My Gamecube prediction

[blue swIIrl]

Thinking about how unpopular (ish) the Gamecube is recently, I had a thought; if I were to come back to these forums in 4 years, I bet there would be long threads about how great the Gamecube was, how sad it was that it was mostly ignored by the uneducated masses, and people buying and selling them for pretty decent prices. Xboxes and PS2s would be the equivalent of todays PSone; there's so many of the fuckers around today that tommorow they'll be worth shit-all. All in all, just like the Dreamcast. Forumites are always digging this machine out of second hand shops and posting about how great it is.

Thoughts? (Feel free to completely disagree with me, it was just a flash of inspiration. If anyone can prove me wrong, I'm all too happy for that to happen. )

[Hackign]

Last time I heard the GC was 2nd place worldwide. (thanks to Japan).

[Transient Curse]

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[dr_lha]

The Gamecube is far far past the point at which the Dreamcast died. It's sold about the same as the Xbox, if not more (if you believe Nintendo) worldwide. It was a huge seller this Xmas in its largest market (USA) recording the only increase in console sales over a year over all the consoles available after its 3rd Xmas in the market. Nintendo are actually making steady good profits.

OK - explain to me again how its like the Dreamcast? Oh that's right - it's doing shit in the UK, therefore shit everywhere else.

[blue swIIrl]

OK - explain to me again how its like the Dreamcast? Oh that's right - it's doing shit in the UK, therefore shit everywhere else.

Thats a rather obtuse way of putting what I said. I know that GC is doing well in Japan, and the $99 price point+zelda disc made it sell like hot cakes in the US, but it's still a rather unpopular machine, especially, yes, as you said, in the UK. (You'll note I said "ish" after saying the GC was unpopular, and said DreamcastESQUE, not exactly-like-the-Dreamcast.)

I'm just asking whether people think that it'll do a Dreamcast and be the machine of choice from the last generation when the next comes out (PS3 etc.)

[dr_lha]

Thats a rather obtuse way of putting what I said. I know that GC is doing well in Japan, and the $99 price point+zelda disc made it sell like hot cakes in the US, but it's still a rather unpopular machine, especially, yes, as you said, in the UK. (You'll note I said "ish" after saying the GC was unpopular, and said DreamcastESQUE, not exactly-like-the-Dreamcast.)

Except it's not "still a rather unpopular machine" in terms of the whole world, just in UK terms. Unless you rate the Xbox as "a rather unpopular machine" which I'm betting you don't.

[SomeNaiveChump]

I'm just asking whether people think that it'll do a Dreamcast and be the machine of choice from the last generation when the next comes out (PS3 etc.)

Dreamcast is from this generation though

[blue swIIrl]

Except it's not "still a rather unpopular machine" in terms of the whole world, just in UK terms. Unless you rate the Xbox as "a rather unpopular machine" which I'm betting you don't.

In Japan I do. And by unpopular I'm not considering sales; I'm considering what I think this forum generally seems to think, and what the world at large thinks: the Gamecube is just not as cool as Xbox/PS2. Can we get off the subject of what defines popularity and get back to what my original post was about; the GC being the last gen machine of choice for the PS3 generation.

[amanset]

In Japan I do. And by unpopular I'm not considering sales; I'm considering what I think this forum generally seems to think, and what the world at large thinks: the Gamecube is just not as cool as Xbox/PS2. Can we get off the subject of what defines popularity and get back to what my original post was about; the GC being the last gen machine of choice for the PS3 generation.

But your post is fundamentally flawed in that it is full of shit.

"And by unpopular I'm not considering sales" is just such a stupid thing to say you really just have to point and laugh. You are basically saying unpopular doesn't mean actually how many have been sold, but what your skewed perception of the world is.

Also, your post had sod all to do with "the GC being the last gen machine of choice for the PS3 generation". It was yet another Dreamcastometer "The Gamecube is dying" thread, which we have seen so many times before and is so far from the truth I really have to wonder if you ever manage to wake up.

Lots of people like the Gamecube and lots of people are buying it. Not as many as the Playstation2, but at least as many as the allegedly not-dying Xbox. Deal with it.

[___]

Forumite in mistaking perception for reality shocker!

