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DeciderVT

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8 minutes ago, Stanley said:

Microsoft are doing a subscription package where you pay off the console over time, maybe Sony will too. I’ve got a feeling this will be £429, but I’m never right. 


Something like this would be a win-win really. The customer could avoid a huge upfront price tag and the company could avoid the negative PR associated with it, while (possibly) avoiding losing money on sales of the hardware if it was forced to sell below a certain price to be competitive.

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MattyP

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5 minutes ago, Down by Law said:

I worked for one of the biggest Gamestations in England when the PS3 launched and it was a complete non-event. It was way way too expensive. 

Didn't it start of at £599 though and a few months after dropped to £349 with a bundle of games?  IIRC I picked a 60GB version up at that point.

 

360 was only £279 and released in December 2005, PS3 launched in March 2007 in the UK IIRC. Hell of a gap between launches and gave people who were on the fence time to experience and pick up a 360. PS3 was too late. Price was possibly one factor but the 360 was better technically and released earlier.

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13 minutes ago, Down by Law said:

I worked for one of the biggest Gamestations in England when the PS3 launched and it was a complete non-event. It was way way too expensive. 


Likewise, I worked for HMV when the PS3 was released. We were an Oxford Street branch so we had sales but the majority of customers thought £425 was ridiculous. A very different console and audience but it was a sobering contrast to the Wii, which was a crazy launch.

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4 minutes ago, ThePixelbarks said:

This reveal tonight will have to show an exclusive of some real impact to sway me away from going for a series X next gen. As there's a good handful of games from the Xbox one that I really want to play (read as: upscaled viva piñata), and having them all on the gamepads is one hell of a temptation.

 

Exactly this from me as well.  Although I really want to play Horizon ZD2 I will not be paying north of £450 for the privilege.  

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2 minutes ago, MattyP said:

Didn't it start of at £599 though and a few months after dropped to £349 with a bundle of games?  IIRC I picked a 60GB version up at that point.

 

360 was only £279 and released in December 2005, PS3 launched in March 2007 in the UK IIRC. Hell of a gap between launches and gave people who were on the fence time to experience and pick up a 360. PS3 was too late. Price was possibly one factor but the 360 was better technically and released earlier.

 

£425 for the 60GB at launch.

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Just now, MattyP said:

Didn't it start of at £599 though and a few months after dropped to £349 with a bundle of games?  IIRC I picked a 60GB version up at that point.

 

360 was only £279 and released in December 2005, PS3 launched in March 2007 in the UK IIRC. Hell of a gap between launches and gave people who were on the fence to pick up a 360. PS3 was too late. Price was possibly one factor but the 360 was better technically and released earlier.


Price was definitely a deciding factor, Sony were pushing the PS3 as a deluxe console on launch and priced it as such.

The 360 got better as a console, remember that it didn't even have HDMI output until the Elite was released and the HDD was positioned as the expensive alternative SKU. A good deal of 360 owners would've been playing on an analogue-only timebomb with those piddly memory cards in 2005.

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5 minutes ago, teddymeow said:

 

£425 for the 60GB at launch.

Ah yes.... That figure rings a bell now. Remember getting one with two games and a couple of Blu-rays for £349 when Sony realised they'd buggered the launch up! :D Think I traded my launch 360 in before it got RRoD and sadly before MS announced the extended warranty.

In a somewhat ironic twist that PS3 got YLoD in the end :D At least launch consoles seem to be more reliable these days....

 

 

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Sorry if already posted, but all the emails and tweets from Sony point towards some website, which is a bit useless if you don't plan on using a PC etc.

 

Seems that it will end up directing you to YouTube anyway, I can't think of another service that could handle the load to be honest. I'll be watching from the PS4 app I think!

 

 

 

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Fascinating as everyone’s random price guesses are there’s no way we’ll see that answered tonight.

 

From all reports we won’t even see the console (though I imagine we still might).

 

But I’ll certainly settle for an hour+ of next-gen gaming and some smutty hardware talk.

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20 minutes ago, ThePixelbarks said:

This reveal tonight will have to show an exclusive of some real impact to sway me away from going for a series X next gen. As there's a good handful of games from the Xbox one that I really want to play (read as: upscaled viva piñata), and having them all on the gamepads is one hell of a temptation.

If anyone needs exclusives with real impact it’s Microsoft, I don’t think Sony have anything to prove in that department. 

