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I agree with the rest of what you say, but I'm not sure Star Wars was low budget. It didn't cost much less than that year's Bond film, and $11m was a pretty significant amount for a film in 1977.

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3 minutes ago, Festoon said:

 

Who have absolutely no idea what they want. They similtaneously want everything like the originals, but if you reskinned the originals they'd go fucking mad.

Nothing will ever please them, no one 'gets' Star Wars like them, they don't know what they want.


This. This in its entirety. 

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1 minute ago, Festoon said:

 

Who have absolutely no idea what they want. They similtaneously want everything like the originals, but if you reskinned the originals they'd go fucking mad.

Nothing will ever please them, no one 'gets' Star Wars like them, they don't know what they want.

Who are these people though? You seem to know them pretty well. They seem like a made up demographic to me, just so the failures of this trilogy can be blamed on something other than it being a poor story, badly told, using directors that wanted to take things in polar opposite directions, which has quite rightly left a lot of people unimpressed.

 

We’re living in a world where anybody can get their opinion across to thousands of people instantly, so maybe if they had a better plan from the off, there wouldn’t have been so many negative voices. The Marvel stuff hasn’t had the same level of criticism and I think that’s because it’s been handled a lot better.

 

I’d just be happy if they got a solid plan in place before having another go, rather than going in all guns blazing without a clear direction.

 

It’s not the end of the world though, it’s only a few films and it won’t be long before they get it back on track.

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On 30/10/2019 at 07:59, Dirty Harry Potter said:

And I think B and W’s actions are revealing. They seem to have been pretty unscrupulous about moving to the next biggest pay check without much loyalty. At least thats how it appears.

 


Loyalty to who?

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1 hour ago, JPL said:

Who are these people though? You seem to know them pretty well. They seem like a made up demographic to me, just so the failures of this trilogy can be blamed on something other than it being a poor story, badly told, using directors that wanted to take things in polar opposite directions, which has quite rightly left a lot of people unimpressed.

 

We’re living in a world where anybody can get their opinion across to thousands of people instantly, so maybe if they had a better plan from the off, there wouldn’t have been so many negative voices. The Marvel stuff hasn’t had the same level of criticism and I think that’s because it’s been handled a lot better.

 

I’d just be happy if they got a solid plan in place before having another go, rather than going in all guns blazing without a clear direction.

 

It’s not the end of the world though, it’s only a few films and it won’t be long before they get it back on track.

 

It was a really strange approach to making the final trilogy in such a high profile series of films.  The Force Awakens was great, and seemed to be setting up a fairly derivative but ultimately fun trilogy of knockabout space adventure films.  The Last Jedi was also great, but it was the equivalent of No Country For Old Jedis; it challenged the tropes of a derivative-but-fun knockabout space adventure saga rather than continuing it, and doesn't really seem to leave anything particularly exciting to resolve in a third film, which is being made by the derivative knockabout crew again.

 

They should have asked Abrams & Kasdan to write a fun trilogy to finish off the Skywalker story, and given Johnson his own trilogy to tell an interesting story against the backdrop of the Star Wars universe. As a result of the approach they've taken it doesn't seem like we're going to get either, which is a real shame.

 

 

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They shouldn't let Abrams write anything but let him direct. 

 

It's going to be interesting to see what the mandalorian ends up being, it doesn't look quite as fan service-y as it could be but I still think it will probably be more a fun romp than a heady look at the bounty hunting in SW. 

 

Not having a fixed trilogy or even general story beats (from what we understand) was incredibly stupid but I also think that even though force awakens was fun and worked to remind people that star wars can be fun and not all about trade routes and the hatred of sand. Despite that, I think some of the way that was set up with the mystery box type stuff ended up being a millstone. 

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Saw the RoS teaser on an IMAX screen the other day and got my first proper pang of excitement, having been underwhelmed by TLJ.

 

I’m curious about how they’ll navigate out of the cul-de-sac that was Episode VIII’s ending, and whether there will be much invention or just mostly playing it safe.

