The Mandalorian

[scottcr]

I quite enjoyed it but the whole 'have you removed your helmet' thing annoys me

 

Why don't all male mando's have massive bottom helmet shaped beards?

 

I reckon it's a mistranslation of some ancient mando text - they were told they weren't allowed to pull off their helmets, rather than remove them.  Big big difference.

[Kevvy Metal]

1 minute ago, scottcr said:

I quite enjoyed it but the whole 'have you removed your helmet' thing annoys me

 

Why don't all male mando's have massive bottom helmet shaped beards?

 

I reckon it's a mistranslation of some ancient mando text - they were told they weren't allowed to pull off their helmets, rather than remove them.  Big big difference.

 

All Mando helmets come with built in electric shavers. I read it in one of those Star Wars encyclopedia book things. They also cut your hair for your automatically, squeeze your spots and rub the sleep out your eyes. 

 

Dunno why it's not the case that everyone in the Star Wars universe just wears one!

[Pob]

Do they sleep in full beskar? Or have pyjamas, yet keep the helmet on?

 

Actually didn't season 1 show that he takes the helmet off at night but makes sure no-one's around?

[Kevvy Metal]

...it also picks your nose for you. 

 

[Benny]

The other thing that pisses me off about the helmet thing:

 

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He wrestled with the whole Mandalorian creed thing in both of the previous seasons. There were moments where in Season 2 he eventually was forced to remove it as a matter of survival, and then finally choosing to remove it to show his love for his foster son.

 

By making this season about him being desperate to dial that back and return to the rule of never taking his helmet off again, it's just ignoring or straight up laughing in the face of two entire season's worth of character growth. The reason it was interesting was it felt like the character was moving beyond the cult and through many adventures discovering what it was he actually cared about, and this gradually meant he abandoned the "old ways" and had a new outlook and child in his life to fight for, trumping his previous needs or desires or codes.

 

Even introducing Bo Katan felt like that episode was supposed to have characters that were a bit like him but with a new perspective, to help along his character growth and questioning his own role.

 

Everything about his new "quest" is as though the writers never saw a single one of those previous episodes, or actively hated the fact he'd been written to eventually take his helmet off.

Apparently Jon Favreau wrote this one... So I don't get it. Why?

 

[Benny]

Wait I just had a thought:

 

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Maybe Pascal is fed up with it, and they need to find a way to be able to keep churning this series out for years and years and years, and they need an in character reason for why we will never ever see his face in the series again...

 

Because if that's why:

[Vulgar Monkey]

I wonder if it matters at all that he thought he'd be handing grogu off to the jedi, then ended up getting him back?

Does seem a bit like he's now taking it upon himself to teach him more about his own life and, I daresay, how to be a mando bounty hunter, so maybe it comes from that. In fact, does he still have the little beskar chainmail?

 

Also yeah, theyve never actually said how long a run theyre aiming for have they?

[Alex W.]

34 minutes ago, Benny said:

Wait I just had a thought:

 

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Maybe Pascal is fed up with it, and they need to find a way to be able to keep churning this series out for years and years and years, and they need an in character reason for why we will never ever see his face in the series again...

 

Because if that's why:

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I think Pascal said that a lot of the time he just lets his double do the scene and he just does the dub.

 

[Pob]

53 minutes ago, Benny said:

Wait I just had a thought:

 

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Maybe Pascal is fed up with it, and they need to find a way to be able to keep churning this series out for years and years and years, and they need an in character reason for why we will never ever see his face in the series again...

 

Because if that's why:

Hmm, that's a good point. Characters like Vader, Chewie and R2 can go on forever because they don't have human faces. It's relatively easy to imitate the voice. Or more likely get AI to work on it.

[Kevvy Metal]

It does not negate his character growth at all. He's taken off his helmet in desperate situations to show that he's growing warmer to others and is willing to shun the rules of the guild to save or help them, but isn't going to all of a sudden from those moments of survival be all "I'm liberated now lol".

Returning to his guild -without grogu- has shown him retreat back to his old ways. He's lost this new relationship and gone back to the old and assumed his old identity only to be outcast. 

