PlayStation 5 - Next gen is expensive

[Alex W.]

2 minutes ago, Broker said:

I was scared. Seven years ago I was still concerned I might not always have internet access. And I still traded in games regularly. It seemed like I would be losing a lot by giving those things up. But I gave them all up by choice anyway.

Yeah, you moved on without Microsoft having to change the way your disk based games work. That’s kind of my point. All of this “let go of the past” stuff can just happen without subjecting everyone to a mild inconvenience, and nobody has to pretend that it’s a convenience.

[Uzi]

I'm really not bothered by all of this. I never expected any such pads to be so versatile like this. 

 

 

Written on Dual Shock 4®

[Down by Law]

CEX pays silly prices for used controllers - a couple of weeks ago I took in well used but good condition Steel Black and Blue Camo controllers (I got a Last of Us one with the Pro console so they were surplus to requirements) and they gave me £37 each for them in cash. I bought them during the days of play in 2017 and 2018 respectively for £35 each.

[p1nseeker]

6 minutes ago, Darwock said:

FFS, this is still going on?

 

omg this.

 

Went to first unread post that was 12 pages back, skipped to last page and here we are! Incredible scenes.

[Alex W.]

To give another example, the PS2 only had two controller ports, right? And that meant you couldn’t play four player games unless you paid for a multi-tap. Which honestly wasn’t much of a problem in practice and it left room on the front for them to still use the big sockets for PS1 pads and memory cards. But we don’t have to blow it out of proportion by saying it was an anticonsumerist aggressive money grab by Sony or act like having fewer ports was a big favour Sony were doing us because we didn’t need those ports anyway. It just is was it is.

 

 

[Steven]

25 minutes ago, FiveFootNinja said:

Just caught up with the State of Play... bit 'meh' wasn't it.

 

Both Sony and Microsoft are doing a fantastic job of slowly but surely turning me off buying either of their new expensive boxes 

 

I really need to see the launch lineup for PS5. Bugsnax, Spiderman and that shitty-looking Gearbox thing aren't opening my wallet this year, although I suspect Sony are confident they have something with Bugsnax (It can still wait, mind). As for MS, it would seem I can play their biggest title on my One X using Gamepass.

 

Like you say, they've done very little to convince me to buy either in the immediate future. Really hoping they've held some surprises back.

[Calashnikov]

1 minute ago, p1nseeker said:

 

omg this.

 

Went to first unread post that was 12 pages back, skipped to last page and here we are! Incredible scenes.

This discussion is the real Control expansion.

[Alex W.]

Calm doon is what I’m saying I guess. It’s not some frothing anti-Sony fervour for someone to point out it’s a shame it doesn’t do it, and it’s not rabid fanboyism if you don’t think it’s going to make a difference.

[b00dles]

I love the difference in here with someone that just posts some sort of 'thinking aloud / bored at work' type posts and the assumption by some other people that everyone is always serious and has deep concerns about everything they post. 

 

I think it's similar with a lot of the assumptions about fanboy behaviour.

 

 

[Alex W.]

I wonder if it comes across as so contentious because everyone’s either confused about it or has come to a different conclusion about it. It can be “all of your PS4 accessories work with PS5, except DS4 only works on PS4 games” and it can be “you need new accessories for the PS5, except PSVR stuff and specialist pads”, or it can be whatever else. So there’s like 50 people with their different takes on it and on a forum that adds up to 12 pages of subtly conflicting opinions on the same thing no individual person probably cares that much about.

[Gabe]

7 hours ago, Stanshall said:

Re: Godfall

 

It really does look like a single player version of the Black Desert MMORPG

 

 

 

It plays like a mixture of Diablo and Souls-lite combat. It's actually pretty decent but too stingy with upgrades etc to keep me interested. I assume Godfall will be more generous as a predominantly single player version of a similar thing. I'm really puzzled by the deep dive, though. It doesn't appear to have one single idea or mechanic we haven't seen before. 

 

Edit: Durrr...I'm actually thinking of Bless Unleashed which got mixed up with Black Desert in my mind - which shows you how many similar games already exist with the same mechanics... 

 

 

 

I've never seen Bless Unleashed, but you were right the first time, that UI is exactly the same as Black Desert Online from the experience/health/magic down to the little present box down at the bottom.

