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22 minutes ago, IcEBuRN said:

Isn't that basically the same??

 

That's what it was written for. The TNG theme just borrowed it and sped it up (wisely, i fairness).

 

How Goldsmith didn't get an Oscar for this score I'll never understand.

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6 minutes ago, Festoon said:

 

That's what it was written for. The TNG theme just borrowed it and sped it up (wisely, i fairness).

 

How Goldsmith didn't get an Oscar for this score I'll never understand.

I had no idea! I never noticed, though really my trek journey started with TNG as a kid.

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2 hours ago, Commander Jameson said:

I know, I know. Can I go with both arrangements?

 

Sure, it so amazing it bears it!

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Amazing eh? Let me just post this:

James Horner on "How to make reversing out of a garage epic"

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5 hours ago, Festoon said:

 

:quote:*Ahem*

 


What a wonderful, uplifting composition it is. Perfectly captures the sense of wide-eyed wonder and exploration of the first movie. 
 

Similarly, the score for Wrath of Khan really delivers on excitement and adventure:

 

 

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2 hours ago, Mr Ben said:

Amazing eh? Let me just post this:

James Horner on "How to make reversing out of a garage epic"

I also liked how the ship you were rooting against there, and was basically the butt of a joke, became the a ship you were rooting for three movies later. 

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5 hours ago, JohnC said:

I also liked how the ship you were rooting against there, and was basically the butt of a joke, became the a ship you were rooting for three movies later. 

Little known (nerd) fact: In Star Trek Online you can buy the Excelsior as a T6 ship that came with a special Transwarp Drive module that would occasionally fail and make the same sound effects as in the film :lol:

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10 hours ago, Popo said:


What a wonderful, uplifting composition it is. Perfectly captures the sense of wide-eyed wonder and exploration of the first movie. 
 

Similarly, the score for Wrath of Khan really delivers on excitement and adventure:

 

 

It is amazing and gives me shivers every time I see the film, at least once a year.   The reworking for Battle Beyond the Stars and Aliens is equally great. 

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Ep 9

mind melding heel turn robots? 

:unsure: 

 

I continue to be mesmerised by Elnor's - not really shaved - eyebrows. And then the accent kicks in and I expect him to open a bottle of Castlemaine with his sword.

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I'd save this episode for a Picard binge next week. 

 

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Because it's boring and very unsatisfying  It's going to need a big finish to make up for it. 

 

What a waste of Spiner. He should have been Lore with new aging tech stolen from Maddox, or something within the lore of 90s Trek. 

 

Did Roddenbury die with the combination to the safe that held all the short science fiction stories they have collected over the years?

 

This whole series was very poor. And I'm not having that whole bollocks about first season of Trek always being shit. After the upturn in TV quality since The Wire and Breaking Bad there's no fucking excuse.

 

 

 

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RLM review is out for eps 6,7 and 8

Not seen ep 9 yet, will watch later tonight.

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ehhhh that was not great. This whole show is a series of missed opportunities and just questions of "why?!". Things dont have to make absolute sense, but stop being stupid.

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I hope its not as bad as you guys are saying, but I suspect it is.

 

Why cant we have decent Trek?!?

 

Because Alex Kurtzman :(

 

Edit: watching the RLM review, and the Borg bit with Picard having a panic attack on the cube, whereas in Descent he's all like "Huh Borg eh? Oh well" :lol:

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That was bad 

 

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Aren't vulcans slightly telepathic, that's why they have the whole mind meld thing right. 

 

It was discovery level of stupid

 

Anyone want to take bets on the final episode having the line

 

"Ships coming out of warp Picard, Sir....... it's the Enterprise!"

 

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From the comments section of that RLM vid:

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“I am not. I am not doing Star Trek Discovery Season 3. I refuse.” -Rich Evans.

 

Yes he will. Mike will hold Rich down and force Season 3 into him if he has to.

 

:lol:

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So Noonian Soong, his great grandfather and his son all look the absolute fucking same?  

:lol: 

 

 

And since when did Soong have a son? Wasn't the whole android-building thing an allegory for him making a child, like the son he never had? That he always told to call him "father"?
(Apparently not any more! "BTW, got a secret son too, lol!!") 

I quite liked the idea of giant space flowers, that's something I haven't seen before; but it was pretty fucking weird when you think about it. Are they, like, robot flowers? What's the connection with synth-building facility and giant space flora? Seems a bit specialist! 

Nitpicking, but: it's nice to see that, after ST: Discovery showed us that being poked in the eye doesn't actually cause any demonstrable harm to a normal human, it does in fact conveniently kill a super-human android. :unsure: 

Extra nitpicking: "Spot 2"? Look, I think there already was a Spot 2. Data definitely had two cats. Long-haired one with the big bushy tail and then later a short haired one. That changed sex. And turned into a newt. (It got better.)

 

So, uh, yeah, not a good episode.

 

Putting the trivial nitpicking aside, I just can't buy into the premise - this false moral dilemma that turns synths into psychopaths who want to commit genocide to save themselves. Unless they're actually all descendents of Lore, not Data. It's damned lazy writing.