This season is going to be about his full character arc to throwing away his connection to the old guild. Bo Katan has shown him that there's a wider world of Mandalorians out there and his pilgrimage to Mandalore by himself will show that the idological planet that the old guild has painted is a lie. 

There's also the fact that Grogu has shun the way of the Jedi to take on the way of the Mandalorians to follow Din and he'll also feel conflicted on that. 

[Jammy]

1 hour ago, Benny said:

The other thing that pisses me off about the helmet thing:

 

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He wrestled with the whole Mandalorian creed thing in both of the previous seasons. There were moments where in Season 2 he eventually was forced to remove it as a matter of survival, and then finally choosing to remove it to show his love for his foster son.

 

By making this season about him being desperate to dial that back and return to the rule of never taking his helmet off again, it's just ignoring or straight up laughing in the face of two entire season's worth of character growth. The reason it was interesting was it felt like the character was moving beyond the cult and through many adventures discovering what it was he actually cared about, and this gradually meant he abandoned the "old ways" and had a new outlook and child in his life to fight for, trumping his previous needs or desires or codes.

 

Even introducing Bo Katan felt like that episode was supposed to have characters that were a bit like him but with a new perspective, to help along his character growth and questioning his own role.

 

Everything about his new "quest" is as though the writers never saw a single one of those previous episodes, or actively hated the fact he'd been written to eventually take his helmet off.

Apparently Jon Favreau wrote this one... So I don't get it. Why?

 

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It’s a big assumption one episode in that this season is a straight line to him doing whatever is necessary to get accepted back. It’s equally as plausible that we’ll have an episode after he’s earned his redemption where he says “I thought it was what I wanted, but…” and he turns away from them for good.

 

That said, you could be entirely right, and they could be setting up for life post-Pascal.

 

[Benny]

I tried telling some programmers that and they hit me!

[Hanzo the Razor]

5 hours ago, Kevvy Metal said:

When C3-PO and R2-D2 had their memories wiped did their personalities change?

I mean, come on people! If you're going to critique score point at least remember how droids work!

 

Only C3PO had his memory wiped. R2 didn't.

[Darren]

7 hours ago, Benny said:

Wait I just had a thought:

 

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Maybe Pascal is fed up with it, and they need to find a way to be able to keep churning this series out for years and years and years, and they need an in character reason for why we will never ever see his face in the series again...

 

Because if that's why:

Pedro said this week that he wants to play Mando for the rest of his life (possibly because it’s the easiest gig he’ll ever have).

 

Anyway, that was a very setup and exposition heavy episode but worth it entirely for the Cyberdyne Systems Model IG-101 scene and “Bad baby!”

 

Andor has spoiled us all for how good Star Wars can be, but there’s still room for a nice Saturday tea-time adventure too.

[Stig]

8 hours ago, Vulgar Monkey said:

I wonder if it matters at all that he thought he'd be handing grogu off to the jedi, then ended up getting him back?

Does seem a bit like he's now taking it upon himself to teach him more about his own life and, I daresay, how to be a mando bounty hunter, so maybe it comes from that. In fact, does he still have the little beskar chainmail?

 

Also yeah, theyve never actually said how long a run theyre aiming for have they?

 

This season better end with Grogu in a mini mando suit.

[skondo]

I'm glad this is back, but the first episode of S3 is terrible. I was waiting for it to do something and then it finished. Really hoping episode two increases the pace a bit.

[Mogster]

I thought this was fine, but nothing more really. It had some cool scenes but was lacking a strong direction.

[Kevvy Metal]

14 hours ago, Hanzo the Razor said:

 

Only C3PO had his memory wiped. R2 didn't.

 

It makes no difference to the point I was making. 

[Hanzo the Razor]

2 hours ago, Kevvy Metal said:

 

It makes no difference to the point I was making. 

 

[Hamus]

I dunno why PP would care about the helmet removal anymore.

 

He has aged a lot since Game of Thrones and doesn't have the same face power as before!

[makkuwata]

Speaking of Game of Thrones. I never posted in the reaction videos thread but one channel I’m still subscribed to from those days is SeanTanktop aka the Boston bar people.

