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We both really enjoyed this. The atmosphere of the time was really well evoked and there were lots of memorable bits. The only bit where I lost interest a bit was

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the scene with the little girl on the stoop, when they were both reading as it just dragged early on.

The ending was fantastic though. Was laughing out loud.

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Very surprised at the amount of people that didn’t know about Sharon Tate and the Manson Murders. It’s a defining moment in Hollywood history and if you hadn’t heard of them, then many of the finer points of this film would be wasted on you.

 

Having said that, I’m not sure how I feel about this movie. It feels like Tarantino’s most sedate film in a long time, with none of his usual flare for characters and dialogue. But I did really enjoy it, it just felt a bit unnecessary. And I pretty much love all his other films. I guess a rewatch is in order.

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For anyone thinking of reading up on the Tate murders on Wikipedia before seeing this there is a now a fucking massive spoiler for the movie on that page.

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I re-watched Kill Bill 1 and 2 over the last week because it was a few years since I'd seen them and I fancied some more Tarantino. I thought KB1 was pretty great with some real drama and a great final scene in the House of Blue Leaves. But KB2 was a total mess - the training sequence went on forever and I'd totally forgotten the bits after she gets to Bill and her daughter is introduced. That part just drained all the energy from the film.

 

 

This would be my QT rating:

 

1. Reservoir Dogs
2. Jackie Brown
3. Django
4. Pulp Fiction
5. Once Upon A Time
6. Death Proof
7. KB1
8. Hateful 8
9. Inglorious Basterds
10. KB2 
 

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I enjoyed this. I was waiting for some kind of

Ubik/MulhollandDrive style ending, where the three main characters' real fates start to encroach into this fantasy

but I guess there was no need for that. Some of the voiceover bit near the end, painstakingly detailing the movements from restaurant to restaurant, etc, seemed a bit pointless. I almost tuned out there. Conversely, I thought the scene with the kid was fine! And it added a lot to what came after it. 8/10

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The voice over detailing the movements really ramped up the tension for me.

 

The kid didn't seem like a real person to me, while everyone else in the movie did so it took me out a little. 

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Having seen this, I feel QT's foot fetish has escalated to a point where we need a UN resolution and a co-ordinated international effort to curb his excesses.

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On 22/08/2019 at 11:35, Horribleman said:

Cool. 

 

Our babysitter can't do it now so we are going next week instead. 


plenty of time to read Helter Skelter by Vincent Bugliosi then :D still one of the best books I’ve ever read about the case and was written by the guy that actually prosecuted the Manson Family.

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On 26/08/2019 at 08:26, Silent Runner said:

I re-watched Kill Bill 1 and 2 over the last week because it was a few years since I'd seen them and I fancied some more Tarantino. I thought KB1 was pretty great with some real drama and a great final scene in the House of Blue Leaves. But KB2 was a total mess - the training sequence went on forever and I'd totally forgotten the bits after she gets to Bill and her daughter is introduced. That part just drained all the energy from the film.

 

 

This would be my QT rating:

 

1. Reservoir Dogs
2. Jackie Brown
3. Django
4. Pulp Fiction
5. Once Upon A Time
6. Death Proof
7. KB1
8. Hateful 8
9. Inglorious Basterds
10. KB2 
 

 

I wondered if you put True Romance in there too? I know he didn't direct but he wrote it. 

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Watched this last night and really enjoyed it. It is a strange film in some ways with it's lethargic pace, but I see what Tarantino was doing and I think even more will be revealed on second viewing. A surprisingly funny film in places and some outstanding performances from most of the cast. Was in knots at the Bruce Lee scene and also the obvious scene (which I won't go into). 

 

One thing I would say though about the 8 year old girl scene:

 

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I haven't fully read this thread yet but I see a lot of people seem to think that the scene was pointless. I see it as one of the most important. Di Caprio is the old guard of Hollywood. He doesn't take his craft seriously and comes to work with a hangover, not learning his lines properly. The girl is the future of Hollywood. She aims for perfection and even has pads in her dress (to prepare for the event of a spontaneous fall). Their conversation is as important as the Manson family in the film in that is the transition from the 60's to the 70's and the change of society as a whole. 

 

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On 04/09/2019 at 08:00, Wickedkitten said:


plenty of time to read Helter Skelter by Vincent Bugliosi then :D still one of the best books I’ve ever read about the case and was written by the guy that actually prosecuted the Manson Family.

 

I've listened to the audiobook of this and it's excellent. Almost like listening to a Serial-type podcast. The narrator is great.

 

Back to the film though, I thought it was average at best. The performances were all top notch, as expected given the calibre of the cast, but it lacked the flair and humour that Tarantino usually brings to dialogue. It was as self-indulgent as most of his other films - he really needs an editor, it could easily have been 40 minutes shorter. It relied a lot on the audience having knowledge of the Manson murders.

 

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I liked the way he handled Sharon Tate's character. Her scenes watching herself at the cinema were quite emotional knowing what was (supposedly) to come. But I thought the ending was overly gratuitous, and the film made no attempt to explore any of the motivations behind the killings, or the exploitation of the young women who were caught up in the Manson family, and therefore didn't avoid being exploitative itself.

 

 

 

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I’ve seen this now in cinemas 7 times. That’s crazier than what I did with The Force Awakens.

 

It’s officially beat-out Zodiac as my favourite movie of the 21st century so far.

 

(No, Prometheus doesn’t make the list)

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My aunt does PR for the local cinema chain, I didn't pay 7 times. I have a lot of thoughts circling around that are hard to get down. I'll try to bash out a few paragraphs later in the week, but I've taken away something new with each screening.

 

It's just one of those movies I enjoy sitting in with a fresh audience and you'll never get that chance again. Like the guy on the opposite end of the room who bursts out laughing when the feet go up on the chair and a majority of the room doesn't understand why it's funny.

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On 04/09/2019 at 08:00, Wickedkitten said:


plenty of time to read Helter Skelter by Vincent Bugliosi then :D still one of the best books I’ve ever read about the case and was written by the guy that actually prosecuted the Manson Family.

 

There's a new book out that shits all over Bugliosi and Helter Skelter. Chaos by Tom O'Neill. I haven't read it but I heard the guy on a podcast (fitzdog radio) it sounds very interesting and based on the podcast I heard it isn't a daft conspiracy book (though it does brush up against all that mad sixties shit) the guy is a legit journalist and all his claims in the book are all well documented apparently. 

 

It's top of my reading list. 

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1 hour ago, Raoull duke said:

 

There's a new book out that shits all over Bugliosi and Helter Skelter. Chaos by Tom O'Neill. I haven't read it but I heard the guy on a podcast (fitzdog radio) it sounds very interesting and based on the podcast I heard it isn't a daft conspiracy book (though it does brush up against all that mad sixties shit) the guy is a legit journalist and all his claims in the book are all well documented apparently. 

 

It's top of my reading list. 

I'll have to check it out and see if it actually does then

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On 08/09/2019 at 18:52, makkuwata said:

My aunt does PR for the local cinema chain, I didn't pay 7 times. I have a lot of thoughts circling around that are hard to get down. I'll try to bash out a few paragraphs later in the week, but I've taken away something new with each screening.

 

It's just one of those movies I enjoy sitting in with a fresh audience and you'll never get that chance again. Like the guy on the opposite end of the room who bursts out laughing when the feet go up on the chair and a majority of the room doesn't understand why it's funny.

I dont think anyone thought you paid 7 times. nearly 20 hours watching the same film over a couple of weeks is insane enough

 

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