[Systemshock]

To take a bit of a liberty and generalise the console buying preferencies of this forum, I would suggest that many have bought a DC, then a PS2, then a GC and then an Xbox and then Xbox Live. I imagine that games have been enjoyed, loved and hated on all.

The UK market though has bought the PS2 (in spades) and to a lesser extent the Xbox. I suspect that the GC has faired overall not too dis-similarly to the DC in the UK, hence perhaps the basis for this completely stupid thread.

But clearly Nintendo aren't going to pull the GC and to even suggest otherwise is brainless bollocks.

[zxcvbnm]

I think the position of the gamecube in the UK is squarely the fault of Nintendo UK's - they could have pushed better, or paid more, to get the prime spots in Game etc, they could have advertised the cube more. Those first wave of ads were quite good, but I can't remember the last time I saw one. ANd they need shooting for not doing demo discs. People love demo discs. its true.

Mind you, I bet the user-base has increased dramatically after this christmas, so its still not too late for them to pull their heads out of their arses and get stuff sorted.

[Badger]

Nah.

The Dreamcast is for cool people.

Sega had already lost so much support with the Mega CD, 32X, Saturn confusion, then losing out with the Saturn behind the PSone and N64.

Nintendo still have a large enough market to survive, and a loyal enough fanbase.

Next gen could be the end tho

[CouldBeWorse]

The GC and xbox are popular consoles just not as popular as the PS2. Both the GC and xbox have been successful consoles, even if they haven't even challenged the PS2 for top spot. What is it, 20 million Xbox/GCs (each)? sold worldwide is very impressive and Nintendo and Microsoft must be pleased with the sales.

Ok the GC is not selling much in the UK and Australia but it still selling at a fairly good rate *unlike the DC a few years back.

*is it a thousand or so a week or has it dropped since last year?

But overall The GC and xbox are successful while the DC wasn't and theres nothing similiar between the DC sales and GC sales, and the PS2 has been a huge success. DC=failure. GC=Success.

[magician717]

What is missing from this thread is the fact the the GCN is already suffering from a lack of support from developers.

The Gamecube disappeared from the development radar about a year ago. The consumer won't see the full effect of this until the end of this year.

[vamecum]

What is missing from this thread is the fact the the GCN is already suffering from a lack of support from developers.

The Gamecube disappeared from the development radar about a year ago. The consumer won't see the full effect of this until the end of this year.

Where do you get these 'facts'. why would developers drop the gamecube now that it managed to rise from the slow period it had before the price-cut?... logic tels me software support will stay about the same, or rise...

[Jack]

What is missing from this thread is the fact the the GCN is already suffering from a lack of support from developers.

Off the top of my head, Namco, EA, Capcom, Konami, THQ, Sega, Bandai, Square ENIX, and of course Zed Two are still supporting the GameCube. That's in literally ten seconds of thought, so it's not exactly like the Dreamcast. The GC has FIFA, remember.

[Bada Bing!]

I don't know where to start telling you how daft your initial post was that I won't bother starting.

Gamecube is a great machine selling in decent numbers. It isn't going to die anytime soon.

You may not have one, and may not want one, but that doesn't mean you have to start threads saying "OMG TEH GAMECUBE IS TEH DODO!!!1111".

[magician717]

These 'facts' come from being within the industry.

The GCN had a 4.9% share of software sales over Xmas.

What 2005 games do you know of for Gamecube that are not being produced by the format holder themselves ?

[amanset]

The GCN had a 4.9% share of software sales over Xmas.

Where?

What 2005 games do you know of for Gamecube that are not being produced by the format holder themselves ?

What 2005 games do I know of full stop? FFXII will probably get to Europe in 2005. That's about it.

Duke Nukem Forever?

Edit:

Really screwe dup that Final Fantasy number.

[vamecum]

gamecube list

I'm sure nintendo isn't that productive

[matt0]

These 'facts' come from being within the industry.

The GCN had a 4.9% share of software sales over Xmas.

What 2005 games do you know of for Gamecube that are not being produced by the format holder themselves ?

Is software sales there including non-games stuff and PC games?

