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I love the FH games but not going to try to persuade anyone to like them. 

 

I agree 100% with everything that's been said about Wreckfest. One of the best arcade racers I've ever played. The absolute carnage is just amazing. 

 

It's not really an arcade racer (probably arcade sim?) but GRID is worth a play. Also Project Cars 3 got slated for being too arcadey by long term fans but I loved it. Its a great arcade sim. 

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39 minutes ago, Mr C said:

It's not really an arcade racer (probably arcade sim?) but GRID is worth a play. Also Project Cars 3 got slated for being too arcadey by long term fans but I loved it. Its a great arcade sim. 

 

Should have gone for Project Carcade as a name :P 

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2 hours ago, Mr C said:

I love the FH games but not going to try to persuade anyone to like them. 

They were great and still are. But. After a few of them... Just wish they'd spruce things up a bit* . Mexico whilst interesting feels very similar to Australia for some reason... 

 

My favourite one is still 2 on Xbox One. Those azure blue sky and the location.. wow... Still looks good today... but its age is showing a bit in that its only 30fps. Oh and I can't play it because it never made it to the PC (days before play anywhere and gamepass).

 

*I'm still salty because they didn't do Japan... :D 

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17 hours ago, MattyP said:

They were great and still are. But. After a few of them... Just wish they'd spruce things up a bit* . Mexico whilst interesting feels very similar to Australia for some reason... 

 

My favourite one is still 2 on Xbox One. Those azure blue sky and the location.. wow... Still looks good today... but its age is showing a bit in that its only 30fps. Oh and I can't play it because it never made it to the PC (days before play anywhere and gamepass).

 

*I'm still salty because they didn't do Japan... :D 

I just cannot stand this festival social influencer vibe that is ruining the entire experience for me. Even GTA had a better car fanatic vibe going on than the cheesy US EDM hipster festival vibe that Horizon has been doing for 3 iterations now. A Fast & Furious car tuning theme would be more fun (or better: a Japan setting with it's car tuning scene and none of that hipster stuff). 

 

Secondly it's like the Uncharted for race games... scripted scenes with rubber banding (decelerate while you're in a scripted scene and the AI will do the same so you stay close enough) that is also ruining the fun. If Forza Motorsport does the same I am done with the series for good. We will find out soon enough I think. 

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35 minutes ago, MNFRMTMRRW said:

I just cannot stand this festival social influencer vibe that is ruining the entire experience for me. Even GTA had a better car fanatic vibe going on than the cheesy US EDM hipster festival vibe that Horizon has been doing for 3 iterations now. A Fast & Furious car tuning theme would be more fun (or better: a Japan setting with it's car tuning scene and none of that hipster stuff). 

 

Secondly it's like the Uncharted for race games... scripted scenes with rubber banding (decelerate while you're in a scripted scene and the AI will do the same so you stay close enough) that is also ruining the fun. If Forza Motorsport does the same I am done with the series for good. We will find out soon enough I think. 

It's been very quiet on the Forza Motorsport front for a while now... Hopefully we'll have some news at the non E3 thing. With an Autumn release hopefully!

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On 07/06/2022 at 07:34, PikaStu said:

The Outrun 2 arcade releases run incredibly well with Teknoparrot on PC. IMO better than the native PC version. I had it running on a Q6600 and ancient NVidia 9600GT at native resolution.

 

Is this easy to sort out? As the PC port is missing some stuff that was in the original Arcade version. The Japanese PS2 release is the most content complete official version as it came out way later than the Western versions.

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9 minutes ago, mushashi said:

 

Is this easy to sort out? As the PC port is missing some stuff that was in the original Arcade version. The Japanese PS2 release is the most content complete official version as it came out way later than the Western versions.

 

My local Surugaya has one - priced at ¥32,000.  Glad I got one back in the day.

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10 hours ago, mushashi said:

 

Is this easy to sort out? As the PC port is missing some stuff that was in the original Arcade version. The Japanese PS2 release is the most content complete official version as it came out way later than the Western versions.

