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Star Wars Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker (December 2019)

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27 minutes ago, jcafarley said:

Isn’t the early release just the U.S? I had it pre-ordered on iTunes and it’s still not available.

Yeah it's not out in the UK yet. 

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8 hours ago, Pavey said:

This has had an early digital release, and comes with a very good documentary; The Skywalker Legacy. Well worth a watch.

Is there a way to watch The Skywalker Legacy without  having to buy the film? Also does the documentary touch on the film at all?

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I watched this one last night, and it was alright. Did the job it was supposed to for me. The logic holes brought up were no more severe than you'd find throughout the series, and the characters were likeable. Did feel a bit like an attempt to erase Johnson's previous effort in places.

 

I don't hold the series with the greatest of reverence anyway, but I utterly love Star Wars' ability to turn actual human adults into petulant blobs of hyperbole and melodrama.

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On 15/03/2020 at 21:50, the_debaser said:

Just got round to watching this. Absolute shite. AOTC bad. 

 

I prefer AOTC. At least it doesn't feel like it was edited by a crack addict.

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On 15/03/2020 at 16:17, SweatyTravolta said:

Is there a way to watch The Skywalker Legacy without  having to buy the film? Also does the documentary touch on the film at all?

 

It’s on YouTube. I wouldn’t bother though, its a corporate fluff piece. 

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18 hours ago, Dirty Harry Potter said:

 

It’s on YouTube. I wouldn’t bother though, its a corporate fluff piece. 

 

It’s nearly three hours long so it’s a bit more than just a press kit chucked online, and you were never going to get anyone going ‘JJ is a hack, TLJ was shit/misunderstood, prequels were awful’ stuff.

 

Anyway, I’m a Star Wars addict so I’ll happy devour this, love this behind the scenes stuff, and lets be honest, nobody went into any of the films to deliberately do a bad job.  The passion and enthusiasm of everybody involved is obvious.

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3 hours ago, Ivanho said:

 

It’s nearly three hours long so it’s a bit more than just a press kit chucked online, and you were never going to get anyone going ‘JJ is a hack, TLJ was shit/misunderstood, prequels were awful’ stuff.

 

Anyway, I’m a Star Wars addict so I’ll happy devour this, love this behind the scenes stuff, and lets be honest, nobody went into any of the films to deliberately do a bad job.  The passion and enthusiasm of everybody involved is obvious.

Pleased you enjoyed it, but I felt its like a celebration of something massively shit. 

 

I want the real behind the scenes story of: a ticking clock, cut throat corporate infighting, share holders, and sheer desperation - whilst filmmakers and scripts were being throw over board. 

 

That’s the best story (yet) to come out of the Disney era films.

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Watching at home for the second time after the cinema. I enjoyed it a bit last time, but I'm not fooled any more. For example the Knights of Ren, in the cinema I was like 'woah cool, they're gonna be badass' but this time I already knew that absolutely nothing follows it - so this movie has basically revealed itself as a string of 'cool idea bro' scenes, like the Canto Bight bit of Last Jedi over and over. It's just visual noise. The Leia scenes also don't work at all when you realise she is just dropping generic soundbites.

 

I think by the time I get to the 'Lando saves the day' bit I will be actively hating it.

 

At least we have the Mandalorian.

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I actually enjoyed it more watching at home this afternoon. That’s not saying much mind.

 

It’s greatest achievement though is that it’s made me positively reevaluate the qualities of The Last Jedi.

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11 minutes ago, jonamok said:

I actually enjoyed it more watching at home this afternoon. That’s not saying much mind.

 

It’s greatest achievement though is that it’s made me positively reevaluate the qualities of The Last Jedi.

 

There is that. Also it's cured me of star wars, doubt I'll bother following whatever they do with it next.

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I have just finished a Star wars marathon, started Sunday with the fan edit of the prequels and then chronologically through the movies, culminating in this one which I hadn't seen before.

 

I thought it was great! Easily pleased perhaps but I want expecting it to be that good, due to my subconscious picking up the mood of the general zeitgeist, while avoiding outright spoilers.

 

I really liked the main character arcs, thought they all played out well. I've not read this entire thread, but have skimmed through the pages to get a feel for the criticism and can see where people are coming from, but in my opinion having just watched them all in row, it is definitely one of the best ones.

 

Rogue One is probably my favourite of the Disney era still, but they're all pretty good fun (stupid sci fi notwithstanding).

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Just watched this. Nothing prepared me for it. I cheered, I shouted. I fist pumped the air. I cried, I stood and... no, I can’t do this. It was shit.

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2 hours ago, Monkeyboy said:

Just watched this. Nothing prepared me for it. I cheered, I shouted. I fist pumped the air. I cried, I stood and... no, I can’t do this. It was shit.

 

Yeah, I posted in the rate you last watched movie thread. We watched them all, well all the new Disney ones, in order when the lockdown started and this one was by far and away the worst of the bunch. The first one is a fun, if cheeky reboot of the original film. The second was a bit darker and more interesting take on things, with a really good take on Luke imho. This third one is just awful, and doesn't even sit with the other two.

 

I'd like to think that even though I'm older now, there's a part of me that is still 10 years old and is able to watch stuff from that perspective. I'm pretty confident that even 10 year old me would have been distinctly unimpressed with RotS. Quite sad really.