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31 minutes ago, SF-02 said:

Thing I've learned about rllmuk and numerous threads about prices is many posters are in the middle to top income brackets and overstimate what the mass market will pay. I remember it with PS3 and Xbox one. Elevated prices hurt both. 


xbox one was hurt by more than the price.

i think the main difference between now and the PS3 era is that it’s accepted that certain types of tech now cost more than £300: there wasn’t a mass market for £500-800 phones at the time, let alone smart watches, for example: your tech market was consoles, TVs, weird Hi-Fi.

 

we probably also have to accept that regardless of what we think things should cost, the pound is now shit. look at the price of entry level MacBooks...

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4 minutes ago, englishbob said:

Sorry if already posted, but all the emails and tweets from Sony point towards some website, which is a bit useless if you don't plan on using a PC etc.

 

Seems that it will end up directing you to YouTube anyway, I can't think of another service that could handle the load to be honest. I'll be watching from the PS4 app I think!

 

 

 

Cheers this is what I've been looking for

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1 minute ago, jonamok said:

But I’ll certainly settle for an hour+ of next-gen gaming and some smutty hardware talk.

Absolutely!

 

On the prices maybe someone could organise sweepstake on price guesses. Closest to the nearest £ for both consoles wins (or shares winnings) :D

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2 minutes ago, teddymeow said:

Re: price.

 

At the end of the day Sony'll wait for Microsoft. Microsoft will wait for Sony.

 

Neither will ever see release due to the stalemate.

 

See you for the launch of PS6! :lol:

Indeed and the one that has a higher price will soon drop to match to the competition! Win/Win.

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I'm hoping they launch at a none ridiculous price but even if it's an eye-watering £599 I'll end up being there day one. But then I'm a dick with a £1000+ phone.

 

As much as I'll be chuffed at HZD2 being shown, seeing as the first is only bettered by Bloodborne on PS4 for me, it's Ridge Racer that would literally blow my mind. I was only playing Rage Racer last night and thinking how much I really want a new game in the series.

 

Bring it.

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I think both companies felt that they had more room to move on price this time out, as a big part of their strategy will be to push their respective cloud services, so anybody can have the next gen experience (over the cloud) for a monthly sub rather than having to find a large up front payment. This means that out of the gate, they've got a cheap option for the mass market, so they are comfortable letting their core audiences shoulder a higher than usual cost, in exchange for delivering a more powerful console.

 

I think both consoles will be €499. Based on what we know so far, I think it's clear that Xbox will be the more expensive console to assemble, but nearly every dev questioned about the PS5 has insinuated that Sony haven't shown their full hand yet, which makes me think that they've either got some sort of custom chips in there which will close the power delta or they've got some sort of gimmick / feature which will ramp the cost up a bit.

 

Microsoft have $137 billion dollars of cash to hand and Sony have $27, so both companies can afford to subsidise the hardware. If they each shouldered $200 for the first 10 million consoles, then they're down $2 billion, which I think they'd do to grab market share. I mean MS could literally afford to give away their first ten million consoles and they'd barely feel it, so obviously there is a limit to how far companies will go.

Anyhoo, whilst I'm rambling, one thing I've been considering is that we're all so focussed on Sony and MS competing with each other, but I do wonder if Sony will throw a curveball and do something to compete with Nintendo. Obviously they won't be bolting two handles and a battery pack the size of a fridge to the PS5, but I wouldn't be surprised if they had some sort of dedicated device in the works for remote play. They are effectively out of the handheld industry nowadays and given the huge success of the Switch and the Japanese preference for handheld gaming, I do wonder if they'll have some sort of offering for that market.

Anyhoo, popcorn ready, enjoy the show folks. :)

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Dirty Harry Potter

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Surely they have to annouce the price soon, as retailers will want to be getting their shit together for preorders? I can definitely see these at £500+ As they seem like very powerful systems even compared to a fully fledged PC.

 

i don’t think these will be marketed as mass consumption devices - more like an iPhone X.. luxury products than will cost a premium. They have the still very relevant Xbox one and PS4 for the mass market atleast for a few years yet.

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1 hour ago, SF-02 said:

Thing I've learned about rllmuk and numerous threads about prices is many posters are in the middle to top income brackets and overstimate what the mass market will pay. I remember it with PS3 and Xbox one. Elevated prices hurt both. 

 

Theres a lot of loaded people here. 

 

Have you seen that watch thread?  Fuck me!

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