PlayStation 5 - Next gen is expensive

[SozzlyJoe]

I suspect it is Spiderman's 'Infamous: First Light' - a standalone but one that uses most of the same assets as the first game. That's probably to be expected as I couldn't see how they could knock out another full game in time for launch. I don't really have a big problem with that, personally. First Light was meaty enough to stand on its own.

[womblingfree]

Just saw this. Horizon and Spiderman were the highlights for me, plus Resi but I presume Resi will be on every console going. So you get GTAV free and installed at launch, plus something about a million credits per month with ps+?? Whatever. Ghost wire looked interesting too and the cat thing where all the robots are sentient Apple II’s.

[Count Buffalos]

The dino game didn’t appeal to me either but was probably a good inclusion if you’re looking to show the diversity and range of the offer than than the obvious grimdark / dudebro stuff.

 

[Dudley]

31 minutes ago, robotattack said:

 

I can only think Rockstar either paid for it, or it was in exchange for some exclusivity or something, because opening your presentation for your next console with a 7-year-old game a lot of people will have already bought twice would be really fuckin' stupid otherwise. Especially when people are eagerly awaiting for a sequel of that game, or even any game from Rockstar. Free access to an online game that most people don't care about was hardly a draw either.

 

My pet theory is still that was supposed to be a GTA6 trailer and it wasn't ready.

[womblingfree]

Just now, Dudley said:

 

My pet theory is still that was supposed to be a GTA6 trailer and it wasn't ready.

Christ, even a two second teaser would have been acceptable if it’s anywhere near ready.

[footle]

Just now, womblingfree said:

Christ, even a two second teaser would have been acceptable if it’s anywhere near ready.

 

If they're releasing GTAV next-gen-next-gen edition in fall 2021, you'll be waiting a while till GTA VI. For one thing, you need one hell of an install base or sell through to hit 80-100 million units, which is what T2's investors will be looking for.

[Ry]

6 minutes ago, womblingfree said:

Just saw this. Horizon and Spiderman were the highlights for me, plus Resi but I presume Resi will be on every console going. So you get GTAV free and installed at launch, plus something about a million credits per month with ps+?? Whatever. Ghost wire looked interesting too and the cat thing where all the robots are sentient Apple II’s.

They are saying this GTA 5 "upgrade" wont be available until mid 2021

[Radish]

My main disappointment I think was the lack of release dates on things - I thought for sure that if Demon's Souls was revealed it would have a release date. It looks amazing though:

 

Spoiler

 

[Ry]

It wasnt even revealed that Demon Souls Remastered was an exclusive to PS5. 

 

Im curious if there will be any exclusive AAA titles at launch. Much like the XSX its going to be cross platform stuff

 

 

[BabelRich]

I fully expect Aloy's horse to sink in to the swamp at this point of the game.

 

[SozzlyJoe]

Seemed to be a different tone to the presentation - a welcome one - where there was notably less game footage of people going "fuck you motherfucker" and blowing someone's head off with a shotgun. Even Hitman was comparatively restrained. I'm sure the games are as violent as ever, it's just the highlights reel of gory death to the backdrop of a whooping crowd (like it was some sort of serial killer convention) always seemed a bit off so I'd be glad to see them moving away from that.

[englishbob]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-53017909

 

Can you tell us a little bit about the PS5's design, because at first glance it looks more like something that you would find in the furniture section of a store rather than its consumer electronics zone?

The PlayStation sits in the living area of most homes, and we kind of felt it would be nice to provide a design that would really grace most living areas. That's what we've tried to do. And, you know, we think we've been successful in that.

 

"What's that noise like a plane taking off in my living area?"

"Ah, that's just that thing there trying to find a multiplayer game in a lobby screen on Call of Duty 17..."

[SozzlyJoe]

Yeah, they really, REALLY need to sort out those goddamn fans. Aside from that if the focus this gen is on cutting loading times then I am so totally there for that.

[englishbob]

4 minutes ago, SozzlyJoe said:

Seemed to be a different tone to the presentation - a welcome one - where there was notably less game footage of people going "fuck you motherfucker" and blowing someone's head off with a shotgun. Even Hitman was comparatively restrained. I'm sure the games are as violent as ever, it's just the highlights reel of gory death to the backdrop of a whooping crowd (like it was some sort of serial killer convention) always seemed a bit off so I'd be glad to see them moving away from that.

 

I thought that. I think the gender balance went completely the other way, and while it smacks a bit of a knee jerk reaction to things (understandable), it was certainly no testorsorne filled, "get me a sitrep" type yawn-fest. I'm in favour of that.

[ryodi]

24 minutes ago, Dudley said:

 

My pet theory is still that was supposed to be a GTA6 trailer and it wasn't ready.

GTA Online is a license to print money and putting it out on a new system which won’t have that many games at launch will help keep the player numbers healthy. I doubt they are even working on a. GTA6

 

[RubberJohnny]

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So you get GTAV free and installed at launch, plus something about a million credits per month with ps+??

