The Boys - Amazon superhero show

[ZeroXAlpha]

Was excellent, changed a lot after episode 1, brought things in that were later in the comic and put it in season 1. Don’t know where it’s going to go next and if the other things still not revealed actually happen.

 

Only sad thing was the lack of Terror. Hopefully Butcher’s buddy makes an appearance next season.

[FishyFish]

Yep, loved that from start to finish. Gutted that it’s now a year until more is available.

[BruceBruce]

I like it so far.  Makes me wanna check out the comics.

 

I'm about halfway through.  I realize I told a friend of mine, who is a Christian, about how much I love this show.  So when he checks it out and sees that one episode, he's gonna call me a dick.

[footle]

1 hour ago, Zero9X said:

Was excellent, changed a lot after episode 1, brought things in that were later in the comic and put it in season 1. Don’t know where it’s going to go next and if the other things still not revealed actually happen.

 

Only sad thing was the lack of Terror. Hopefully Butcher’s buddy makes an appearance next season.

 

Isn’t terror in a flashback when he’s lying in bed?

(I’m rereading the comics at the same time, so my timeline is all confused)

[BruceBruce]

Speaking of the comics.. Humble Bundle has a bundle for Vol 1 through 12 of The Boys.

 

Ends in a little over 24 hours.

[Monkeyboy]

Like was said earlier in the thread though, if you’re really enjoying the show, I’d maybe advise against reading the comics. Mainly because of one twist in particular. Assuming they do it in the TV show, still entirely possible they will.

[jonamok]

That was great. One of the best streaming shows I’ve seen. Loved the ending.

[ZeroXAlpha]

12 hours ago, footle said:

 

Isn’t terror in a flashback when he’s lying in bed?

(I’m rereading the comics at the same time, so my timeline is all confused)

Yeah but only as a flashback sadly.

Want him to be one of the team like in the comics. 

[Anne Summers]

On 28/07/2019 at 11:51, DC said:

There is a Humble Bundle for £12 for digital copies of the full run. Might only have a day left to claim it now.

I am guessing the answer to this is "no" - but if I buy those, can I read them in guided reading mode (the way you can on Kindle/ Comixology) or are they just in a pdf/cbf format ?

[Garibaldi]

The Breaking Bad reference from Giancarlo Esposito’s character made me chuckle. 

 

When he mentioned his planned retirement to Belize.

 

[DC]

51 minutes ago, Anne Summers said:

I am guessing the answer to this is "no" - but if I buy those, can I read them in guided reading mode (the way you can on Kindle/ Comixology) or are they just in a pdf/cbf format ?

PDF, CBZ and EPUB are the formats. I don’t know what guided reading mode is, sorry. This page might help though:

 

https://support.humblebundle.com/hc/en-us/articles/202844690

[Anne Summers]

Just now, DC said:

PDF, CBZ and EPUB are the formats. I don’t know what guided reading mode is, sorry. This page might help though:

 

https://support.humblebundle.com/hc/en-us/articles/202844690

Thanks - guided reading mode is the thing Amazon/Comixology does where it shows one panel on the screen at a time - it makes most comics really convenient to read on a phone (which is what I do most of my reading on these days). The downside is that obviously it only works with files that have been formatted for use with it. 

[Radish]

Holy shit, this is good. It dips a little around episodes 4 and 5 but then picks up again. 

 

Now I’ve finished season 1, am I ok to read the comics? I read something earlier about avoiding a twist but I wasn’t sure if the advice was to watch the season first or read the comics first. 

 

On 28/07/2019 at 11:30, DeciderVT said:

I disliked the ending.

 

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Depicting what was a very violent birth scene a few episodes beforehand felt like complete misdirection with hindsight, particularly as the narration is describing Becca's "death" at the same time.

 

By all means have the ending of Becca and the child surviving in secret but perhaps don't show us an actual scene of the baby ripping through her body and blood flooding the floor if you're going to contradict it a few episodes later.

