that. My PC is about 7L. Of course the PS5 is less boxy that these, uh, boxes I'm comparing it to. But that won't help you fit it under the telly.

 

I think there's a strong possibility that for the first few years of its lifespan, most PS5 owners will be playing it on TVs that cannot physically display the resolutions it will typically render at. Is that wasteful? I guess they will get some, possibly most, of the benefit through downsampling.

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Just now, Liamness said:

 

9.3L in volume. Series X is 6.86L, and S less than half that. My PC is about 7L. Of course the PS5 is less boxy that these, uh, boxes I'm comparing it to. But that won't help you fit it under the telly.

 

I think there's a strong possibility that for the first few years of its lifespan, most PS5 owners will be playing it on TVs that cannot physically display the resolutions it will typically render at. Is that wasteful? I guess they will get some, possibly most, of the benefit through downsampling.

 

I'd like to downsample the size of the fucking thing.

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Can’t embed the tweet but OPM uk are stating UK pricing for games is up to £69.99. Still too pricey, but by buying PSN cards from shopto/cdkeys you’d be looking at saving another tenner.  Which brings it just below my “fuck that noise” territory.  Just.

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15 minutes ago, Uncle Mike said:

 

I've sort of lost track of the argument you're trying to make, but Ofcom had 35% of households owning a 4K TV towards the end of 2019. That was up from only 17% in 2017, so it's not like it's not growing.

 

Now obviously that's most likely going to be the main TV in the living room in most cases, but I'd assume the market for the Series X and PS5 isn't immediately the kid's bedroom. 4K as a resolution might not offer the same clear improvement that HD and flatscreens did, I'd probably agree. But I think the new better screens are proliferating perhaps faster than you realise. 

That's good information and I am wrong, there are more 4K TVs than o realised.  But even so that still means that 65% of people are in the same boat as me, and probably don't see the difference between a PS4 and PS5.  Also I assume that 35% market penetration includes all 4K TVs including the non HDR ones and crappy ones that were £250 in Asda. And are these consoles going to be used in the main TV room?  As I say, I'm sure in time we will all have OLEDs but it seems concerning how similar the next gen consoles look to the current ones for at least 65% of the marketplace.  

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4 minutes ago, Alex W. said:

 

I think all of Microsoft's in-house games are "smart delivery" so there's just one version - they'll be current gen prices.

 

Also just over fifty quid for 3rd party games if Amazon are anything to go by.

 

https://smile.amazon.co.uk/Assassins-Valhalla-Limited-Exclusive-Amazon-co-uk/dp/B087QTHDFB/ref=sr_1_2?crid=31QOSP2O1AGLS&keywords=assassins+creed+valhalla&qid=1600295058&sprefix=assa

 

Edit:  Also same price listed for PS5 and PS4 for that matter.

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35 minutes ago, Harsin said:

Bit weird that they’ve been banging the drum about just wait to see the experiences on PS5 only possible with our super duper SSD and stuff like Horizon being on PS4 as well it’ll probably amount to faster loading rather than any clever gameplay enhancements.

 

Yeah I'm really surprised to learn that HZD 2 particularly is going to be on PS4. Feels like it's going to be years until we get games that genuinely wouldn't have been possible on current gen consoles.

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Just now, Liamness said:

 

Yeah I'm really surprised to learn that HZD 2 particularly is going to be on PS4. Feels like it's going to be years until we get games that genuinely wouldn't have been possible on current gen consoles.

 

That said, it's going to be wild seeing anything that looks remotely like that trailer running on base PS4 hardware. Like, MGSV on Xbox 360 wild.

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4 minutes ago, dumpster said:

That's good information and I am wrong, there are more 4K TVs than o realised.  But even so that still means that 65% of people are in the same boat as me, and probably don't see the difference between a PS4 and PS4.  Also I assume that 35% market penetration includes all 4K TVs including the non HDR ones and crappy ones that were £250 in Asda.  As I say, I'm sure in time we will all have OLEDs but it seems concerning how similar the next gen consoles look to the current ones for at least 65% of the marketplace.  

 

When the 360 came out I had an SD TV,  then a 720p TV and a 1080p TV by the end of the generation. By your own account, this shift is less seismic.

 

If you're buying a new TV in the next few years, it'll be 4k. Adding in that it has to be a top of the line OLED is just goalpost shifting. Buy a new TV, to suit your needs and budget, as and when you need to. Doesn't mean you won't enjoy the new consoles. 

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DMC5 SE will feature a 4K30 quality mode, a 1080p60 performance mode, and a 120fps performance mode which disables ray-tracing.

 

https://blog.playstation.com/2020/09/16/devil-may-cry-5-special-edition-slices-its-way-onto-playstation-5/

 

It also has a Turbo mode at 1.2x play speed. Oh! and apparently Street Fighter 2 Turbo's "Turbo" mode came out of the PAL optimisations they did, which sped up the game on NTSC. Don't know if that bit of trivia was out there.

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