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Mercedes explained after the race that Lewis was due to pit before Bottas for softs to the end but Bottas reported a strange noise so they looked into that and brought his pit stop forward and when all clear went back to Lewis for the pit stop not accounting for all the laps he had done - his call but talked with his main main and he was given everything for the last lap. Bottas had no choice, he did the one fast lap he could on the softs and it wasn’t good enough - no tyres for another go on last lap.

 

Plus Lewis is different class esp here.

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13 minutes ago, marsh said:

I think it's fantastic that a genuine enthusiast got the nod to go and get right in the guts of the event. More than deserved. I say that as when I went many moons ago, I witnessed a vast number of people there who hadn't got a fucking clue what was going on, why they were there, and a large number of girlfriends/wives facing away from the track reading books or copies of Ok. It baffled me why people would shell out to be there.........but then of course it's just to be able to say 'I was there'

 

And to top it all off you gave Davidson a schooling, just a good job it wasn't Bathurst eh?  :ph34r:

 

:hat:

 

I'd say 95% of everyone there was on the blag, I doubt many pay for it. The group I joined was about 30 and all of them were either influencers or decision makers for IT storage solutions. But of course going to a party like this doesn't influence decision making oh no... The good news for me was there was a good 10 or so of us who were into F1 and acted like kids that had too much tartrazine. It would have taken the edge off for sure if no one I was with gave a shit.

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4 hours ago, Bacon Horsemeat said:

That look from Davidson... is the look of love :wub:

 

That's the look of someone that can't quite fathom how he just got owned by a guest. I'd have planted a big fucking L on my forehead if he so much as glanced in my general direction.

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On 14/07/2019 at 23:09, Pug said:

Was Googling for any pics of the old jacket and found that you can buy a replica!

Not getting one as I wouldn't wear it but:

 

Screenshot 2019-07-14 at 22.06.37.png

 

Just ordered. 160 pounds in total (off a German Lotus specialist as the original shop didn't offer an M-sized any more) but just couldn't resist. Hope it delivers!

 

On 15/07/2019 at 08:50, DriveBy said:

The lotus 79 segment was pretty good, I haven't seen any top gear since it exploded - has it been this interesting all season?

 

That Lotus item was just amazing, goose bumps all over - like that Senna piece 10 years ago! 

 

This was the first time I watched Top Gear in two years surely. Really liked the Formula Offroad in Iceland report, too :)

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Or not, I can see the teams unable to come to an agreement.

 

Redbull would be my bet to get this right out of the box, I reckon Newey is just about old enough to have come into the business on the tail end of the last lot.

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I do like 25 years after literally everyone said "The way to let cars follow each other is ground effect and increased mechanical grip."  They've suddenly gone "Hey guys, we've got an idea!".

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The problem with ground effect, is that when the effect stops, you basically have a wing which tries to take off. Also, cars going round stowe and pulling fighter pilot levels of G.... not a good idea. 

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Yeah I always thought it was the safety aspect of downforce being dependent on ride height dynamics as well as speed, whereas with wings it’s basically only a function of speed and therefore much more predictable?

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Mansell talked about a great many things in that book, but failed completely to make any of them sound even remotely interesting. What a fucking boring man.

 

Indycar never binned off ground effect so I don't think it's as much of an issue as you make out, admittedly the speeds involved are quite different.... sometimes.

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1 hour ago, Sidewaysbob said:

The problem with ground effect, is that when the effect stops, you basically have a wing which tries to take off. Also, cars going round stowe and pulling fighter pilot levels of G.... not a good idea. 

 

I'm sure they can come up with something to mitigate the risk. Tech has moved on so much since then. 

 

 

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35 minutes ago, mexos said:

 

I'm sure they can come up with something to mitigate the risk. Tech has moved on so much since then. 

 

 

 

Just a bit, that bit on the Lotus 79 on Top Gear showed then taking two pins out to lower the skirts! 

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There'll be enough I am sure to ensure that it's safer mechanically than it used to be.

 

That said, ground effect is very much a pandora's box that'll need to be carefully controlled. Let designers loose with it and we'll very quickly end up at a point where drivers will need g-suits.

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43 minutes ago, kiroquai said:

That said, ground effect is very much a pandora's box that'll need to be carefully controlled. Let designers loose with it and we'll very quickly end up at a point where drivers will need g-suits.

I like where this is going... the sooner some WipEout anti grav racing series becomes a reality the better imo. 

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You have to watch it on the website but Jolyon Palmer's excellent post race analysis of the British GP includes all of the camera angles of Hamilton's pass on Bottas that the tv coverage should have used.

 

 

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2 hours ago, JohnC said:

Take the Lotus 79 skirts and have DRS like zones where they can be lowered :ph34r:

 

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Give this man a research budget! Great idea.  

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Ground affect is to make you go round corners fast, it makes no difference in a straight line. 

So I suppose your DRS idea would work if they swaped to corners not straight bits. But mmmh I'd be causes of cars going into corners with X times more downforce than the car in front, it's going to make braking distances disproportionate for the two cars. The one in front will have to  brake at some point and the ground affect car is just going to have to swerve out of the way. Add I  a third car to the train and things would get dicey. 

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3 hours ago, Sidewaysbob said:

Ground affect is to make you go round corners fast, it makes no difference in a straight line. 

So I suppose your DRS idea would work if they swaped to corners not straight bits. But mmmh I'd be causes of cars going into corners with X times more downforce than the car in front, it's going to make braking distances disproportionate for the two cars. The one in front will have to  brake at some point and the ground affect car is just going to have to swerve out of the way. Add I  a third car to the train and things would get dicey. 


Ground effect doesn’t rely on wings tho so you go faster by having less draggy wings, didn’t some show or youtube chap work out that the ‘79 could out grip a modern at the time F1 car (last few years)

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Yeah, the car is in effect an inverted wing that sucks the car onto the track, so the faster the car goes the more "suction" it generates. The key is to keep the sides of the car sealed. If you have a seal that only activated when you were behind another car coming into a nice long sweeping corner the grip level would shoot up and you could pass with ease. 

 

But flat bottom cars sort of ruin the effect, you need a rising tunnel to reduce the air pressure under the car. these days the rear diffuser "sucks" the air out to reduce the pressure and the wings help speed it up over the front wing and move it out of the way with the rear wing. Also the front wing moves the air around the wheels ( the largest drag point of any open wheeled car) then to the sideboards, where the air is formed into a curtain wall of slow moving air to seal the off the fast moving air unde the car. Its not as effective as a big sheet of aluminium, but it's not far off these days. the problem is, the air curtain wall disappears in slow corners. 

 

Back in the 90's the Ferrari allegedly had a bendy floor that flexed at the sides to effectively seal the car to the track and create ground effect. There was a reason schumacher would win races by a country mile. See also Vettels Redbull front wing that deflected at high speed for a number of years. 

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1 hour ago, ryodi said:

Shamelessly stolen from the Resetera F1 Thread

 

Lando and Max took part in an iRacing 24 Hour race on Twitch and had some banter at the end of the race.

 

 

 

:lol:

 

Max’s brake pedal falling off too!

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