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On 19/04/2018 at 08:48, Despin said:

I put most of the logic problems on Krasinski. He completely butchered the original script. Used maybe 30% of it and restructured it entirely. For the record, I think he directed the fuck out of what he was left with. But agree with those who couldn't get past the crappy world building and stupidity of the characters.

Do you have a link to this tale of script development woe or is it anecdotal?

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10 hours ago, Despin said:

Yeah, I'm not sure if there are articles out there. I just read the original draft when it sold last year.

Okay, thanks for letting me know. I'm thinking of writing something about great scripts that got 'lost' in the production process and ended up not what they should have been. The big one that comes to mind is the 'Nottingham' script being defiled by Ridley Scott and Russel Crowe into 'Robin Hood'. Would you happen to know of any others to go investigate?

 

Another thing that really bothered me about A Quiet Place, to the point where I watched the whole credits reel looking for a thank you, was the quite blatant ripping off of 'The Last of Us'. Dystopian modern-day America, blind aliens that click and use sound to 'see', family dynamics centred towards on/off relationship of father figure and teen daughter, the fact the main guy looked EXACTLY like Joel, even the toy being given at the start from one kid to another - it was all litigation worthy as far as I was concerned, and Naughty Dog should have got a thank you.

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I generally find building tension doesn’t really mix with cheap jump scares, once you realise that’s what the film is gonna do  you’re always readying yourself at the expense of a creeping growing fear/dread of the threat. The jump scare is just too much of a tension breaker and was used way too often here. So as an effective horror movie it failed for me, as a silly monster movie there is some fun to be had but overall very average with too much telegraphing.

 

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Best bit was when she puts the newborn baby in the box, but again that would have been much better had they not already set it up earlier.

 

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Entertaining, solid 2.5/5 from me. I would have made major changes:

 

1. No soundtrack score at all . If you’re going to go with the concept then I would have gone all the way. The music really ruins multiple moments, I can imagine at one point it had no music but it was probably forced in by external forces.

 

2. I would have based this in an older time period. Would have made it feel a little less relatable which would have made it feel more creepy I think. 

 

3. The creature design was horrendous. I’d have actually gone with a vague suggestion of a spirit/demon that you never really see.

 

4. No cheap jump scares. There was actually one clever jump scare though, there was a scene that was quite silent (no music had played for a while) and then it suddenly cuts to a scene of loud river fall. It was a natural scare playing with the ‘gimmick’ in a much more natural way. Rather than just throwing a sudden short stab of audio mid scene.

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I just found the premise that there wasn't one scientist on the entire planet that couldn't figure out that creatures based on acute sound detection wouldn't be vulnerable to certain frequencies...:rolleyes:

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2 hours ago, MpM said:

I just found the premise that there wasn't one scientist on the entire planet that couldn't figure out that creatures based on acute sound detection wouldn't be vulnerable to certain frequencies...:rolleyes:

 

There seemed to be no contact with the outside world from what I could remember. Just old news articles on the wall. So personally I bought into them being a part of a community that was out of reach.

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33 minutes ago, Capwn said:

 

There seemed to be no contact with the outside world from what I could remember. Just old news articles on the wall. So personally I bought into them being a part of a community that was out of reach.

 

I meant when the creatures first appeared, that it would get to the point of society breaking down to such an extent as depicted in the movie. That none of the clever people would figure out using sound as a weapon long before that.

 

Anyway, I was probably never really going to like the film as I find Emily Blunt intensely annoying, both on and off the screen, TBH.

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What a pile shit - I thought this was meant to be a great horror film!

 

Let children loose in a shop; leave children behind when they exit the shop; let children just stroll behind them going home; no soundproofing in the house - why not eat in the cellar?; mattress as cover to cellar that the monster conveniently didn't step on even though it trashed the room; nail in the middle of a step for no reason; pulling on clothes caught on the nail when you're not meant to make a sound; then leaving the nail sticking up; not hearing the burst water pipe when leaving the cellar; lid on baby box mysteriously gone because the box floated on the water; monster got down there somehow; sinking in corn one minute but not the next with the weight of the monster on top of them; shouting to attract the monster - just throw something you idiot!

 

Were they meant to be this dumb?

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I think you had to watch it in the cinema for it to work at all. It's a somewhat average film which is elevated a bit in the sound design. 

 

Still, I assume all the really scared people had never seen a horror film before (not that this was even really a horror film, it just had jump scares). 

 

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I was looking forward to this, but found it incredibly disappointing. Didn’t do anything new, just your standard monster movie really, except the characters don’t talk much. The creature design was dreadful, and the effects weren’t great (other than when it goes underwater - was that a physical effect?). Despite the lean running time, I could feel myself getting restless before the end. Ah well.

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Yeah, watched it on a plane alongside Ready Player One, The Commuter, the latest Avengers title and Rampage and honestly in spite of its arthouse horror aspirations it was just as silly as the lot of them but not half as entertaining. 

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On 20/04/2018 at 10:25, Loik V credern said:
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WHAT IS WEAKNESS?!

 

 

Haha, yes. This was awful.

 

Who the hell designs the creatures for these things? They were as bad as the creatures in Stranger Things 2. Forgettable, bland, not scary, and they didn’t look realistic at all.

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It also does that thing where the audience is way ahead of the characters with the hearing aid. It’s just frustrating waiting for them to figure it out too.

