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But the Cancel out of menus button is the wrong way round. That's on B and not the roll button. It takes a while to get used to.

 

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3 hours ago, grindmouse said:

It’s also incredibly gritty and realistic that as a knight, you cannot swing your sword in narrow passages, it just clashes against the stonework, but all of the enemies you encounter just clip right through. Undead privileges.

Maybe try a different weapon or a different attack. One that isn't a wide swing in a confined space.

 

It just wants you to experiment a bit, maybe stop and think rather than immediately give up and assume it's all rubbish the moment something doesn't work the way you're used to in other games. If you can adjust to that you'll never look back.

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3 hours ago, Mike S said:

I have the online turned off as the messages are too intrusive and a bit world breaking for me so never used any multiplayer features. I made my first serious playthrough at the same time as Davros on here which was great for shared learning and experiences, as well as much needed motivation when it got hard. I considered this thread a sort of inn at which I would hear stories and secrets from those that were out there in the world, or had been through before. It was a damn good few months of gaming...

 

@BadgerFarmer

I played it offline first time when it came out and ended up using forum discussion a lot. If you don't have access to online I think you have to accept that's part of it when you start. I certainly really struggled early on. I've since played a lot more online though, and appreciate that's how it's meant to work.

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I have finished this on the 360, several times over, then the remastered on the xbone, several times over, and now I'm playing it on the Switch. Still love it.

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Began replaying this yesterday. Everything slowly re-clicked, and Undead Burg, which previously seemed like this massive labyrinth of death, was actually a gentle stroll up to the Taurus Demon, who still killed me. The difference is, I never died on the journey to him, and I could make it to him in about 3 minutes from the bonfire. I also managed to make the next bonfire in one piece as well. I'm much more gung-ho in running into enemies to kill them before they can stick me, and I also remember where the bastard knights are. Wonderful, wonderful game.

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This is one of those games, Like Resi 4, that needs porting to every future generation. It's one of those games that you can always dip back into to try new ideas and builds. A console without Dark Souls would be pointless.

 

In my last run I took a completely different path through the game which meant skipping the Taurus Demon entirely. If you've not done that I highly recommend it - just picking apart that route in your head (requires Master Key) about how you'd get from Firelink to the Gargoyles but avoiding Taurus Demon and his entire section is a game in itself. You could feasibly make the Ash Lake Hydra the first boss in the game if you really wanted to make things hard for yourself, then ring the Spider's bell followed by the Gargoyle's bell.

 

Still the best game.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Uncle Nasty said:

In my last run I took a completely different path through the game which meant skipping the Taurus Demon entirely. If you've not done that I highly recommend it - just picking apart that route in your head (requires Master Key) about how you'd get from Firelink to the Gargoyles but avoiding Taurus Demon and his entire section is a game in itself.

 

My guess:

 

Spoiler

Firelink

Lift down to New Londo

Master Key to Valley of Drakes

Run past dragons

Up to Darkroot Basin cave bonfire

*Up Basin path, past Knight

Run past Titanite Demon

Past Andre

Up to Gargoyles

 

* Or instead, at this point could you go from Darkroot Basin, into the watchtower basement, running up the stairs past Havel? Can't remember which side of the Taurus boss that watchtower is...

 

Is there a different route?

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You can open the tower door before the Taurus Demon with it, but then the big knight (Havel?) chases you and he hits hard. Won't go into undead burg proper though, so coud be cheese sniped I assume

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It's amazing how you can walk through this game in your head. I get lost a bit below Blighttown, around Izalith and in the Catacombs/TotG but largely, I can see my way through the entire game in a kind of mental flick book. 

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24 minutes ago, Stanshall said:

It's amazing how you can walk through this game in your head. I get lost a bit below Blighttown, around Izalith and in the Catacombs/TotG but largely, I can see my way through the entire game in a kind of mental flick book. 

 

No waypoints or map makes the layout of the world so memorable. You remember it the same way you do somewhere you've lived.

 

@Nick R - yes that's exactly the route I took, avoiding Havel and legging it past the Black knight. I suppose it's also feasible to farm enough souls to open the forest door and have Sif as your first boss , collecting the ring for the 4 Kings. Is there anything preventing you from the 4 Kings being your second boss in that case? Not that I would ever attempt it. Someone on youutube probably has.

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23 minutes ago, Uncle Nasty said:

 

No waypoints or map makes the layout of the world so memorable. You remember it the same way you do somewhere you've lived.

 

@Nick R - yes that's exactly the route I took, avoiding Havel and legging it past the Black knight. I suppose it's also feasible to farm enough souls to open the forest door and have Sif as your first boss , collecting the ring for the 4 Kings. Is there anything preventing you from the 4 Kings being your second boss in that case? Not that I would ever attempt it. Someone on youutube probably has.

It’s also quite compact, but feels bigger because your first time through is so methodically paced. I still get lost around Darkroot though 

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2 minutes ago, scottcr said:

I'm really really struggling with the demon boss at the bottom of the firey lava volcano area... 

 

Ceaseless Discharge?

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2 minutes ago, scottcr said:

No - Demon Firesage.

 

 

Yeah,  I found him hard but the good news is he's optional. There's a covenant that you can join which opens up a shortcut avoiding him.

