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2 hours ago, Kevvy Metal said:

 

Which two did you think were pretty good and which two do you think are up there with the originals?

 

I'm guessing - 

 

Up with the originals - The Last Jedi, Rogue One.

Pretty Good - The Force Awakens, Solo.

 

Yes - TLJ and R1 are absolute bangers.

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4 hours ago, K said:

It seems a bit excessive to bin off all the spin-offs because Solo under-performed. I'd say they just need to calm down a bit on the release schedule, and not put out two Star Wars films in five months. Of all the films they've put out so far, two were pretty good, and two turned out better I thought they could possibly be, and were, impossibly, up there with the original films. So from my perspective it feels like they're doing pretty well on the creative side, and I like the approach of putting the Star Wars props and tropes into slightly different genres, they just need to give the films a bit of time to breathe - release one every couple of years rather than annually, and make people look forward to Star Wars. Even Activision realised that you need three years to make a Call of Duty game, and you need to give people at least a year's break between instalments.

 

I'd think the new hope was to actually be able to eventually replicate the Marvel formula, multiple films per year, not to do a George Lucas with the brand and only bring out a new one when you thought you had something you wanted to do creatively. Or at least match Pixar's release schedule, which is what their current release schedule more closely mirrors.

 

 

 

4 hours ago, Treble said:

My hot take on this announcement:

 

A war room will have been set up by  a twitchy Bob Iger, now that they can class Solo's run at the box office pretty much over.

 

I reckon this counsel will ostensibly be about fandom and the failure of Solo but in reality it'll be a justification for cancelling the proposed Rian Johnson trilogy.

 

The side stories will go on hiatus for a bit, but won't go away. The Johnson trilogy will be scrapped completely. As an extra bonus prediction, I think they'll announce Dave Filoni will take over as creative director from Kennedy, who will stay on in an executive/oversight/ambassadorial role.

 

Doubtful, I'd say the 2 new sets of films they are working on are more what this brand needs, brand new stories set in unfamiliar places with unfamiliar people. And neither of those have been reported as being halted in any way.

 

Eventually they could basically go down the Activision route with the Call of Duty brand/the Marvel method, multiple sub-brands releasing a new entry every few years, with at least one per year, assuming they don't kill interest in the brand with botched attempts before they can get to that point. Star Wars as a brand is valuable in part because of scarcity, diluting it by producing more than the average person cares for with merely above average side-story material isn't going to improve its chances of becoming more popular outside of the anglosphere.

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1 minute ago, Kevvy Metal said:

 

I agree. I do also put TFA's up there too, with Solo being the fine and entertaining entry... but that's opinion's and taste innit. 

 

I think if the Kessell Run had been better - it felt weirdly low-stakes, and the black hole space monster was a bit daft - I'd put Solo up there with Rogue One. I really liked almost everything else in the film (apart from the speeder chase at the start, but that was about five minutes total), but that whole Kessell section just didn't have the impact it needed.

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1 minute ago, K said:

 

I think if the Kessell Run had been better - it felt weirdly low-stakes, and the black hole space monster was a bit daft - I'd put Solo up there with Rogue One. I really liked almost everything else in the film (apart from the speeder chase at the start, but that was about five minutes total), but that whole Kessell section just didn't have the impact it needed.

 

I also enjoyed it to -- in fact I'm going to see it a second time tonight, the one bit that made me go "whaaa?" and took me out of the film was the ending and reveal of a certain returning character. I find the deep-cut fan nods like that the be a bit jarring. 

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So they are apparently going down the Call of Duty/Marvel route instead (without the bookend movies I assume):

 

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Jason Ward of Making Star Wars (he leaked the entire TFA plot) says his sources tell him this absolutely is not changing the 1 a year plan. It is just it will revolve around trilogies not one off anthology films. The RJ trilogy and the GOT trilogy are both in active development for example.

 

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I think going down the trilogy route is a better idea, honestly. They need to make sure they have them planned out a la the Marvel phases, with someone in charge who knows the universe and where things are headed.

 

Nothing will please some people of course, but it should make for more coherent films.

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4 minutes ago, mushashi said:

 and Rian Johnson is still making his announced trilogy to replace all the spin-offs only a fan wanted.