 

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I think the point there is that the doctor is an unreliable narrator. The scene showed what he said happened, not what actually happened (which we found out was a lie when Stillwell told Homelander that she died due to a miscarriage - not quite what the Doctor said). With that in mind, the contradiction makes perfect sense.

 

[DeciderVT]

16 minutes ago, Radish said:

Holy shit, this is good. It dips a little around episodes 4 and 5 but then picks up again. 

 

Now I’ve finished season 1, am I ok to read the comics? I read something earlier about avoiding a twist but I wasn’t sure if the advice was to watch the season first or read the comics first. 

 

 

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I think the point there is that the doctor is an unreliable narrator. The scene showed what he said happened, not what actually happened (which we found out was a lie when Stillwell told Homelander that she died due to a miscarriage - not quite what the Doctor said). With that in mind, the contradiction makes perfect sense.

 

 

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The unreliable narrator angle is fine but accompanying it with such a graphic scene was a fairly strong bit of misdirection. There was nothing to suggest it wasn't the truth until a passing comment later on, as you say.

 

I stand by the idea that including the scene itself was unnecessarily deceptive and the ending felt like a bit of a cop-out. Luckily it doesn't spoil the series much.

 

[footle]

I genuinely don’t think reading the comics is going to matter. The story is basically entirely different give or take some characters having the same roles.

 

An example, for the second issue of the comic (or at least the first arc), about the female. You’re not really spoiling anything at all by reading it.

Her entire storyline in the show is  not in the comics. She’s just a mob killer, as far as I can recall.

[Scruff]

No, the ending of the comics reveals a massive humdinger that will ruin the TV show, if they follow it.

 

I'd say it's safe to read 80% of the comics but the final arc is best avoided.

[Radish]

I actually think her story was the weakest point of the series, so that doesn't sound like a bad thing really.

 

Ah, that was it then Scruff - thanks. Will it just ruin the TV show in the same way that reading the book/comic before watching any TV series/film would ruin the story, or is there more to it?

[footle]

1 hour ago, Scruff said:

No, the ending of the comics reveals a massive humdinger that will ruin the TV show, if they follow it.

 

Have now finished the series. Given that it's more "inspired by" the comics, I don't think I'd spend a lot of time worrying about it. There's more divergence between this and the comics than there is between Infinity War and the relevant comics (and there they changed Thanos' entire motivation, scrapped some weird cosmic council etc.).

[gizmo1990]

Blimey, what an absolutely cracking show. Loved absolutely every minute of it. It was so fucking lean, extremely well done. Hope it starts getting the attention it deserves. Oh and wow, Homelander! What a fucking brilliant character and portrayal!

[cassidy]

Well after finishing that I’m gonna say something I rarely get to say. Now that far surpassed the source material.

 

I have never hated on the comic but it’s excesses did get grating somewhere in the middle of its run. 

 

But the TV show, after that last episode, just superb. This being a standout slice of comic book tv was as unexpected as Doom Patrol being amazing. 

 

 

 

[Orion]

Enjoyed this quite alot. Elizabeth Shue was fantastic as was Antony Starr as Homelander. I thought they both carried the whole show at times.

 

The Boys themselves were abit weak though. Urban is alright, if you just pretend his character is from New Zealand and ignore the accent and Hughie was ok. The other three weren't given much. They never really feel like much of a team either. In the comics they felt like a tight knit crew.

[Timbuktu]

Overall pretty good, but I thought the last couple of episodes were rushed and probably a twist too many for the season.  For the plot they wanted to do, they could have done with 10 or 12 episodes.  About the finale:

 

Butcher setting that bomb off at the end is a bit messed up.  He killed Teddy and possibly the nanny for no good reason.  I guess they needed a clean slate and draw a line with Stillwell.  The Becca storyline seems a bit too rushed, I guess it could have worked better in a 10 or 12 episode long season.  It just felt like a lot of exposition.  S1 focusing on the Compound V and the discovery that they are creating super villains to get the soups into the military would have been enough for me.  The other team members and the Hughie /Annie relationship could have done with more as well; I don't think she would have forgiven him yet even when she did the right thing and helped them.  The Becca revelation seems like something that would hit harder after another season, but I guess they want to signal a complete departure from the comics.