 

To be honest, I’m fine with whatever. Visually it will be a treat, hopefully there will be a few surprises and the end can’t help but be emotional one way or another given the attachment so many of us have.

 

Favourite Star Wars-related memory is diligently booking tickets for me and my dad for the late 90s re-releases of A New Hope, Empire and RotJ. Us venturing up to Leicester Square for each of them like two big kids jabbering away about our favourite bits is still a fond memory. He passed away a fair while ago, so never saw episode seven onwards but even so I’ll miss him being there to see the conclusion of this saga, whatever it might be.

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Saw a delightfully barking theory earlier: “WHAT IF RotS ends with Palpatine knocking Rey up and wipes her memory and sends her back through time and *she’s* Anakin’s mother. It would tie everything together!”

 

Like, yeah, sure kid. As if JJ would ever be so- 

 

*suddenly remembers the endings to Alias and Felicity*

 

Oh shit.

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The next Star Wars movie will be released in 2022.

 

https://au.ign.com/articles/2019/11/21/star-wars-movie-due-out-in-2022-has-reportedly-found-its-director?

 

Here's what we know so far.

Spoiler alert: It's not Rian Johnson.

 

Also

 

With Kennedy's contract with Lucasfilm up in 2021, a year before the next planned Star Wars movie, it is uncertain what the future holds for both her and the franchise, as she recently opened up about the "incredible challenge" of detaching from the Skywalker saga for the next instalment.

 

I think we can declare it officially cancelled now.

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Rian was never coming back after the TLJ backlash.. whether he knew it or not. He was either in-denial or enjoying trolling the people that hated his film.
I suspect the latter.

 

I quite like the Rey and Ren scenes, but those aside, I really don't think he did anything especially original with the film, or even made it very surprising. His remit seemed to be anti-drama, which is about the least satisfying way you could approach a space opera imo. So I, for one I'm pleased he is no longer part of the plan.

 

 

 

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9 hours ago, Dirty Harry Potter said:

Rian was never coming back after the TLJ backlash.. whether he knew it or not. He was either in-denial or enjoying trolling the people that hated his film.
I suspect the latter.

 

I quite like the Rey and Ren scenes, but those aside, I really don't think he did anything especially original with the film, or even made it very surprising. His remit seemed to be anti-drama, which is about the least satisfying way you could approach a space opera imo. So I, for one I'm pleased he is no longer part of the plan.

 

 

 

 

Oh, I dunno. Having Super Leia flying around the place and killing Liberace Sith in the early stages of the film were slightly unexpected.

 

 

 

 

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I watched it again last night and really enjoyed it - I was grimly steeled for the misplaced humour at the start, the way the pivotal character from the series is needlessly castaway as a needless castaway, the way they’d ruined the timeless design of the walkers turning them into knuckle dragging apes, the way the new series bad guy is needlessly dispatched in a filmic tablecloth pull. Only seriously underwhelming as nobody had managed to put anything on top of the tablecloth for two films. 
Yet despite itself, like a flotilla of futuristic spaceships running out of fuel before the next services, it coasted out of the hyperspace fast lane into an enjoyable watch. I’ve said wrongly before I didn’t really care about Kylo Ren and Rey’s fate but I do think Adam Driver was the best thing in this.

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2 hours ago, JoeK said:

 

Oh, I dunno. Having Super Leia flying around the place and killing Liberace Sith in the early stages of the film were slightly unexpected.

 

 

 

 

 

I'm pretty sure the most popular pre-TLJ fan theory was that that the first thing Luke would do in the film was hoy his lightsaber off a cliff and tell Rey to fuck off.

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And to put this to bed...

 

https://au.ign.com/articles/2019/11/22/jj-abrams-reacts-to-the-last-jedis-shocking-twists?

 

n the lead up to Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker, returning director JJ Abrams has revealed how he reacted to the big twists in Rian Johnson’s The Last Jedi, namely the abrupt death of Supreme Leader Snoke and Luke Skywalker’s dark revelation, and whether those surprises affected his plan for the Sequel Trilogy.

 

That this sort of interview is out there pretty much all but confirms that Rian's involvement has ended.

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