 

My wife even called the ending: he would sacrifice himself, but not before signing ‘I love you’ to his daughter. When the ‘I’m going to kill myself to save my kids’ music started playing, we knew that was it :lol:

 

 

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I thought it was pretty good. Went into it knowing nothing about it so I just assumed it'd be another Insidious/ Babadook/ Conjuring type haunted kid type thing so was pleasantly surprised that it was an apocalyptic monster flick.

 

There was some legendarily stupid character behaviour though, the biggest of which was getting pregnant. Priorities, people! :quote:

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2 hours ago, Paulando said:

Unless CGI jump scares are the reason you can’t watch horror films, youll be fine.

 

He'll be fine even if it is, can't really think of any of those in it. A couple of things come close, but they're intended more as the sort "omg!" suspenseful shock rather than an outright jump scare if you get what I mean. There's not much above the level of anything in Signs, basically. 

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Finally saw this last night (with surround sound and everything!) and I feel pretty disappointed. The high praise this film received raised my expectations a bit too high I guess. I expected it to be smarter, tenser, and all around just... better. Many points of criticism have been raised in this thread already, and anything else I could add would just be nitpicking I guess, but suffice to say that I didn't feel anything for the family, I was more annoyed than scared, and sadly it is a lot of the smaller things and moments when characters act illogically or idiotically, that makes it difficult for me to suspend my disbelief. It was an okay movie and I've given it a 5/10. I was somewhat entertained but I'll leave it at the one watch!

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On 07/08/2018 at 15:26, stefcha said:

 

He'll be fine even if it is, can't really think of any of those in it. A couple of things come close, but they're intended more as the sort "omg!" suspenseful shock rather than an outright jump scare if you get what I mean. There's not much above the level of anything in Signs, basically. 

Signs is in an altogether different league

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On 07/08/2018 at 11:01, Darhkwing said:

I really want to see this but over the past few years i find it difficulty to watch horrors on my own! Doesn't help when i don't know many people into the genre.

 

Don't worry, it's not really scary.

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6 hours ago, Illyria said:

Finally saw this last night (with surround sound and everything!) and I feel pretty disappointed. The high praise this film received raised my expectations a bit too high I guess. I expected it to be smarter, tenser, and all around just... better. Many points of criticism have been raised in this thread already, and anything else I could add would just be nitpicking I guess, but suffice to say that I didn't feel anything for the family, I was more annoyed than scared, and sadly it is a lot of the smaller things and moments when characters act illogically or idiotically, that makes it difficult for me to suspend my disbelief. It was an okay movie and I've given it a 5/10. I was somewhat entertained but I'll leave it at the one watch!


I know i'm the one who does this more and more these days, but the simple fact is that for Cinema, the pot is now boiling. We've been sat in the water as the temperature rises and we look at bubbles and go "woah, that's hot". 

When you compare A Quiet Place to The Shining, or Suspiria, or The Innocents, or Les Diaboliques, or even The Others, the Devils Backbone, Wake in Fright, Picnic at Hanging Rock, or The Changeling... or even commercial stuff like The Omen, Nightmare on Elm Street, Halloween etc. You realise how close to death the frog really is.

There's hope. And there is a HUGE audience for horror. As the absolutely masterful Get Out proved. 

It Follows, Paranormal Activity, Blair Witch, Ringu... These movies may or may not have worked for you personally, but they are true horror films. Working on psychological fears and melding them with narratives to create unique experiences. 

I always put porn, martial arts and horror into the same category: Someone comes to fix the plumbing, and they either get fucked, kicked in the face or massacred. And the audience gets the requisite buzz. Horror needs to stop getting ideas above its station with overreaching shit like A Quiet Place, which stands up to about 30 seconds of scrutiny, and dive back into psychology and make more stuff like Possession, Angst, Inferno, Le Orme, Demons, Hellraiser & Switchblade Romance.

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I've never been a big horror fan, there are a few I enjoyed (Get Out) or found genuinely scary (It Follows) but most of the time I find it hard to take any of them seriously. I do think maybe for this Halloween I need to catch up on some of the classic ones!

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4 hours ago, Illyria said:

I've never been a big horror fan, there are a few I enjoyed (Get Out) or found genuinely scary (It Follows) but most of the time I find it hard to take any of them seriously. I do think maybe for this Halloween I need to catch up on some of the classic ones!

Watch Henry Portrait of a Serial Killer and try not to take it seriously

 

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On 17/08/2018 at 09:35, Illyria said:

I've never been a big horror fan, there are a few I enjoyed (Get Out) or found genuinely scary (It Follows) but most of the time I find it hard to take any of them seriously. I do think maybe for this Halloween I need to catch up on some of the classic ones!

 

Me either. I have to watch so many too cause my wifes likes horros (annoyingly the shit stuff) but even the "good" ones like this was meant to be just don't strike a cord with me. I've seen hundreds of them but struggle to pick 5 in the last 10-15 years that I've loved

 

Maybe

 

Get Out

Train to Busan (but it wasn't even the horror elements I enjoyed most about this)

The Descent

Cabin in the Woods (If you can count this as a horror because again, it wasn't the horror I enjoyed most)

 

Paranormal Activity and It Follows have something about them that got under my skin the first watch through though and I liked The Conjuring too.

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