Yeah pretty easy. Loads of guides to get tecknoparrot up and running. Also there is a patch for it that I think makes it 60fps

 

Think there is a post in retro about it 

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Split Second was recently on sale on the Xbox Store for a couple of quid. No resolution bump for Series X, but it runs smoothly and it’s a lot of fun! Reminds me of the third Motorstorm game with all the destruction going on!

 

I picked up Driveclub yesterday for £4. None of the online stuff works anymore, but the campaign is still fine and it’s a beautiful looking game. I’m playing on PS4 Pro, I think it’s still running at 1080p but it’s super smooth* and still incredibly pretty. The diversity of locations and point to point / circuit racing is great, a Canadian location near the start reminded me of Need For Speed 3DO. I wish they’re remake those tracks in a game 😢

 

*edit - reading up on it, the game never got a frame rate upgrade for Pro, so it’s still locked at 30fps. I know my eyes are old and broken but I’m genuinely surprised it’s running at 30fps?! It feels super smooth and responsive!

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Been hoovering up 3DS games on my CFW 2DS XL, and there are 3 great games on there that deserve a look.

 

80's overdrive is daft fun

Out Run 3D is perfect, but also on other systems

Ridge Racer 3D. While RR2 on the PSP is the ultimate portable RR, this is pretty good.

 

1 hour ago, PikaStu said:

Split Second was recently on sale on the Xbox Store for a couple of quid. No resolution bump for Series X, but it runs smoothly and it’s a lot of fun! Reminds me of the third Motorstorm game with all the destruction going on!

Got this on my PS3 which I reclaimed from my teenage boys. Fun game. With RR7, so happy to have the PS3 back

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5 minutes ago, bradigor said:

Split/Second and BLUR were wonderful and complimented each other so well 

 

I've got Split Second on my Series X and it's bloody awesome!!

I'd love for some Blur backwards compatibility - preferably with frame rate boost! 

 

Is there a slim chance it will happen with the proposed MS / Acti merger?

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what really is surprising me with old PS2 & Gamecube racers is how well they hold up in terms of handling and feel.

 

sure current games look better overall but I honestly think the handling in a lot of them has gone backwards

 

ATV Fury on PS2 has a lovely loose offroad feel to it, as does EA's Shox and the old Burnout games around this time remain far better than the latest Criterion Hot Pursuit remaster.

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1 hour ago, Gotters said:

what really is surprising me with old PS2 & Gamecube racers is how well they hold up in terms of handling and feel.

 

sure current games look better overall but I honestly think the handling in a lot of them has gone backwards

 

ATV Fury on PS2 has a lovely loose offroad feel to it, as does EA's Shox and the old Burnout games around this time remain far better than the latest Criterion Hot Pursuit remaster.

 

It's a product of the move to sim racers. The arcade racer has been largely ignored in recent generations when it used to be the king

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I remember Shox being the most Sega Rally thing I could find when I didnt have a console that could play Sega Rally.  

 

I bumped the Burnout Revenge thread earlier because I picked it up on 360 and was initially disappointed that it didn't support frameboost. Then I see it runs at 60fps anyway, and looks superb.  It's a bit too fast, and gameplay involves luck as much as skill but it's great fun.

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On 06/11/2022 at 17:08, dumpster said:

I remember Shox being the most Sega Rally thing I could find when I didnt have a console that could play Sega Rally.  

 

I bumped the Burnout Revenge thread earlier because I picked it up on 360 and was initially disappointed that it didn't support frameboost. Then I see it runs at 60fps anyway, and looks superb.  It's a bit too fast, and gameplay involves luck as much as skill but it's great fun.


Cheers for posting this. Didn’t realise you could get Burnout Revenge on the store. I’m a big fan of Burnout 2 so bought it, as I’ve never played Revenge. Stuck it on to see what it looks like running on the Series S (really nice) and ended up playing it for about 3hrs straight. 😂  Quality game!