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Looking back, everything with Rey works, everything with Kylo just about works, and most of the Luke stuff works. Everything else is shaky at best, shit at worst. 

 

Anyway, this isn't a Star Wars thread. Disney+ is a bit meh, really. Amazing if you are a kid, or didn't buy all the MCU on physical media like some clowns who won't be named. 

 

I'd cancel but I'm subbing basically for my Nephew. My sis hasn't got a lot of money right now, so they're the primary users. He's enjoying the animated films, and my sister's partner's going ga-ga for Mandolorian, so I'm content :)

 

Edit: ha, I'm a dumbass! This IS the SW thread! 

 

In that case: the best thing about RoS is the Rey/Kylo vergence thing. I like the force healing - unlike some, I've found it weird that it HASN'T been in the films all this time. 

 

Most of the other stuff is gash, although I like Babu Frick and some of the shooty bits. 

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My steel book of this arrived today. I've decided that during lockdown I'm going to watch one Star Wars film a day, starting with The Phantom Menace and working my way up to this. It's been a long time since I've seen the prequel trilogy. I'm actually kinda dreading Attack of the Clones. 

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I have to admit without the shock of some of the bits I hated first time I found a rewatch of this ok.

The weakest of the 3 because it tries to cram so much in and the finale is ultimately a bit flat. (Though the force transference of the lightsaber and subsequent fight is a great moment).

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I forgot to cancel my 4k steelbook and it turned up today.

I’m very conflicted about Rise, I think it’s a terribly shitty film, but I also think that Kylo Ren is one of the saga’s best characters, and Driver elevates every scene he’s in.

 

I find him interesting across the films as he’s a scary, physically imposing character who has violent teenage-like tantrums which makes him wildly predictable and fascinating to watch. I’d imagine he’s exactly what George Lucas had planned for Anakin in the later prequels, but Christian Haydenson was a terrible actor and simply looked like a petulant teenage.

 

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34 minutes ago, teddymeow said:

"They fly now?!'

 

Oh God.

 

That was proper Kurtzman level not giving a shit about what has come before.

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was looking for Duel of the fates on Amazon music when i stumbled apon a remimaged version by a guy called samuel kim - which is just awesome - turns out he has done a lot of his own reimagine star wars music all pretty cool 

 

 

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Didnt like it in the cinema and was physically uncomfortable in my seat with about half an hour to go so ended up hating it.

 

I hoped a home viewing might redeem it slightly.

 

No.

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In hindsight, the new trilogy lost me as soon as they fairly carelessly bumped off Han in the first one. I liked some of what they tried with Luke etc. in the second but this was at least balanced out by the utterly shit parts on the casino planet, super Leia, and various other things. The third one I despised from the frantic opening and much of the way through. I came to the new films originally with a degree of optimism and they got some things right - certainly the visuals throughout, if nothing else - but there are only so many short-sighted decisions, u-turns and plain bad film-making that can be overcome by other factors (not least nostalgia of course, though their desperate reliance upon that was ultimately another sore point).

 

I would be more likely to rewatch some of this trilogy in the future than the execrable prequels (never seen the third and only ever watched the first two once) but that's about as faint as praise gets really.

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Not been in this thread for a while and I am genuinely surprised by the overall feeling towards this.

 

I saw it twice and really enjoyed it - sure, it's not the best of the new trilogy but it's a decent watch.  Comparing it to AOTC - seriously?!

 

Ah well - opinions and all that.  Though I can certainly agree that The Mandalorian is much better than any of the new trilogy.  Loving that.

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Another thought after my first watch over the weekend. I’d read some stuff about Rose being sidelined in this one, but god that was brutal. She actually looked visibly crestfallen that she’d been reduced to a slack handful of lines back at base.

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2 hours ago, Boothjan said:

Not been in this thread for a while and I am genuinely surprised by the overall feeling towards this.

 

I saw it twice and really enjoyed it - sure, it's not the best of the new trilogy but it's a decent watch.  Comparing it to AOTC - seriously?!

 

Ah well - opinions and all that.  Though I can certainly agree that The Mandalorian is much better than any of the new trilogy.  Loving that.

 

Don't fear, you can join the gang. Get the Official 40-Year-Old-Frothing-at-the-Mouth Vocab set for the movie today!

 

FEATURING: "Loathe", "Despise", "Dreadful", "Shit!", "Comprehensively shit!", "Why am I so angry about a series of films that was only ever a mid-range sci-fi romp, devoid of big ideas and  aimed at younger viewers?".

 

Fuck, I don't like Star Wars all that much, and I still like it a ton more than Star Wars fans do. The Mandalorian is good fun, but it's also Monkey/Kung-Fu/Burn Notice with better sets, for the reductive ones out there.

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My copy arrived yesterday but we haven't watched it yet. My daughter's boyfriend is staying with us during the lockdown (long, complicated, boring and irrelevant story*), who likes Star Wars, is one of that crazy age group who grew up with the prequels and so thinks they're great, and has seen TFA but not TLJ. So I'm going to go back and watch at least that one with him before we get round to this. I'm currently pushing to watch all three of the new trilogy on consecutive nights after my previous suggestion of watching Solo -> R1 -> episodes 4-9 was overruled by my wife.

 

*this isn't a review of TROS

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