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On 30/09/2022 at 18:42, TehStu said:

Your predicament made me look up Amazon Luna. Might be worth a look when it comes to the UK? Pad connects directly to service like Stadia. I didn't realize I effectively had this now with Prime, there's a rotating selection of games.


Comes to the UK? Didn’t Amazon start winding it down last year?

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2 hours ago, deKay said:


Comes to the UK? Didn’t Amazon start winding it down last year?


It only formally launched last year!!

 

Amazon don’t seem sure what to do with it mind, although as Ubi have now lost a worldwide streaming platform for Ubi+ they might persuade Amazon to launch elsewhere

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2 hours ago, deKay said:

Comes to the UK? Didn’t Amazon start winding it down last year?

When I get my prime games each month, there's a thing at thy bottom reminding me I can use Luna.

 

You can subscribe to Ubi+ via it already.

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Sad to see Stadia go, I was an early adopter and loved the simplicity and immediacy of the service. Cyberpunk showed what it could do but ultimately that was the high point and developers clearly weren't interested in ports if Google weren't paying. I've long since moved to Geforce Now which turned out to be more aligned with what I want streaming to be (renting a GPU).

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They were screwed the second they made people pay full price for games. Absolutely stupid move.

 

Also the way this has been closed is typical for a US company. It is how they operate. I work for a large global US company. They made some of my team redundant a couple of months ago and are shutting down the product despite having been saying for months that they were investing over 5 million dollars in the product we work on.

 

Happened overnight, no one saw it coming, even the UK upper management and they still haven't informed any of the customers.

 

 

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I wonder how Stadia shuttering is going to affect the future of other streaming offerings... or maybe it will have no affect at all?  Was Stadia really a leading light in that sense, or are the likes of Xcloud their own thing and the fate of Stadia is irrelevant to them?

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I don't think Stadia was a leading light in anything other than their technology. There was so much wrong with their business model and marketing that I think there was plenty to blame before you get to streaming itself.

 

I think it might make people think twice before buying streaming only games outright in the future though.

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I still think there is a future.

 

I find Xcloud really, really good but it's effectively just Game Pass Cloud. It's an additional benefit for people who have already bought into the ecosystem by virtue of owning hardware. Does anyone here exclusively play Game Pass via streaming?

 

I'd like to see them make the entire Xbox catalogue available, but I don't see that happening until the next generation, which will be the true start of cloud gaming being  an alternative to specialist home hardware, at scale.

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1 minute ago, Jarik said:

I wonder how Stadia shuttering is going to affect the future of other streaming offerings... or maybe it will have no affect at all?  Was Stadia really a leading light in that sense, or are the likes of Xcloud their own thing and the fate of Stadia is irrelevant to them?

 

Irrelevant to xCloud I think. It's a very very different service offering. More about extending your access to your Xbox and PC gaming outside of the home.

 

Maybe it's more interesting to a standalone streaming business (i.e. Luna) but even then I think Google's classic of flinging shit at the market and seeing if it sticks without support or good marketing is unlikely to be a useful data point.

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1 hour ago, Jarik said:

I wonder how Stadia shuttering is going to affect the future of other streaming offerings... or maybe it will have no affect at all?  Was Stadia really a leading light in that sense, or are the likes of Xcloud their own thing and the fate of Stadia is irrelevant to them?

No doubt Google will come back at some point, they’re not just going to hand that market to MS. They came in underprepared too early, again probably to thwart MS, but they hadn’t thought any of it through.

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2 hours ago, hub2 said:

I find Xcloud really, really good but it's effectively just Game Pass Cloud. It's an additional benefit for people who have already bought into the ecosystem by virtue of owning hardware. Does anyone here exclusively play Game Pass via streaming?

 

I don't have an Xbox but I used my £1 introductory Gamepass month to play exclusively streamed Xbox games.

(Whether I'd pay a normal sub to do that is another matter, but still!)

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5 hours ago, Stanley said:

No doubt Google will come back at some point, they’re not just going to hand that market to MS. They came in underprepared too early, again probably to thwart MS, but they hadn’t thought any of it through.

Because the whole corporate culture is LPA: launch, promote, abandon. I wouldn't touch a Google product until they showed signs of knocking that on the head. Obviously, they're not the only ones, but I read an account from an ex-employee who was LPA'd at Microsoft (Kin... remember that?) and went to Google to work on... Google+.

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The only thing I think I use by Google is YouTube, which they bought anyway, then again they’re hardly alone there either. 
 

It’s totally mad to me that with their reach and resources they couldn’t have done better with Stadia. Everyone was focussing on the tech, which works tremendously well, just everything else they seem clueless about! 

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I’m another who uses nothing from Google except Google and this, so I must say I’ve found the experience of exporting all my Cyberpunk screen captures using Takeout to be very smooth.

 

I had 12gb! :blink:

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From Google I use Search, Chrome, Maps and Youtube.  I knew they had a reputation for killing things but it wasn't until I went on that killedbygoogle site that I realized just how many things that is.  I was curious so I went to the site and scrolled down...and down...and down...and down.... :blink:

 

Geez.  I think I understand much better now why people don't (and shouldn't) trust anything Google launches unless it's already a success or is a massive success right out of the gate.

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On 29/09/2022 at 18:14, jonathanhoey said:

Fingers crossed they will do a final firmware update for the controller to allow it to work wirelessly in Windows. I know you can plug it in but it’d be nice not to have to.

 

When I posted this I thought it was pretty far-fetched, but: 

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/barrycollins/2022/10/03/google-may-unlock-stadia-controller/

 

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Google announced last week that its Stadia games streaming service would be closing in January. Although the Stadia controller can be used as a wired controller on PCs, Macs and smartphones, the ability to use it as a Bluetooth controller is disabled.

 

The company is now exploring whether it can release a software update for the device which would allow owners to use it as a wireless controller for other platforms.

 

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(to be clear, I still don't think they'll do it)

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