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I watched the whole thing - strangely watchable but I didn't laugh once* and found it utterly disposable. The poeple writing it and making it obviously know their Trek and it is made with reverence and love for Trek (not something you can say about Disco and Picard). And there are some good ideas here thrown into the mix... but I can't shake the feeling that it just isn't very good. It is weirdly less than the sum of its parts and I can't work out why.

 

The much vaunted finale did absolutely nothing for me at all. Episode 9 however was easily the best episode with a very clever framing device making it appear like the film versions of Star Trek with some clever audio cues.


All in all it felt like a low rent unfunny Futurama slathered in Star Trek clothes. The fact that this is the best Star Trek can now do is just depressing.

 

* ok I just remembered I did, once, when Q appeared and made one of his quips.

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7 minutes ago, Clipper said:

I watched the whole thing - strangely watchable but I didn't laugh once* and found it utterly disposable. The poeple writing it and making it obviously know their Trek and it is made with reverence and love for Trek (not something you can say about Disco and Picard). And there are some good ideas here thrown into the mix... but I can't shake the feeling that it just isn't very good. It is weirdly less than the sum of its parts and I can't work out why.

 

The much vaunted finale did absolutely nothing for me at all. Episode 9 however was easily the best episode with a very clever framing device making it appear like the film versions of Star Trek with some clever audio cues.


All in all it felt like a low rent unfunny Futurama slathered in Star Trek clothes. The fact that this is the best Star Trek can now do is just depressing.

 

* ok I just remembered I did, once, when Q appeared and made one of his quips.

Aye it all just feels cynical to me. Like Kurtzman has thrown it out to placate the massive fan base who are understandably upset that he's completely bastardised their franchise with the awful Disco and Picard.

 

Maybe pure nostalgia in the form of TNG-esque sets, ship designs and that font is enough for some people but I'd prefer something with some substance beyond endless Easter eggs.

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19 hours ago, Papaya Dance said:

Why does the main female character keep getting her tits out? Who decided a cartoon needs sexing up?

 

I've only seen the first two episodes but your comment intrigued me to Google "star trek lower decks nudity". Normally adding nudity to any other word or phrase in a Google search will produce some form of nudity, but not in this case! Is there nudity, or is your comment a case of hyperbole or prudishness?

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26 minutes ago, drmick said:

 

I've only seen the first two episodes but your comment intrigued me to Google "star trek lower decks nudity". Normally adding nudity to any other word or phrase in a Google search will produce some form of nudity, but not in this case! Is there nudity, or is your comment a case of hyperbole or prudishness?

I've only seen the first three and she's stripped down to her bra twice. The first time was part of the plot, the second was just to animate her tits again.

 

Call it prudishness if you like but it just sticks out like a sore thumb, as it did with T'Pol in Enterprise.

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35 minutes ago, Papaya Dance said:

I've only seen the first three and she's stripped down to her bra twice. The first time was part of the plot, the second was just to animate her tits again.

 

Call it prudishness if you like but it just sticks out like a sore thumb, as it did with T'Pol in Enterprise.

 

Bit of a long-shot but maybe they did it on purpose to be self-referential?

Y'know - 'oh hey look we're Star Trek, we get characters tits out in early episodes to hook the audience'

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1 hour ago, Thor said:

Can't say I noticed that, I was too busy enjoying actual proper Trek again. :lol:

 

To be honest proper Trek is already catered for with The Orville.

 

This isn't proper Trek unless you really really liked TAS and wanted a TNG version of it that wasn't as good as futurama and wasn't funny.

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19 hours ago, Protocol Penguin said:

Couldn’t make it past half of the first episode of this without switching off in irritation, to be honest. Total cringe.

 

So, can we assume this will be your last contribution to the thread?

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4 hours ago, drmick said:

 

So, can we assume this will be your last contribution to the thread?

I dunno people post in the Disco thread to bash it every week so it seems like a show is fair game if you hate watch it :D

 

Agreed that posting when you dont like it and dont watch it is a bit odd...

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Have started watching this now it’s on Prime and it’s surprisingly good! Considering the reactions we all had to the poster and the trailer, I’m well impressed.