And what 2005 games do you know of for the other two consoles anyway? (Aside from Halo 2 )

[Haribokart]

Big mistake- don't say a word against Nintendo on this forum! Sony, Microsoft, nokia etc: all are crap compared to the almighty Nintendo!

[Sprite Machine]

Big mistake- don't say a word against Nintendo on this forum! Sony, Microsoft, nokia etc: all are crap compared to the almighty Nintendo!

You learn quickly.

[Apollo]

These 'facts' come from being within the industry.

Do you work in Game then?

[PaB]

These 'facts' come from being within the industry.

The GCN had a 4.9% share of software sales over Xmas.

What 2005 games do you know of for Gamecube that are not being produced by the format holder themselves ?

Link?

Heres one I found earlier...

http://www.gamespot.com/all/news/news_6086684.html

Nintendo announces that both the GameCube and GBA SP enjoyed strong sales in Europe this Christmas.

Nintendo has today announced that both the GameCube and the Game Boy Advance SP enjoyed strong sales in Europe over the Christmas holiday period. Sales of the GameCube were up a massive 88 percent across Europe compared to the same period last year, taking the number of consoles in Europe to almost 3 million. GameCube software sales were up 45 percent compared with the same period last year, largely thanks to the arrival of Mario Kart: Double Dash!! and 1080 Avalanche.

If they were up 45% on last xmas, then they must have sold around 4 games in total during xmas 2002. Given that according to you they accounted for 4.9% of sales in total.

[blue swIIrl]

I don't know where to start telling you how daft your initial post was that I won't bother starting.

Gamecube is a great machine selling in decent numbers. It isn't going to die anytime soon.

You may not have one, and may not want one, but that doesn't mean you have to start threads saying "OMG TEH GAMECUBE IS TEH DODO!!!1111".

*bashes head agaisnt wall in utter frustration*

Okay, here's what I'm trying to get at;

1) I never said the GC was dying

2) I don't think it is dying

3) I'm not comparing the GC to the DC in the way you all think I am

4) By popularity, perhaps I'm using the wrong word: I'm just trying to say that the GC is not seen as a cool machine

5) By do a Dreamcast, I'm simply saying that I think in the future, it'll be the GC that'll be most fondly remembered, as opposed to the xbox or ps2.

*continues bashing head agaisnt wall*

Got it? Please say you understand. Please.

PS The only current gen machine I own is a GC. And I have never used l33t speak in my life, except in a mocking manner.

[amanset]

4) By popularity, perhaps I'm using the wrong word: I'm just trying to say that the GC is not seen as a cool machine

Says who?

And yes, it was completely the wrong word.

[dam_aks]

*bashes head agaisnt wall in utter frustration*

Okay, here's what I'm trying to get at;

1) I never said the GC was dying

2) I don't think it is dying

3) I'm not comparing the GC to the DC in the way you all think I am

4) By popularity, perhaps I'm using the wrong word: I'm just trying to say that the GC is not seen as a cool machine

5) By do a Dreamcast, I'm simply saying that I think in the future, it'll be the GC that'll be most fondly remembered, as opposed to the xbox or ps2.

*continues bashing head agaisnt wall*

Got it? Please say you understand. Please.

PS The only current gen machine I own is a GC. And I have never used l33t speak in my life, except in a mocking manner.

So basically, what you are saying is that you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about?

Nice.

[Lazychu]

Link?

Heres one I found earlier...

http://www.gamespot.com/all/news/news_6086684.html

Nintendo announces that both the GameCube and GBA SP enjoyed strong sales in Europe this Christmas.

Nintendo has today announced that both the GameCube and the Game Boy Advance SP enjoyed strong sales in Europe over the Christmas holiday period. Sales of the GameCube were up a massive 88 percent across Europe compared to the same period last year, taking the number of consoles in Europe to almost 3 million. GameCube software sales were up 45 percent compared with the same period last year, largely thanks to the arrival of Mario Kart: Double Dash!! and 1080 Avalanche.

If they were up 45% on last xmas, then they must have sold around 4 games in total during xmas 2002. Given that according to you they accounted for 4.9% of sales in total.

What a fucking suprise, no actual sales figures in that press release.

45% increase on last years disaster?

Still pretty dire, I'd expect.