 

 

Two hundred CGI ships exploding in a kaleidoscope of lasers in the finale, then? *sarcastic thumbs up!!*

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7 hours ago, Mr Ben said:

RLM review is out for eps 6,7 and 8

 

 

OMG, that Riker instagramming the viewscreen bit slayed me. :lol:

 

Modern Star Trek is worth it just for these.

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Oh god, where to begin. Mass Effect 3 vibes aplenty.

 

I didnt mind it until

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the mind meld by an android rubbish, and it is rubbish as no other race, let alone synthetic has ever done that. Then they just rushed headfirst into the ME3 higher plane of existence synthetics nonsense. RLM predicted it in the review I posted, as did you yourself earlier in the thread @Thor. This is lazy, and feels like plagiarism, sorry.

 

And the ending is gonna be more pew pew it seems with that many Romulan ships (what happened to all the old Romulan ships? D'Deridex onwards seems to have been forgotten....). Not looking forward to next episode, and its looking like its going to be a cliff hanger ending to boot :facepalm:

Also yeah @Sprite Machine, I was laughing my arse off when I watched that video. The Instagram clip "killing my old boss - LOL" and "Man I hope this deflector dish laser shit works or we're fucked LOLOLOLO" :lol:

 

Cant wait for the next review from RLM now!

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I thought the whole vibe of the colony itself was quite Next Gen, especially all the togas and that. But really Picard, what else do you think the androids can do? Sit there and get massacred? Of course they're gonna call up the big bad android gods.

 

I do like Soji's evil sister though. Gold is very becoming of her!

 

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11 hours ago, Death's Head said:
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I thought the whole vibe of the colony itself was quite Next Gen, especially all the togas and that.

 

Yeah! i was like yes! yes yeahhhh but then ah no you've fucked it. Its all nice set dressing and nostalgia but that just masks the underlying issues thats been around in all new Trek.

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My new crackpot speculative theory is:
 

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Maddox gets huffy when he’s told he can’t keep on making The Best Androids in the Universe, fucks off to wherever. With Data long gone and the inferior B4’s bits still on Earth, he takes a punt on Plan C and fires up He Who Should Not Be Switched On Again. They fuck around with his exterior so they can pass him off as Soong’s never before mentioned son if anyone asks and get busy making Harder Better Faster androids. Alter Ego, sorry, Altern Inigo Soong does an Ultron and starts making himself a new and improved body and dopey Anges is going to stay to help him finish. At which point he will gleefully get his usual M.O on and hook up with the Ancient Killer Unknowables From Beyond Space and wipe out organic life because it’s his favourite thing in life.

 

Then Seven rams a Borg cube down his throat and Jean Luc gives a heartwarming speech about synthesis and everyone goes home resolving to be better. Just off-screen, Q wipes a single tear from his eye.

 

 

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19 hours ago, Sprite Machine said:
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So Noonian Soong, his great grandfather and his son all look the absolute fucking same?  

:lol: 

 

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And since when did Soong have a son? Wasn't the whole android-building thing an allegory for him making a child, like the son he never had? That he always told to call him "father"?
(Apparently not any more! "BTW, got a secret son too, lol!!") 
 

 

 

 

   I do quite like the idea that soong did have a biological kid, and then just fucking sidelined him while spoiling his favorites.

:D We all know the occasional dysfunctional family like that.   

 

Also, my own theory:

If Picard is dying, what's the betting he somehow ends up in that synthetic body, allowing for a convenient recasting for future seasons?   

 

 

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16 minutes ago, Vulgar Monkey said:

 

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   I do quite like the idea that soong did have a biological kid, and then just fucking sidelined him while spoiling his favorites.

:D We all know the occasional dysfunctional family like that.   

 

 

Also, my own theory:

 

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If Picard is dying, what's the betting he somehow ends up in that synthetic body, allowing for a convenient recasting for future seasons?   

 

 

 

Yep. 100% this

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8 hours ago, Joystick Chevron said:

My new crackpot speculative theory is:
 

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Maddox gets huffy when he’s told he can’t keep on making The Best Androids in the Universe, fucks off to wherever. With Data long gone and the inferior B4’s bits still on Earth, he takes a punt on Plan C and fires up He Who Should Not Be Switched On Again. They fuck around with his exterior so they can pass him off as Soong’s never before mentioned son if anyone asks and get busy making Harder Better Faster androids. Alter Ego, sorry, Altern Inigo Soong does an Ultron and starts making himself a new and improved body and dopey Anges is going to stay to help him finish. At which point he will gleefully get his usual M.O on and hook up with the Ancient Killer Unknowables From Beyond Space and wipe out organic life because it’s his favourite thing in life.

 

Then Seven rams a Borg cube down his throat and Jean Luc gives a heartwarming speech about synthesis and everyone goes home resolving to be better. Just off-screen, Q wipes a single tear from his eye.

 

 

 

I totally agree.

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I don't know how yet, but that dude is Lore.  Be seems far too happy with the idea of everyone supposedly like him getting killed.

 

Otherwise he is pretty much his character in Enterprise who is also identical.

 

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