 

The show’s much, much funnier than The Orville ever was (which I’m very glad quickly pivoted to dial down the jokes and therefore became good in its own right), and it’s clearly made with a proper love of Star Trek and the TNG era in particular. In fact there’s much more love for the franchise in there than there is in Discovery - it feels like Kurtzman did a ‘Rick-Berman-on-DS9’ and let Lower Decks slip through his net. 
 

I’ve only watched 3 eps so far but am really looking forward to the rest. 

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9 hours ago, Clipper said:

I dunno people post in the Disco thread to bash it every week so it seems like a show is fair game if you hate watch it :D

 

Agreed that posting when you dont like it and dont watch it is a bit odd...

The difference is Discovery is actually genuinely terrible. This is really good so long as the humour and overall style are to your taste. It's pure '90s era Trek with a modern twist. Yes, the early episodes aren't the best but I still enjoyed them; as the series went on I never wanted it end. I genuinely can't wait for more. 

 

edit: Agree on your latter point though. People who just dive bomb into threads not having watched (or played) the content, just to shit the thread, up are cunts.

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3 minutes ago, Thor said:

The difference is Discovery is actually genuinely terrible. This is really good so long as the humour and overall style are to your taste. It's pure '90s era Trek with a modern twist. Yes, the early episodes aren't the best but I still enjoyed them; as the series went on I never wanted it end. I genuinely can't wait for more. 

I know you like it - I was simply saying that if someone doesn't like a show they should be able to post that. And if they continue to hate watch it then they should be able to post about it.

 

It doesn't matter if it is Disco which is a "bad show" or Lower Decks which many think is a "good show"

 

 

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I’ve only watched 4 episodes so far, but I’m enjoying it in a completely comforting way that I like from my Trek. 
 

And I already know the names of more characters than I did after watching two and a half seasons of Discovery. 
 

Pleased to see there’ll be a second season and hopefully it gets picked up for more. 

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12 hours ago, Clipper said:

I dunno people post in the Disco thread to bash it every week so it seems like a show is fair game if you hate watch it :D

 

Agreed that posting when you dont like it and dont watch it is a bit odd...

Aren’t we allowed to say that we don’t like things on here now?

 

I was looking forward to this series being on Prime as I was after a Trek fix, and I can’t rewatch the old, good-era stuff forever. Maybe half the first episode is not enough to judge the full merits of the series. Although honestly, I’ve already got a pile of other stuff to watch on streaming subs, and I already gave Discovery too much of a chance to ‘get better’, wasting viewing time watching something I deeply dislike. I’m not going to watch something purely out of some sense of brand loyalty just because said franchise produced a pair of good TV shows back in the ‘90s. And, main issue, I don’t like hyperactive adult animated sitcoms which rely on riffs on pop culture references. Which Lower Decks is, unless there’s a drastic genre shift in later episodes I currently don’t know of.

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1 minute ago, Protocol Penguin said:

Aren’t we allowed to say that we don’t like things on here now?

 

 

No I am saying the opposite - if you watch something and don't like it then you should be allowed to post that without getting a snippy response (which is what I was responding to!)

 

 

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Watched 1.5 episodes (so far)- it's very self aware, a bit more knockabout than the usual trek , unsurprisingly, and a little overly familiar but it's not too shabby.

 

I was super cynical about it I think but it seems to get the spirit of trek, skewer it somewhat ( as someone mentioned in august (!) the bridge crew are arseholes)and then provide an equally wholesome but less grandiose  message .

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On 26/01/2021 at 23:02, Papaya Dance said:

Why does the main female character keep getting her tits out? Who decided a cartoon needs sexing up?


Eh? I don’t recall that happening in any episode to any character at all.

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Well I'm surprised to find that this is not actually terrible... There's clearly enough background Trek knowledge in it for it to feel comfortably familiar despite the more madcap tone.

 

Though I'm struggling to believe that

 

Spoiler

the Ensign bloke was really stupid enough to believe someone let alone a Starfleet crew wouldn't know what a Ferengi was.

 

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