 

57 minutes ago, ryodi said:

GTA Online is a license to print money and putting it out on a new system which won’t have that many games at launch will help keep the player numbers healthy. 

 

It's not coming at launch, it's coming a year into the consoles life.

 

We're going to have to post this for every user who's catching up, aren't we?

[Uncle Mike]

My biggest issue (and I think this is also true of XSX, although less so) is that I don't know where I will put the PS5. My unit thing doesn't have much slack around the PS4 Pro, and this looks longer.

[englishbob]

The digtal version is interesting, and certainly illustrates a level of confidence. 

 

I'm still firmly on the physical side though, for a number of reasons...

 

1) Price difference is still ridiculous between the two, and still no real choice on who you buy it digitally from, so prices remain fairly uncompetitive

2) I can sell my pile of shame

3) I can borrow someone elses pile of shame

4) It will have a 4K Blu-Ray film player in it. Possibly my first steps into 4K 

 

Point 4) is really only an issue if you like films. Streaming and digtial services offer a very poor selection on films, and they are all in Dolby Digital 5.1 lossy. As a film lover, disc wins and continues to win, until they pull the plug on physical discs. Then you will have to have a subscription to Disney+, Sony Online, Univeral Online, Warner Online etc. etc. and the likes of Netflix picking up the outsiders, to get your film fix, and that doesn't sound like fun to me.

[Broker]

40 minutes ago, Dudley said:

 

My pet theory is still that was supposed to be a GTA6 trailer and it wasn't ready.

Why would they make GTA6? They’re making more than they ever have from single player games churning out boring cars for GTAO for what must be a fraction of the cost. Why would they make a new full game?

[Down by Law]

25 minutes ago, SozzlyJoe said:

Seemed to be a different tone to the presentation - a welcome one - where there was notably less game footage of people going "fuck you motherfucker" and blowing someone's head off with a shotgun. Even Hitman was comparatively restrained. I'm sure the games are as violent as ever, it's just the highlights reel of gory death to the backdrop of a whooping crowd (like it was some sort of serial killer convention) always seemed a bit off so I'd be glad to see them moving away from that.

 

Yeah - I turned to my wife and said I can't believe a flat top space marine hasn't showed up yet

 

[robotattack]

41 minutes ago, Dudley said:

 

My pet theory is still that was supposed to be a GTA6 trailer and it wasn't ready.

 

Then either don't show anything, or just display the logo to acknowledge its existence. That would have been enough to satisfy most people. Besides, GTA VI is reportedly still only in early development, so don't expect it anytime soon.

 

42 minutes ago, womblingfree said:

So you get GTAV free and installed at launch, plus something about a million credits per month with ps+?? Whatever. 

 

It's GTA Online that's free, and it's only free for three months.

[Nick R]

CAT COUNT:

 

1. Stray

2. The hologram cat in Pragmata

3. The one that turns up at 1:01:50 in Eurogamer's stream. 

 

 

[Girth Certificate]

6 minutes ago, Broker said:

Why would they make GTA6? They’re making more than they ever have from single player games churning out boring cars for GTAO for what must be a fraction of the cost. Why would they make a new full game?

 

to be fair the flying deloreans with rockets aren't exactly boring  

[Broker]

14 minutes ago, Mr Combo Breaker said:

 

to be fair the flying deloreans with rockets aren't exactly boring  

There’s generally only one vehicle with crazy properties every few updates though, the vast majority of what they add are sports cars and clothes that don’t really add anything to gameplay, with the occasional delorians and rocket bikes.

[Stanley]

38 minutes ago, Broker said:

Why would they make GTA6? They’re making more than they ever have from single player games churning out boring cars for GTAO for what must be a fraction of the cost. Why would they make a new full game?

Artistic fulfilment? 

[Monkeyspill]

The GTA thing really annoyed me. It’s so lazy and greedy. Couldn’t they at least have made some DLC - or a new game in the same environment? 

[rgraves]

Christ - the whippersnapper girl in that Eurogamer video @ 17:58 - "what's Wipeout?" 

[Broker]

4 minutes ago, Stanley said:

Artistic fulfilment? 

[RubberJohnny]

1 minute ago, Monkeyspill said:

The GTA thing really annoyed me. It’s so lazy and greedy. Couldn’t they at least have made some DLC - or a new game in the same environment? 

 

Yep, given Microsoft has been really pushing the buy once get next gen upgrade free thing, Sony opening with a game where you don't get that makes it seem like they won't be following.

[JoeK]

3 minutes ago, RubberJohnny said:

 

Yep, given Microsoft has been really pushing the buy once get next gen upgrade free thing, Sony opening with a game where you don't get that makes it seem like they won't be following.

 

You never know, pigs might start flying and everyone who owns the thing currently might get the upgrade for free...