 

 

[Darwock]

I liked the Marshall Doone excuse.

[drmick]

Yeah, I really hope the droid spare parts quest has some logic because right now I'm fearing that Jon Favreau is actually genuinely clueless about a lot of stuff as well as Star Wars* and Dave Filoni's name was nowhere to be seen.

 

* I reckon he'd even fail an MCU Happy Hogan quiz

[Stanley]

I thought the new episode was fine with some good action bits and space flight, and Grogu being cheeky and cute. But the whole Mandalorian creed thing is just dull. They’re just blacksmiths that hang around deserted temples not really doing much. Speaking of which did anyone get serious Halo vibes from that castle? 

[probotector]

Nando’s can’t remove their helmet in front of other people. They can when they are alone.

 

Also, it was confirmed last season that these guys are part of a nutter cult and it isn’t actually a mando thing. Hence Starbuck carries her’s around and called Mando a cultist extremist.

 

A lot of the real Mandos we killed on planet and only remnants remain, mainly zealots who were not on the planet when it got nuked 

[Stoppy2000]

6 hours ago, probotector said:

Nando’s can’t remove their helmet in front of other people. They can when they are alone.

 

Also, it was confirmed last season that these guys are part of a nutter cult and it isn’t actually a mando thing. Hence Starbuck carries her’s around and called Mando a cultist extremist.

 

A lot of the real Mandos we killed on planet and only remnants remain, mainly zealots who were not on the planet when it got nuked 

Bit cheeky. 

[Phantoon]

9 hours ago, probotector said:

Also, it was confirmed last season that these guys are part of a nutter cult and it isn’t actually a mando thing. Hence Starbuck carries her’s around and called Mando a cultist extremist.

The other point they're trying to make is that Mandalorians are all nutter extremists to one way or another. Sure, Bo-Katarn doesn't believe in the helmet thing but she and her crew have given up on restoring Mandalore (which is surely the most important thing) because she doesn't have a magic sword.

 

They seem to be the opposite of the Jedi. They all got killed because they all agreed on an (incorrect) reading of what a Jedi should be, whereas the Mandalorians got murked because they were too busy fighting each other to be the power they should have been.

 

I can understand Din wanting to be back with the Watch. Without Grogu they were literally the only family that he had. Just because he took his helmet off doesn't mean he turned his back on everything, it's just a sign of how much he loves Grogu.

[Kevvy Metal]

20 hours ago, probotector said:

Nando’s can’t remove their helmet in front of other people. They can when they are alone.

 

Also, it was confirmed last season that these guys are part of a nutter cult and it isn’t actually a mando thing. Hence Starbuck carries her’s around and called Mando a cultist extremist.

 

A lot of the real Mandos we killed on planet and only remnants remain, mainly zealots who were not on the planet when it got nuked 

Yes, this is all correct. 
I just assume the people who miss all this are constantly on their phone while “watching” it. 

[Kevvy Metal]

10 hours ago, Phantoon said:

The other point they're trying to make is that Mandalorians are all nutter extremists to one way or another. Sure, Bo-Katarn doesn't believe in the helmet thing but she and her crew have given up on restoring Mandalore (which is surely the most important thing) because she doesn't have a magic sword.

 

They seem to be the opposite of the Jedi. They all got killed because they all agreed on an (incorrect) reading of what a Jedi should be, whereas the Mandalorians got murked because they were too busy fighting each other to be the power they should have been.

 

I can understand Din wanting to be back with the Watch. Without Grogu they were literally the only family that he had. Just because he took his helmet off doesn't mean he turned his back on everything, it's just a sign of how much he loves Grogu.

This too! ❤️

[probotector]

42 minutes ago, Kevvy Metal said:

Yes, this is all correct. 
I just assume the people who miss all this are constantly on their phone while “watching” it. 

It was all pretty much explained every time Starbuck was on screen.

Mando was confused and thought they were fakes while Starbuck clocked straight away he was from the watch.

 

It was an interesting twist. Clearly it was building to him removing the helmet. Finding the mines will probably complete his story arc I’d say.