PlayStation 5 - Next gen is expensive

[Alex W.]

3 hours ago, jonamok said:

So, much as I despise the look of the thing, I’m already warming to the idea of letting a launch PS5 in my house.

[moosegrinder]

11 hours ago, jonamok said:

So, much as I despise the look of the thing, I’m already warming to the idea of letting a launch PS5 in my house.
 

And it’s entirely because of my growing excitement for SW Squadrons and a hopefully reasonable expectation that the PS5 version will give the PSVR mode a nice resolution and shinies boost.
 

God damn it.

 

Even with the power boost aren't the screens in the headset a limiting factor in how high the resolution is?

[krenzler]

Could Sony be holding back on the PS5 teardown because of some special (GPU) sauce from AMD that they (AMD) don't want Nvidia to know about yet?

[Boozy The Clown]

 

 

 

[Down by Law]

I had a really lucid dream about ps5 pricing last night

 

Disc £429

Digital £399

 

Here's hoping! 

[Stanley]

15 minutes ago, Down by Law said:

I had a really lucid dream about ps5 pricing last night

 

Disc £429

Digital £399

 

Here's hoping! 

If so I think most people would go for the disc version, unless the digital has more storage. 
 

I think there will be quite a bigger margin to nudge people towards digital, there has to be a significant price difference, so £399 and £499, or even £429-£499 but there has to be enough of a gap to be of any real value. 

[Down by Law]

I measured up, there's no way it will fit in my unit without sacrificing the bookshelf speakers, so behind the TV it will go. When it's so visually unappealing it seems the best place for it anyway 

[Eighthours]

51 minutes ago, Boozy The Clown said:

 

 

 

Middle guy kinda looks embarrassed!

[Hitcher]

50 minutes ago, Boozy The Clown said:

 

 

 

That's huge seeing as the average Japanese man is 2" shorter than in the UK.

[teddymeow]

1 hour ago, Boozy The Clown said:

 

That's a brave face. Secretly his back is about to give out.

 

[FiveFootNinja]

Much like @jonamok, despite my initial reaction to the reveal I can well see it being the launch console in my house too (again with VR and Squadrons).

 

I'd been fairly set on the Xbox Series X until I went back to the PS4 a few months ago to carry on with the outstanding exclusives and was reminded just how bloody good it has been this generation by comparison. Plus I really think it's time to dip my toe into VR (thanks Squadrons, you are going to cost me a lot of money).

 

Need to measure up my media cabinet to see if I can squeeze the new one into the slot occupied by tired and noisy launch PS4 (in fairness by the time PS5 comes out that space may have been expanded by black lava from that console melting). Had it been a better looking unit I might have been able to convince my wife to have it on the surface above but there is zero chance now I've seen it, into the hot box it must go! I'm genuinely concerned how it's going to work though with a PS5, Sky Q and eventually Series X box all in there though 

[Minion]

Loving how huge it is. Bring it on.

[teddymeow]

4 minutes ago, Minion said:

Loving how huge it is. Bring it on.

 

 

[Alex W.]

2 hours ago, krenzler said:

Could Sony be holding back on the PS5 teardown because of some special (GPU) sauce from AMD that they (AMD) don't want Nvidia to know about yet?

The secret sauce is the faster SSD and the storage controller etc. required to make use of it. It’s clear that Sony decided that having twice the storage speed was worth  a 20% GPU deficit. They might think the gameplay benefits are desirable; they might count on making the GPU difference up when Nanite arrives which makes heavy use of the SSD; they might just think that checkerboard rendering will close the perceived image quality gap until the PS5 Pro comes out and more people have 4K TVs. But I don’t think the PS5 is going to surprise us by matching or outperforming the Series X visually at launch.

[Hitcher]

If that guy is average height then that makes it about 40cm (15.7") tall. The XsX is 30cm (11.85") in comparison.

[JohnC]

And how tall is it if he’s not average height?

[layten]

2 hours ago, krenzler said:

Could Sony be holding back on the PS5 teardown because of some special (GPU) sauce from AMD that they (AMD) don't want Nvidia to know about yet?

nah m8, it's a second GPU in the PSU innit

[SeanR]

2 minutes ago, PC Master Race said:

nah m8, it's a second GPU in the PSU innit

the third SKU

[Hitcher]

23 minutes ago, JohnC said:

And how tall is it if he’s not average height?

Above average.

[footle]

2 hours ago, krenzler said:

Could Sony be holding back on the PS5 teardown because of some special (GPU) sauce from AMD that they (AMD) don't want Nvidia to know about yet?

yeah, definitely.

 

(You need to think about lead times: if AMD special secret sauce it’d take Nvidia two years to replicate it and get it into a shipping product, if they could dodge the relevant patents at all).

[Harsin]

28 minutes ago, JohnC said:

And how tall is it if he’s not average height?

He'd have to be a fucking Hobbit for that thing to be approaching a normal size.

[Alex W.]

That picture would tally with everyone’s size mock ups. Here’s Ken K with the PS3, and the PS5 is bigger than that:

 

 

[Alex W.]

Y’know, those fins are starting to make sense as air guides/noise baffles if the PS5 is going to fill up a space on a TV stand. They will also prevent you putting anything right up against the air intakes, like how everything Sony made post-PS1 put the air intakes in a groove or under an overhang. (And the air outlets on the back of the PS3 and PS4, come to think of it.)

[Petrousgyre]

1 hour ago, Alex W. said:

But I don’t think the PS5 is going to surprise us by matching or outperforming the Series X visually at launch.

 

I suspect there won't be much in it. XSX games will likely run at a slightly higher resolution and have cleaner (ie less grainy) ray traced elements. PS5 will likely have higher resolution texture maps and slightly less pop-in. You'll need a proper forensic examination to distinguish them in most cases I reckon. 

[Spacehost]

3 minutes ago, petrolgirls said:

You'll need a proper forensic examination to distinguish them in most cases I reckon

Good, what's the point of all this technology if I can't rail away in a half-informed, half-pulled-out-my-arse manner with links to pages and pages of numbers of pixels and compute units? It's not a console generation if I don't make a complete tit of myself arguing about technology.

[Stanley]

I think releasing LOU2 now is the best marketing you could give PS5 - basically saying, this is the reason you should buy a PlayStation. 

[CarloOos]

I'll buy the refreshed version in a few years when they actually have a proper first party lineup. Ratchet and Clank isn't enough to make me want a console the size of my subwoofer (and neither is Horizon, to be honest). Next God of War, maybe.

[Stanley]

I’d quite like one for Demon’s if that’s a launch game, but definitely not Ratchet. I’m sure there will be plenty of games and PS4 boost patches to entice people too though. Cyberpunk would be the one for me also. 

[teddymeow]

That Jim Ryan has already come out and said that TLOU2 runs really well on PS5 is enough reason for me to buy one at launch.

 

I've gone from: not at launch to, hmm maybe to yep, fuck it, why not!!?

[CarloOos]

16 minutes ago, Stanley said:

I’d quite like one for Demon’s if that’s a launch game, but definitely not Ratchet. I’m sure there will be plenty of games and PS4 boost patches to entice people too though. Cyberpunk would be the one for me also. 

 

I'm here for the enhanced next-gen patches but I think the XSX is a safer bet in that regard, Sony will patch some of their games but you just know Microsoft are going to go all-out on that side of things. It won't be a weird boost mode either, it'll just work. I'm excited by the prospect of them potentially revisiting older games that were never patched by the devs and making them 4k, some early titles like Alien Isolation and Arkham Knight are crying out for it.