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Good thinking, it could definitely be that all previous recycled prisoners were moved to new facilities since POB, but they messed up on this one and put him back in the same facility on a different level. Perhaps again because the prisons are understaffed and somewhat forgotten about, with underqualified men running them and relying on the reputation of Empire (and the electric floors, of course) to keep the peace. Hadn't thought about that. There's definitely some merit in the idea that the Empire is on the back foot producing materials for a war effort I think, having been so surprised by the attack on Aldhani and how it might convert dissenters into rebels. The show is all about the effects and limits of fascist systems, not to mention the difficulty groups have in agreeing on strategies to counter them. We all know where Mon Mothma ends up and how fruitless her above-board attempts to slow the rise of fascism end up to be. It's interesting to remember that Mon, Luthen and Saw are technically all on the same side of this brewing war, but vastly different in approach compared to the militaristic and ordered Empire.

 

The other thing is that now they've committed the heinous act of killing a bunch of prisoners to hide their mistake, they know the rest of the prisoners will find out eventually. It means that there's zero chance of anyone in that prison making it out alive, even if POB is relaxed or they're all given pardons, because they can announce the mistreatment of prisoners to the outside world. Hence the change in Kino, who understands this. The Empire is still operating under the guise of order and diplomacy, their darker moves are shrouded in secrecy (like carefully plotting to oust the indigenous farmers of Aldhani, or scuttling the ship they found and staging a dead pilot rather than simply blowing him out of the sky). They haven't embraced presenting as overtly fascist yet as it doesn't suit their needs. Which poses an interesting question - does the rebellion accelerate the adoption of outward/overt fascism from the Empire? Given their overreaction to Aldhani, that seems very likely, and some of the rebels are counting on it. Extremism breeding extremism on both sides, or at least normalising it in a never-ending cycle.

 

It's likely I'm reading and extrapolating too much from it, but it's great that I can do this with a Star Wars show. Obi Wan held about as much interest as an empty crisp packet.

 

Yeah, my take is the rebels

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can see that the empire's slow steady march for fascist control will become normalised and people won't realise until its to late.

 

The Adandi raid was an attempt to goad the Empire into more extreme measures so the people/senate realise thier true agenda.

 

 

 

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Hanzo the Razor

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On 07/11/2022 at 15:59, Alan Stock said:

On that subject, I know its supposed to be a serious matter, but like the Rings of Power - where's the funnies? Rogue One had some great bits of humour (mainly from aforementioned droid) but it didn't hurt the tone of the show, which maybe they are afraid of in this. I know there's stuff like cereal mum but its not quite the same as that dry sarcastic humour that can work so well. I'm not saying I need it, it works fine without, but maybe a little would help and make Andor himself seem a bit less of a sourpuss :P

 

House of the Dragon too. Are the show makers so afraid to offend... well anyone that they can't have any funny bits? We're rewatching GOT and there are scenes that have been ball bouncingly funny.

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Thank fuck some of the people in this thread weren't in the focus groups for this. 

 

"It's so boooooring, it needs more blaster battles!" has now been replaced with "where are the hilarious jokes and post-modern 4th wall breaking quips?!?"

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Its not what I'm saying at all, in fact in my post I specifically said I didn't think it needed it. But I think its still worthy of discussion just because of the trend with the shows mentioned above. An injection of even a little bit of humour is in every bit of Star Wars, even Rogue One. So I just think its interesting they dropped it altogether. Would it make the show better? Probably not. Would it upset the tone? If done well, probably not. For this show with the tone its going for, especially in the latest episodes, it would be hard to pull off. I just think its an interesting observation.

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Just watched E10.  It's incredibly impressive just how consistently good this is.

 

Yet another absolutely corking episode.

 

47 minutes ago, JohnC said:

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Kino’s “I can’t swim” 

 

 

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It's okay - we know he survives and becomes Snoke

 

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18 hours ago, cavalcade said:

Thank fuck some of the people in this thread weren't in the focus groups for this. 

 

"It's so boooooring, it needs more blaster battles!" has now been replaced with "where are the hilarious jokes and post-modern 4th wall breaking quips?!?

 

Great episode today, nice blaster battles! Back on form.

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Episode 10 is brilliant. I think I had goosebumps when...

 

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Luthen was talking about what he'd sacrificed. Skarsgård knocked it out of the park. It helped that he also looked pretty cool standing on that walkway with his long coat billowing in the wind.

 

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Yeah booooooooooi... Oh fuck it's over.

 

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It seemed to fly by this week, really missed those extra 5-10 minutes we've been getting here and there!

 

The prison break was fucking tense as hell and was an absolute barnstorming catharsis after the last two weeks.

 

But Kino! Fuuuck.

 

As for that Skarsgard scene at the end, fucking immense. The way it looked, the mood, everything.

 

Also Mon Mothma scene great as ever. Her quiet, shaking rage was terrifying.

 

I just drank it all up. I knew right from the opening title music that this one was going to be a lot more of an uplift - now that I've noticed they're doing it it's just going to make starting the next two all the sweeter.

 

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3 hours ago, Monkeyboy said:

Episode 10 is brilliant. I think I had goosebumps when...

 

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Luthen was talking about what he'd sacrificed. Skarsgård knocked it out of the park. It helped that he also looked pretty cool standing on that walkway with his long coat billowing in the wind.

 

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And the shape of the doors, the platform he was standing on, all perfect. So good. 

 

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