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Does anyone, get involved with youth sport?

 

I have just started coaching my son's football team after the previous coach stepped down (his kid went to a better team in a higher division) and am finding it very rewarding so far. 

 

I never got into it with Ice Hockey as I cannot skate, so wouldn't be much help on the ice, but can help out here. 

 

I am dealing with an U12s team, so emotions are all over the place at times, even in the 3 short weeks I have been with them. 

 

I can't be the only one stupid enough to get involved at this level, so share your stories. 

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My son plays in the local youth team. I'd never ever coach them, but admire everyone who does. Our coaches do a great job, are motivated but don't really get anything but stick for whatever they do and. In general, most parents are total arseholes, unfortunately. :mellow:

 

 

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The above is exactly why I avoided football with my son. 6 or 7 years ago I refereed my nephew's home matches for a few months and had enough of parents or coaches giving me grief. I also witnessed it as a spectator watching another nephew regularly.

 

My son is a rugby player now, he is an under 9 so it's his first year of tackling. I've stepped in a few times to help when the coaches need and because rugby is slowly introduced I can just about get away with it. I have no idea how to follow a full game.

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Yeah, only reason I stepped up was it was me or potentially no team. I have always been of the opinion that as a parent you let the coaches, coach and the officials, officiate. 

 

So far the parents have been decent enough, but will be interested to see how that continues. We lost my first game 10-2, I hadn't had any time with them before the the game due to the Christmas break, but we won today against the third place team 3-2 (we are second bottom) and I had the kids passing, moving, pressing and they seemed really invested in listening to what I was telling them, 

 

I am sure it will all turn sour at some point, but so far it has been pretty enjoyable working with the kids. 

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3 hours ago, bradigor said:

Does anyone, get involved with youth sport?

 

I have just started coaching my son's football team after the previous coach stepped down (his kid went to a better team in a higher division) and am finding it very rewarding so far. 

 

I never got into it with Ice Hockey as I cannot skate, so wouldn't be much help on the ice, but can help out here. 

 

I am dealing with an U12s team, so emotions are all over the place at times, even in the 3 short weeks I have been with them. 

 

I can't be the only one stupid enough to get involved at this level, so share your stories. 

 

I've coached my son's age group (now U10s) for our local football club (Ilkley Town AFC) for the last 4-5 yrs, and also manage the team he plays in. We have almost 40 kids in the year group with a massive range of abilities so it can be challenging at times (mainly with my own child tbf) but I love doing it. We have 3 teams playing in competitive leagues where we stream by ability but when we're training we mix everyone in together.

 

Generally all of our parents are sound and as we've been doing it for a few years now I consider most of them as friends so we can speak freely to them but we don't tend to have any issues, but my son's team play in the top division in their league so we have come up against some very competitive sides. One in particular I ended up reporting to the league and the County FA due to the behaviour of the coach and parents, who were treating the game like an adult Sunday league affair. Luckily that's been an exception though.

 

Are you just looking after his team for their matches or are you getting involved with the overall training too? If you are I can highly recommend putting yourself through the FA's level 1 course, it'll give you a really useful framework to build your coaching around. If the club you're with is an FA charter standard club they should be willing to pay for you to do the course. 

 

Happy to answer any questions or offer any tips if you think I could help. 

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Appreciate that thanks. My son's team are in the bottom division of their league and the bottom team of the overall club (we have 5 teams at U12). So the pressure is off to a degree, however we also come up against other teams and parents who take it very seriously. 

 

Was nice to speak to the opposition coach after the game today and he praised the spirit we played the game in and that I was just full of encouragement for my team, but also that I stopped them laughing at his team for an own goal (it was a spectacular strike though to be fair). So that was nice to hear. 

 

Hardest thing so far is dealing with kids who don't quite get why they are being subbed and get upset. I kind of want to tell them to get a grip, but know at the same time, that would be pointless, especially at an age where the hormones are all over the place. 

 

This is the last season they play 9v9, next year being a full 11v11, so am trying to drill in to them, that results in the league* don't matter too much, I want them playing in the right way to prepare for next season. Start moving the ball with passes and using space, rather than kick and run and so far they are listening and trying, despite not executing properly. 

 

Out club manager will be putting me into the Level 1 course as soon as the next is available. So I am looking forward to that. 

 

Do you have any resources you use? Anything on YouTube worth following for notes on training drills?

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17 hours ago, bradigor said:

Appreciate that thanks. My son's team are in the bottom division of their league and the bottom team of the overall club (we have 5 teams at U12). So the pressure is off to a degree, however we also come up against other teams and parents who take it very seriously. 

 

Was nice to speak to the opposition coach after the game today and he praised the spirit we played the game in and that I was just full of encouragement for my team, but also that I stopped them laughing at his team for an own goal (it was a spectacular strike though to be fair). So that was nice to hear. 

 

Hardest thing so far is dealing with kids who don't quite get why they are being subbed and get upset. I kind of want to tell them to get a grip, but know at the same time, that would be pointless, especially at an age where the hormones are all over the place. 

 

This is the last season they play 9v9, next year being a full 11v11, so am trying to drill in to them, that results in the league* don't matter too much, I want them playing in the right way to prepare for next season. Start moving the ball with passes and using space, rather than kick and run and so far they are listening and trying, despite not executing properly. 

 

Out club manager will be putting me into the Level 1 course as soon as the next is available. So I am looking forward to that. 

 

Do you have any resources you use? Anything on YouTube worth following for notes on training drills?