 

No. As I said over in The Last Jedi thread there's no way Rian Johnson will be able to make the film.

 

Those of us who liked it are a hell of a lot less vocal than those that hated it. A very vocal group of people who loathed The Last Jedi said they were going to boycott Solo and Solo has taken a massive hit. In the end Disney is beholden to shareholders (who are likely getting letters now from disappointed fans.)

 

For the few of us that liked Last Jedi, enjoy. That's it.

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8 minutes ago, Unofficial Who said:

 

They're pretty much the most influential geek movie critics out there right now.

 

 

Well done them for putting themselves on that platform (sincerely) but I just didn't find that or anything else I've seen of their work funny or insightful. Then again I'm not one for being influenced by YouTube personalities so maybe I just don't connect with it. Still, RLM seems to be Smittys go to defence whenever he's on one and telling us all why we're wrong and I've never found what they said to be insightful.

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Hopefully JJ can do something with the current trilogy after the pile of shit he has been left with in regard to The Last Jedi. I’m not sure anyone could manage to steer a sequel to that in any decent direction. 

 

Star Wars needing a reboot / rethink already is absolutely mental.

 

New Star Trek was the exact same. A very promising first introductory film to get the whole thing going again and then subsequent movies fell off a cliff.

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8 minutes ago, NickC said:

I think going down the trilogy route is a better idea, honestly. They need to make sure they have them planned out a la the Marvel phases, with someone in charge who knows the universe and where things are headed.

 

What is the point of the current Lucasfilm Story Group then? and Kathleen Kennedy is next on the chopping block if that was likely as all this happened under her leadership. People seem to be conflating the rumoured announcement of stopping pointless side-stories set in the existing timeline with other things, who knows how well Rogue One would have done commercially if it wasn't coming off the back of the revival of Star Wars films after a long hiatus, and instead was in the Solo release position.

 

Alice in Wonderland made a tonne of money off the back of the success of Avatar and 3D, the sequel bombed years later.

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Just now, Stigweard said:

 Still, RLM seems to be Smittys go to defence whenever he's on one and telling us all why we're wrong.

 

?????????????????????????????????????

 

This is genuinely baffling, as well as completely untrue. When I think you're wrong I just tell you why you're wrong, I'm kind of infamous for that.

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2 minutes ago, Stigweard said:

Then again I'm not one for being influenced by YouTube personalities so maybe I just don't connect with it

 

 

:lol:

 

Dude, what the fuck does this mean? Humour is subjective, instead of just accepting that you start talking about 'being influenced by Youtube'?

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3 minutes ago, mushashi said:

 

What is the point of the current Lucasfilm Story Group then? and Kathleen Kennedy is next on the chopping block if that was likely as all this happened under her leadership. People seem to be conflating the rumoured announcement of stopping pointless side-stories set in the existing timeline with other things, who knows how well Rogue One would have done commercially if it wasn't coming off the back of the revival of Star Wars films after a long hiatus, and instead was in the Solo release position.

 

Alice in Wonderland made a tonne of money off the back of the success of Avatar and 3D, the sequel bombed years later.

 

Alice in Wonderland also had really bad flat 3D added in post-production though right?

 

There's a pattern. People gave the first Alice movie a shot. Skipped the next one after getting a taste from the first.

 

Same here with Last Jedi and Solo.

 

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26 minutes ago, Smitty said:

 

?????????????????????????????????????

 

This is genuinely baffling, as well as completely untrue. When I think you're wrong I just tell you why you're wrong, I'm kind of infamous for that.

 

I've seen you use them as your back up arguments many a times but I personally don't like their shtick

 

25 minutes ago, Smitty said:

 

 

:lol:

 

Dude, what the fuck does this mean?

 

That I don't subscribe to YouTube influences or take their word as gospel. Unofficial Who said "They're pretty much the most influential geek movie critics out there right now." But if you're (not you, people in general) letting some guys on YouTube influence what you do or don't like then that's pretty sad. I listen to certain movie review podcasts but never once have I let a critic I like influence me on my thoughts on a film, I've disagreed with them plenty of times.

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