 

Then discovered SSX3 is on the store too. So bought that and totally blown away by how good it looks. Its an original Xbox game! Yet it looks amazing. It’s like finally having a new decent SSX game! Will be absolutely rinsing these two. 😁

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5 hours ago, CrichStand said:

So bought that and totally blown away by how good it looks. Its an original Xbox game! Yet it looks amazing. It’s like finally having a new decent SSX game! Will be absolutely rinsing these two. 😁

It's amazing to me what a difference you see.  Like you say SSX is a OG Xbox game yet it looks great.  And with Burnout your memory plays tricks.  I was so hopeful that it would run at 60fps on Xbox Series, having completely forgotten that it ran at 60fps all along.  I'd imagine if they remastered Burnout Revenge for new gen consoles it would have needlessly detailed graphics and a performance/quality switch and a 30fps frame rate.  

 

If you get the chance try the PsP emulators for Xbox, there's a thread in Retro on how to do it on an unmodded retail console.  Ridge Racers on PSP runs at 60fps anyway and was a little handheld marvel.  Emulate on Xbox and you can up the resolution to 4K and it looks so crisp and clear it's a revelation.  

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Has anyone played that newish flatout/wreckfest inspired game. I totally forgot the name of it (watched a video about it sometime ago and just remembered it) There's a ton of destruction in it. Looked really fun. 

 

It's PC only. Wonder how it performs on steam deck. 

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41 minutes ago, dumpster said:

It's amazing to me what a difference you see.  Like you say SSX is a OG Xbox game yet it looks great.  And with Burnout your memory plays tricks.  I was so hopeful that it would run at 60fps on Xbox Series, having completely forgotten that it ran at 60fps all along.  I'd imagine if they remastered Burnout Revenge for new gen consoles it would have needlessly detailed graphics and a performance/quality switch and a 30fps frame rate.  

 

If you get the chance try the PsP emulators for Xbox, there's a thread in Retro on how to do it on an unmodded retail console.  Ridge Racers on PSP runs at 60fps anyway and was a little handheld marvel.  Emulate on Xbox and you can up the resolution to 4K and it looks so crisp and clear it's a revelation.  


Funny you should say that, ‘cause I did the exact same thing with SSX!  Was convinced it ran at 30fps on the original Xbox. Seems like it was 60fps all along. Really does look amazing, wouldn’t think it was an og Xbox game at all. Who needs a remake when old games can look this good?!?!? Does Split/Second run at 60fps on S/X. Remember that being 30fps. 
 

Interesting to see how the gameplay has changed in titles, even from just a few gens ago. I mean both Burnout and SSX are unforgiving and right from the off offer a challenge, which is lost with many games these days. And the other thing is - they’re fun! Even when you’re messing up and failing beating scores/times, you still want to keep playing, because the basic mechanics are so good. One of the fairly early tracks on Revenge has big sweeping bends. Drifting around them perfectly felt amazing, brought back memories of Outrun Coast to Coast. 😁 Same with SSX just carving and boosting down the mountain and making huge impossible jumps feels quality. Proper arcade/action style gameplay and all the better for it! Now got my eye on a few old games but will wait for them to hit the sales. The Tomb Raider stuff on there will be fun to go back to.

 

Will definitely check the emulator stuff out at some point, it sounds great, especially 4K Ridge Racer. Man, get the old Sega arcade stuff on there and I’d be in gaming heaven! Was thinking of using the Series S just for emulation at some point, maybe if there’s a mid gen refresh.
 

 

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8 hours ago, Ry said:

Has anyone played that newish flatout/wreckfest inspired game. I totally forgot the name of it (watched a video about it sometime ago and just remembered it) There's a ton of destruction in it. Looked really fun. 

 

It's PC only. Wonder how it performs on steam deck. 

 

looking at steam games with same tags as Wreckfest I think you are talking about Trail Out, which apparently runs like arse.

 

https://www.protondb.com/app/1664220

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