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If they get the digital down to £349 I would buy that. Even though I only buy digital games on heavy sale. 

 

I'm hoping I can sell my 2 month old PS4 and a bunch of games for £200 to but a dent in it. 

 

I'm getting a SX so have that for my multiplatform and 4k blu rays. 

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10 minutes ago, Kevvy Metal said:

 

That's your Xbox Series X price confirmed as $499

 

I'm doubling down on this for the PS5 prices ^ It's totally going to happen. 

If you’re right, that’ll make the digital PS5 a proper bargain.

 

It’s going to be an expensive Christmas!

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18 minutes ago, gooner4life said:

Sony are in big trouble

 

I'm not so sure. I imagine they can land the disc-based PS5 for £449-£479 by taking a small hit on each one.

But Game Pass hasn't done them any real damage yet has it, and it's been an amazing service for years?

Globally they still dominate. Not sure yet why that would change, unless they are well over £500.

 

Edit: And I assume the messaging to counter the Series X is easy enough. Just define true next-gen as being 4K. (I'm guessing the majority of households have a 4K TV by now.)

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The lineup of games Sony has showcased gives a good impression of what the PS5 is capable of. Grand Turismo, Ratchet & Clank, are the stand out games for me. Microsoft on the other hand has been very disappointing with their games shown.

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I expect the disk version to be priced at same price as Xbox Series X - £449. The pricing for the digital version will be interesting though. It has the same internals sans physical media drive so they can't go too low as it will make the disk version seem really expensive. And they can't go too high as it will make the Xbox Series S a bargain. :) 

 

I think £449 for full fat, £349 for the digital only version....

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EA Play on PS4 has a much smaller range of games as there's no backwards compatibility with the previous few generations. Unless there's some unnanounced BC news, I can't imagine that'll change on PS5.

 

Would be fantastic if it happened, though.

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32 minutes ago, jonamok said:

 

I'm not so sure. I imagine they can land the disc-based PS5 for £449-£479 by taking a small hit on each one.

But Game Pass hasn't done them any real damage yet has it, and it's been an amazing service for years?

Globally they still dominate. Not sure yet why that would change, unless they are well over £500.

 

Edit: And I assume the messaging to counter the Series X is easy enough. Just define true next-gen as being 4K. (I'm guessing the majority of households have a 4K TV by now.)


I think you’re vastly overestimating how many “normal” people care about 4K. Especially when the difference between 1440P and 4K is likely going to be around £200. And that’s not even mentioning the constant supply of content via Game Pass.

 

Microsoft have really played a blinder here, especially with the addition of EA Play to Game Pass. It’s going to be really interesting to see how this pans out and if Sony can manage to counter the strength of what MS are offering, or if they’ll hope the PlayStation brand is strong enough to carry them. 

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I think that'll hold true outside the US as well and Sony know this so I don't think they'll adjust their pricing based on the Series S announcement. I'm still expecting $499/$599. Obviously I hope I'm completely wrong. 

 

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5 minutes ago, bear said:

I think that'll hold true outside the US as well and Sony know this so I don't think they'll adjust their pricing based on the Series S announcement. I'm still expecting $499/$599. Obviously I hope I'm completely wrong. 

 

They've announced the price of the X as well. Sony need to compete.

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1 hour ago, gooner4life said:

Sony are in big trouble


I agree, and like some others have commented in the respective SS/SX threads, MS have get everything right bar the games - this just goes to show how monumentally aggressive their pricing strategy is that it has completely changed the conversation and the battle for market dominance is now potentially being waged on Microsoft’s terms (loss-leading product, cloud-first strategy) rather than Sony’s (AAA exclusive games).
 

Im mainly interested in playing games on GPU that I missed this gen (like Halo 5 and Quantum Break) and maybe some multi-platform titles I wouldn’t have bothered with had they not been freely available through GPU. That’s an exciting, but not exactly next-gen prospect, to me at least. 
 

Then I think about Spider-Man: MM and how much fun that will be, as a next gen exclusive. Maybe Sony should play up their AAA angle by bundling Spider-Man with the system right from the off. 

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20 minutes ago, Bojangle said:

I think you’re vastly overestimating how many “normal” people care about 4K

 

Perhaps, but if half the country has gone out and bought a new 4K TV in the last few years (assuming everyone's previously good 1080 TVs didn't all cark it at once), then I guess they care about 4K to some extent.

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3 minutes ago, Jg15 said:

Sony still have huge market and mindshare, it won't make a huge difference in the grand scheme of things. Sure MS will sell a few Xboxes from this but Playstation 5 will still sell out, even if it is £200 dearer.


I’ll imagine they’ll both manage to sell out, like the vast majority of new tech product launches these days. It’s gonna be a longer race than just selling out at launch, that’s a given.

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1 minute ago, jonamok said:

 

Perhaps, but if half the country has gone out and bought a new 4K TV in the last few years (assuming everyone's previously good 1080 TVs didn't all cark it at once), then I guess they care about 4K to some extent.

 

Do they care about 4K though or did they just buy a 4K TV because it’s “basically impossible” to buy a non 4K set these days? I mean that’s the argument everyone makes, right?

 

We all have relatives with 4K TVs that absolutely do not care what resolution they’re watching in.

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6 minutes ago, Bojangle said:

 

Do they care about 4K though or did they just buy a 4K TV because it’s “basically impossible” to buy a non 4K set these days? I mean that’s the argument everyone makes, right?

 

We all have relatives with 4K TVs that absolutely do not care what resolution they’re watching in.

And to be honest, most people have 4K TV’s that are cheap and cheerful - including myself, not everyone can afford an LG OLED.

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1 hour ago, jonamok said:

 

I'm not so sure. I imagine they can land the disc-based PS5 for £449-£479 by taking a small hit on each one.

But Game Pass hasn't done them any real damage yet has it, and it's been an amazing service for years?

Globally they still dominate. Not sure yet why that would change, unless they are well over £500.

 

Edit: And I assume the messaging to counter the Series X is easy enough. Just define true next-gen as being 4K. (I'm guessing the majority of households have a 4K TV by now.)

In a global recession, game pass matters. And some

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29 minutes ago, Jg15 said:

Sony still have huge market and mindshare, it won't make a huge difference in the grand scheme of things. Sure MS will sell a few Xboxes from this but Playstation 5 will still sell out, even if it is £200 dearer.

Backwards compat with the PS4 is massive. Completely huge, much more Impact than £150 price diff....

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I suspect that most people would struggle to tell the difference between 1440P and 2160P, so I would be surprised if "true" 4K was a real system-seller.

 

I'd be interested to see what percentage of people with 4K TVs pay for Netflix's premium 4K service, compared to the standard one.

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33 minutes ago, jonamok said:

 

Perhaps, but if half the country has gone out and bought a new 4K TV in the last few years (assuming everyone's previously good 1080 TVs didn't all cark it at once), then I guess they care about 4K to some extent.

 

Is that a stat you've seen or a guess? Because I'd be amazed if anywhere near 50% of households have a 4K tv.

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