 

Sounds like you're doing a lot of the right things already. Kids can be right little sh1ts so teaching them about respect and humility early on can go a long way. Building a rapport with the opposition coaches usually helps too as you'll probably find you're playing the same teams a few times each season, so if you can get on with them it'll help, especially if there's a bit of a mismatch in ability on the pitch.

 

For your match subs, we set up rotations to ensure that everybody gets the same amount of game time (or as close as possible to), although this only really works if you're dealing with kids that are all similar ability. If you're able to do that and explain it to them (showing our lot the spreadsheet I'd drawn up helped with this!), and they can see it happening over the course of a few games they should accept it.

 

For resources, the stuff you get with the FA level1 course is useful, although it tends to focus on individual drills and activities rather than teaching through matches. In our coaching group we tend to come up with a lot of stuff ourselves, and make sure we're picking up ideas from the age groups above us (and passing stuff onto those below us).

 

We had a mentor from the County FA with us for 6 months last season, which was great. He was saying their focus now is more on development through small-sided matches and thinking of ways to focus on particular aspects within a small-sided game, rather than isolated drills where you might just practise shooting or passing (which is what you get taught in the level 1!).

 

The general idea is to vary rules within a match setting, using something called the STEP principle, where you look to vary one or more of the Space, Task, Equipment or Players you're using to challenge them within the game.

 

So for example if you wanted to work on positional discipline split the pitch into three zones (defence/midfield/attack) and have players assigned to zones that they have to stay in (switching the players between different zones every 5mins). A good variation on this is to only enforce one team to stay in the zones and allow players on the other team to go where they like. They'll probably find the free roaming team all end up in the attacking zone and if the other team are able to get the ball they'll have players spread across the pitch they can press with. This can create overload situations in all areas of the pitch too, which is good for possession play.

 

For quick passing and play use either a 3-touch or 3 seconds with the ball rule and make the pitch smaller so there's less space.

 

If you wanted to focus on attacking support set the pitch into three zones again and have a rule where if a player dribbles the ball into the final third they cannot shoot, they have to pass first, which will get them thinking about passing the ball forward into the attacking zone instead and having the players without the ball making sure they come up the pitch to support the one with the ball.
 

For a possession game, set out uneven sides and make the team with more players have to complete 5-6 passes before they are allowed to shoot.

 

Doing it this way means you don't get the kids moaning because they're not playing a match too!

 

I can sit there all day and come up with stuff like the above, but the most important thing is to prepare what you're going to do *before* the session, so you're not having to think on your feet.

 

For more ideas we just tend to google for inspiration and then tweak depending on what we think our age group can cope with. There's a good resource here for example that you can get a lot of inspiration from: http://www.thefa.com/-/media/cfa/huntsfa/files/coaching/documents/fa-level-1-and-level-2-arrival-activities-and-game-related-practices.ashx (PDF download)

 

With our coaching setup we tend to run three different activities, split the kids into three groups of 8-10 and rotate them between each activity for 20min at a time so they don't get bored. This also makes it easier from a coach's point of view as you only need to come up with one activity and repeat it 3 times.

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It's hilarious and frustrating coaching kids I must say. 

 

Last night I worked on just quick passing and moving with them, teaching them how to make the ball do all the work. 3/4 of the session they are doing really well, performing the drills well, even doing better when I increase the difficulty. 

 

So we head to the final scrimmage game, where I set the rules....

 

No actual tackling, you can put pressure on, but you are trying to force a bad pass and an interception.

No running with the ball, it must be quick passing and moving. 

 

Got that?

 

Got it coach!

 

Start scrimmage and within 5 seconds player runs with the ball and another tackles him :lol: 

 

That being said, seeing them improve at the actual drills is really encouraging and personally very rewarding. 

 

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I think next week I am going to try a variant of a drill I've seen in my son's Ice Hockey training.

 

Start with a 6 v 2 scenario. The player with the ball cannot move, they can only pass. Everyone else must be moving at all time. Each time the ball is turned over, the attacking team player moves to the defending team. Until we are left 1 vs 7

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I bet Guardiola and Klopp never have this issue. 

 

I have a squad of 15 for my 9-a-side team and due to various reasons I am now down to 8 players for our cup match tomorrow. :lol: 

 

I already knew I had lost Lucas as he has an ice hockey game at the same time, which always takes priority, but then everyone else just seemed to drop like flies with various ailments and prior engagements. 

 

 

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We had our cup final today, against the best team in the league (they will win the league at a canter and we will finish 3rd from bottom - was bottom when I took over). Was a fantastic game overall and the outcome....

 

 

Spoiler

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I can't really tell but is that you @bradigor? I imagine it is, so well done.

 

My son's rugby season ends next weekend with a a tour. A whole bank holiday weekend spent with people I don't really know, should be great <_<

 

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Just now, Adrock said:

I can't really tell but is that you @bradigor? I imagine it is, so well done.

 

My son's rugby season ends next weekend with a a tour. A whole bank holiday weekend spent with people I don't really know, should be great <_<

 

 

Yeah the random tramp they let stand with the kids is me :lol: 

 

2-1 win with the winner coming in the last coupe of minutes. Felt amazing. 

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1 minute ago, Adrock said:

You look a bit different to your profile pic, I didn't want to be rude ;)

 

 

Ha, yeah One of the rare occasions I shaved. 

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Our season starts this weekend (well pre-season anyway). 

 

We step up to 11-a-side so hoping the preparation work I did with them last season comes good early. Lost a lot of players over the summer and some new faces in, but kept the core of my team which is really helpful. Not sure how well it will go, but looking forward to the adventure with the kids. 

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