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On 02/09/2018 at 15:46, iknowgungfu said:

It’s a shame they don’t do a free trial for a a day or few hours or something. 

 

Try Geforce now. it's the mostly same thing and is in FREE beta right now. You just need to request an invite, though I have no idea how long it takes to be accepted as I've had it maybe a year now.

 

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/products/geforce-now/waitlist/

 

Only have Steam, Uplay, and Activision Blizzard launchers at the moment. I.e. no Origin for example.

 

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On 02/09/2018 at 23:04, hub2 said:

 

Try Geforce now. it;' the mostly same thing and is in FREE beta right now. You just need to request an invite, though I have no idea how long it takes to be accepted as I've had it maybe a year now.

 

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/products/geforce-now/waitlist/

 

Only have Steam, Uplay, and Activision Blizzard launchers at the moment. I.e. no Origin for example.

 

And I assume you need an Nvidea GFX card?

 

Edit : Never assume anything - seems to work with other cards as well!

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I can see this being the future for all but the most specialist. Those who do eSports and earn a living from playing. 

 

For most of us, this is going to be ideal. I haven't on the whole played a game on this where I thought... yeah it's ok, but you can tell it is streaming*. And the tech is only going to get better. We will have many who would argue about latency and such, but for the vast majority I don't see that being an issue and MS seem to be positioning their next console to have this ability too. 

 

*Yes I have had the occasional stutter, but I expect that to be ironed out. 

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35 minutes ago, mushashi said:

Most of the major players are certainly hedging their bets it will become a mainstream thing. Ubisoft and EA both seem to be doing it, along with Microsoft's upcoming entrant and Sony's existing service.

 

Certainly going to be interesting in the next gen of consoles. Effectively whatever Xbox/Playstation say you have now will work in future as you'll be able  to use it to connect to a gaming box in the cloud and play locally with some sort of streaming/local storage cache to smooth out performance. All the upgrades will just be to the host client now and gain for 4K/8K/16K or whatever support - which will be super cheap. Combined with Game pass on the Xbox this could be quite appealing.. if the price and peformance work out. Oh and you could play anywhere too. Of course you will have no control over anything in terms of the content.....

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My experience is excellent but I'd say it definitely favours certain genres. Stuff like shmups work great in my experience, maybe because an element of slowdown is usually built in so it's not so noticeable if it happens at certain times. Cuphead was flawless. The Witcher 3 was also amazingly good even on Ultra. Forza 7 was very impressive depending on the track but Forza Horizon 3 was where I was noticed it struggling. There's maybe just too much to stream too quickly, so it always felt like it was working hard even if not actually dropping frames. It's hard to say but that's my impression, anyway. 

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As someone who hasn't upgraded their graphics card since 2012 this sounds tempting. The prices of new cards is frankly ridiculous. The fact this lets you use your own Steam library is a really big plus. OnLive was taking the piss expecting people to pony up for a sub and games on top. As has been suggested they need some kind of trial to see if it's viable on your connection, even if it's just some test software that measures speed and latency. Either that or you can get your first month's money back if it doesn't work. I don't know.

 

Part of me is resistant because this is the top of the slippery slope towards hiring games and having publishers take total control. But it's going going to get easier and more convenient.

 

£550 for a new gfx card. That's basically 2 years of this service.

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On 02/09/2018 at 23:04, hub2 said:

 

Try Geforce now. it;' the mostly same thing and is in FREE beta right now. You just need to request an invite, though I have no idea how long it takes to be accepted as I've had it maybe a year now.

 

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/products/geforce-now/waitlist/

 

Only have Steam, Uplay, and Activision Blizzard launchers at the moment. I.e. no Origin for example.

 

Thanks. On the waiting list. 

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17 hours ago, Stanshall said:

but Forza Horizon 3 was where I was noticed it struggling. There's maybe just too much to stream too quickly, so it always felt like it was working hard even if not actually dropping frames. It's hard to say but that's my impression, anyway. 

 

The game is notoriously poorly optimised on PC and struggles to maintain 60fps, unlike Forza 7. It's fine with a console performance level cap.

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It's interesting to see this monthly subscription. I wonder what the cost of setting up your own instance on Azure with associated GPU oomph would be.  You'd only be paying for it when you use it rather than these services that take the same payment whether you use it for hundreds of hours a month or don't touch it. I looked into doing it myself about a year back but getting something in Azure or AWS that would give you ultra levels of performance was still not quite there. 

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I suppose the difference with the bog standard virtualised cloud services is that this has a dedicated high end GPU available to you, while I've always assumed standard cloud servers are primarily just a load of CPUs which can be multi-tasked/chunked more easily for the types of tasks they usually do.

 

They also have way higher bandwidth usage than the typical cloud service rental, unless you're running a Netflix competitor on them. Somebody has to pay for that too.

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Apparently Shadow.tech employs a bunch of Nvidia licensed Quadro P5000's in their server farm. Unfortunately this has the minor drawback in that any game which requires an up-to-date "Game Ready Driver" will fail. An example I found of this is the new Battlefield V Beta. I did find a way around the check, but unfortunately it runs like crap so will just have to hope that once the full game is released, they also update their Quadro drivers.

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Shadow has cost me money...

 

 

 

 

 

I splurged and bought this:

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And this:

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Ordered, still waiting for this:

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The monitor is 240hz which Shadow doesn't support but it does support 144hz. And OMG it's bloody marvellous. It's silky smooth. Even without G-Sync. Night and day difference from playing at 60 on my macbook. This is all new to me, I has no idea a good mouse would make such a difference.

 

285 for the display, 50 for the mouse, 66 for the mech keyboard. 

 

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I've gone all in on this and upgraded to the 1TB drive for an extra £2.95 bringing it to just shy of £30/mo. Having built my own gaming PC's ever since the 90's, I just feel things have got a bit too expensive for 5 years or so of future-proofing. If they stick to their upgrade promise then I have no reason to look elsewhere. Given the extra space, I reinstalled the Witcher 3 and found this time strangely it ran smooth as butter. Not sure what happened on my first attempt, but I've been working my way through it from the beginning and having a blast :) It also looks amazing too and never noticed up until now things like the characters pores on their skin. I'm actually running it at the reduced 30mb connection rate as I find it the best balance between smoothness and image quality. So far two thumbs up from me and at worst, if they do fold, I haven't lost anything given the 1 month contract so if I do need to buy / build my own later down the line I will.

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I've cancelled my subscription for now. Not because I don't like it, but more because I want to work out exactly what I am paying out for each month and bring it down. 

 

I feel I need to get a monitor and one of their boxes so I can set it up like a desktop and go from there. I will be heading back to it in the New Year I think. 

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Just decided to take a look at this as I really want to play Forza 4 but can't afford an Xbox X and my PC will only run it on medium with frame drops.  Am I right in saying you can install whatever you want to it? (if you get my drift!) 

 

Also use code COLVDH3H to knock a tenner of first months subscription (my referral) or the ILOVESHADOW code still works.

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