 

 

I guess A-Train survives?  Starlight won’t be outed that quickly as a traitor to the Seven in S2, so A-Train having a new dynamic with her would be interesting.  She saved his life perhaps and he's more of an ally perhaps.  I'm not sure about having all these redemption arcs for murderers and sexual predators though.  I don't really know where they are taking the Deep.

 

[HarryBizzle]

I’m five eps in and really enjoying it. Probably helps that I haven’t read the comic. 

 

The only thing more distracting than Urban’s accent is Maeve’s wig. I keep questioning if there’s a twist and she’s really bald or blonde or something. 

[teddymeow]

So, is Karl Urban angling for the part of Joel in a live action version of The Last of Us?

 

 

[NecroMorrius]

He's auditioning for the role of "Danny Dyer ASMR"

[HarryBizzle]

Just finished this and the ending did not disappoint. Man, Anthony Starr really is fantastic. Homelander is all over the place but he really makes it work, and he's not so scary that you're just terrified of him at all times.

 

Am I right in thinking this series deviates quite a lot from the books? I don't think I'm going to read them because I really like the twists and turns this takes. Hopefully if they do another season they keep it to 8-12 episodes and don't bloat it out.

 

 

On ‎30‎/‎07‎/‎2019 at 20:01, DeciderVT said:

 

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The unreliable narrator angle is fine but accompanying it with such a graphic scene was a fairly strong bit of misdirection. There was nothing to suggest it wasn't the truth until a passing comment later on, as you say.

 

I stand by the idea that including the scene itself was unnecessarily deceptive and the ending felt like a bit of a cop-out. Luckily it doesn't spoil the series much.

 

 

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Don't really see why this is an issue. Flashbacks for people's narratives aren't unusual. I think you just missed the tell where it is incredibly obvious that the stories don't add up because as soon as she says miscarriage they zoom in on Homelander and his expression changes completely.

 

[jonamok]

8 hours ago, HarryBizzle said:

Homelander is all over the place but he really makes it work, and he's not so scary that you're just terrified of him at all times.

 

Speak for yourself, I was bloody terrified of him the entire time. Creepy fucker with dead eyes, a rictus grin, a child’s temper and unlimited power. Shudder.

[HarryBizzle]

1 minute ago, jonamok said:

 

Speak for yourself, I was bloody terrified of him the entire time. Creepy fucker with dead eyes, a rictus grin, a child’s temper and unlimited power. Shudder.

 

Yeah, but he's also funny, charming (which he turns on and off brilliantly), weird as hell and sometimes you even feel genuinely sorry for him! So much fun to watch.

 

I think you could remove The Deep from the whole thing except episode 1 and the series wouldn't be any worse off. Also Annie is a bit all over the place and not written anywhere as well as the other "conflicted" characters.

[DeciderVT]

9 hours ago, HarryBizzle said:

Just finished this and the ending did not disappoint. Man, Anthony Starr really is fantastic. Homelander is all over the place but he really makes it work, and he's not so scary that you're just terrified of him at all times.

 

Am I right in thinking this series deviates quite a lot from the books? I don't think I'm going to read them because I really like the twists and turns this takes. Hopefully if they do another season they keep it to 8-12 episodes and don't bloat it out.

 

 

 

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Don't really see why this is an issue. Flashbacks for people's narratives aren't unusual. I think you just missed the tell where it is incredibly obvious that the stories don't add up because as soon as she says miscarriage they zoom in on Homelander and his expression changes completely.

 

I didn't, actually.

 

[HarryBizzle]

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Ok. Maybe I missed something but then I don't understand why you feel it was "contradicted" a few episodes later when it's fairly obvious that the story isn't true just one episode later.

 

The story seemed fishy from the off, as well. Super baby can claw it’s way out of its mum but drowns in blood in 10 seconds?