[Marlew]

Apologies, that was unclear. Those screens are Black Desert, that's right. Godfall made me think of Bless Unleashed but I misremembered the name as Black Desert - because they're so bloody similar! 

[Steven]

Just heard you can't use your DS4 with the new console -WTF?

[AI]

18 minutes ago, Steven said:

Just heard you can't use your DS4 with the new console -WTF?

 

Sixaxis support is more important. Sony's greatest ever revolutionary contribution to videogame controllers. And those convex shoulder triggers! *Chefs kiss*

 

Phil Harrison must be so disappointed with Sony and the DualSense's level of enhanced vibration and haptic feedback. Such a last, last gen feature. I bet he's glad he left that sinking ship.

 

[Alex W.]

I guess those USB 9-pin-to-PS4 adapters would work but only in PS4 games.

[Spacehost]

Where can I plug my Amiga mouse in Carrion is LITERALLY UNPLAYABLE without an era correct input device

[Popo]

All points on this subject have now been made, there is no need to continue to post the same thing again, thank you. 

[footle]

30 minutes ago, AI1 said:

Phil Harrison must be so disappointed with Sony and the DualSense's level of enhanced vibration and haptic feedback. Such a last, last gen feature. I bet he's glad he left that sinking ship.

 

well I laughed

[Alex W.]

This delicious pear requires no external calibration device.

[AI]

Is Phil Harrison a member here? 

 

Stadia's great! 

[Stavi]

3 hours ago, Steven said:

 

I really need to see the launch lineup for PS5. Bugsnax, Spiderman and that shitty-looking Gearbox thing aren't opening my wallet this year, although I suspect Sony are confident they have something with Bugsnax (It can still wait, mind). As for MS, it would seem I can play their biggest title on my One X using Gamepass.

 

Like you say, they've done very little to convince me to buy either in the immediate future. Really hoping they've held some surprises back.

 

They were pretty clear beforehand that this State of Play was for the PS4 with a few PS5 "updates". I believe there's going to be another one specifically for the PS5 soon

 

[SeanR]

3 hours ago, Alex W. said:

To give another example, the PS2 only had two controller ports, right? And that meant you couldn’t play four player games unless you paid for a multi-tap. Which honestly wasn’t much of a problem in practice and it left room on the front for them to still use the big sockets for PS1 pads and memory cards. But we don’t have to blow it out of proportion by saying it was an anticonsumerist aggressive money grab by Sony or act like having fewer ports was a big favour Sony were doing us because we didn’t need those ports anyway. It just is was it is.

 

 

 

try plugging a PS2 multitap into a PS2 slim...

[Boozy The Clown]

Recalls a story from Steve Burns or the muscle guy from videogamer.com where they were in a meeting with senior Sony management pissing themselves laughing at the profit margin on PS2 memory cards.

[Stanley]

When is the train leaving padgate?

[mikeyl]

Actually furious now thinking about it, during the course of its lifespan I’ve busted a black, red, blue and 20th anniversary DS4 and now left with a camo and white one. £300 spent on shitty poorly built controllers (the cost of three Windows 10s or access to Gears of War 5 for seven years). 

[Girth Certificate]

Yeah I've gone through quite a few PS4 pads. The dualsense better be less of a bag of shit

[mikeyl]

Guarantee that the Dualsense you start off with won’t be the one that you will be bringing over to PS6

[footle]

7 hours ago, Stanley said:

I had a thought last night whilst watching this, eventually PS5 games will cone to the PS Now service which, in theory, means PS4 owners could stream PS5 games. 

 

25 minutes ago, Stanley said:

When is the train leaving padgate?

hmm ;-)

[rafaqat]

16 minutes ago, Mr Combo Breaker said:

Yeah I've gone through quite a few PS4 pads. The dualsense better be less of a bag of shit

 

I'm hoping bigger means sturdier.

 

[Ferine]

Outside the malting thumbstick rubber of the initial launch batch, can't say I've run into any issues with any of the DualShock 4's I've used. If I gave them a clean the only real sign they'd even been used would be wear on the sticker at the back.

 

In general I think controllers are far better built than they used to be, despite being a lot more complicated in construction.