 

 

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1 minute ago, Uncle Nasty said:

 

Yeah,  I found him hard but the good news is he's optional. There's a covenant that you can join which opens up a shortcut avoiding him.

 

 

 

ah - tell me more.  I haven't found much use for the covenant stuff - I've probably missed half the depth of the game.  I also really didnt' figure out stats properly until too late and I think my character build is a bit fucked.  I'm mainly cutting about in havel gear with a diamond halberd... I could never figure out magic.  Although I'm keen to start again with another character but would like to see it through to the end with this one after getting so far.

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Havel's Gear? Are you fat rolling? If so that might be why you're having trouble with bosses. Havel's is some of the heaviest gear in the entire game so you'd need to invest heavily into VIT to even be able to walk, it's quite a specialised build. I'd suggest unequipping Havel's and wearing something less tanky and having another go at the boss when you're a bit more mobile - the Gold Hemmed Black Set is a really good option for Firesage (high fire resistance) that you probably looted after killing Ceaseless Discharge - you can also do a suicide run to get it without killing Discharge.

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Firesage does magic damage though but iirc the gold hemmed set has decent magic resist as well. Like with the other variations of the Stray Demon a weapon with bleed effect works very well. 

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26 minutes ago, Uncle Nasty said:

Havel's Gear? Are you fat rolling? If so that might be why you're having trouble with bosses. Havel's is some of the heaviest gear in the entire game so you'd need to invest heavily into VIT to even be able to walk, it's quite a specialised build. I'd suggest unequipping Havel's and wearing something less tanky and having another go at the boss when you're a bit more mobile - the Gold Hemmed Black Set is a really good option for Firesage (high fire resistance) that you probably looted after killing Ceaseless Discharge - you can also do a suicide run to get it without killing Discharge.

 

Cool - I've got that set.  I can give it a try.  I don't have much in the way of weapons, just my tried and trusted hablerd.  It does do a lot of damage though but it's not quick.

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18 minutes ago, Sun Tze said:

Firesage does magic damage though but iirc the gold hemmed set has decent magic resist as well. Like with the other variations of the Stray Demon a weapon with bleed effect works very well. 

 

I picked up a spiked mace to kill the Stray Demon, highest bleed damage in the game I think - can't remember where that was from, though.

 

@scottcr the Halberd might also be putting you at a disadvantage, you need to be getting in close to the demon and closing the distance, otherwise all of his attacks will hit you. Are you carrying any other weapons?

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The Spiked Mace is in one of honest Thomas' secret chests around Firelink shrine. 

Like @Uncle Nasty said, the halberd's R1 attack can put you at a disadvantage as it has a tendency to whiff, especially when facing larger enemies like the Stray Demon, the Sentinels in Anor Londo or the slightly more nimble Darkwraiths from New Londo Ruins. Otherwise it's a very good weapon. Crystal weapon variants degrade quicker then other upgrade paths though so watch out for that. 

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2 hours ago, scottcr said:

No - Demon Firesage.

 

 

I found him a bit tough as well - took me a good few goes.

 

What level are you at? I'd be happy to co-op him with you if we're not too many levels apart - there is a bonfire nice and close that is a decent spot to summon people from.

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53 minutes ago, rgraves said:

 

I found him a bit tough as well - took me a good few goes.

 

What level are you at? I'd be happy to co-op him with you if we're not too many levels apart - there is a bonfire nice and close that is a decent spot to summon people from.

 

ha!  I forgot about summons... it's been a while since I played it as I was finding it too hard at that point and I went to play Witcher 3 instead.

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On 03/12/2019 at 17:43, Mike S said:

I have the online turned off as the messages are too intrusive and a bit world breaking for me so never used any multiplayer features. I made my first serious playthrough at the same time as Davros on here which was great for shared learning and experiences, as well as much needed motivation when it got hard. I considered this thread a sort of inn at which I would hear stories and secrets from those that were out there in the world, or had been through before. It was a damn good few months of gaming...

 

@BadgerFarmer

 

Good times indeed. :wub:

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Read this on Eurogamer the other day. Has an excerpt from the new You Die book mentioned earlier

 

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2019-12-07-tough-love-on-dark-souls-difficulty

 

Some choice snippets we can probably all relate to and some advice/words of hope for our new SunBro converts who haven't quite clicked yet

 

"This type of game design relies upon trusting the player to persevere, to learn from dying and try again, rather than just put down the controller and walk away, and it's baked into every design decision in Dark Souls. Every death presents an opportunity for reflection and improvement. Even the long run back from the bonfire to the fog gate before a boss arena offers an opportunity to contemplate where you went wrong on your previous attempt."

 

"And though some deaths in Dark Souls are unexpected, they're rarely inexplicable and are usually your fault." :P

 

"The environment and enemies always behave in the same way. It's what you do that changes, and the predictability of everything else makes mastery possible."

 

"That physical component to the Dark Souls experience - the sweating palms, the racing heart, the cold, nauseating dread when you fall victim to a little gang of Hollows on your way back to a bonfire and lose 20,000 souls"

 

"Other games are exciting, sure, but I don't think I've ever leaped up and screamed at the television, arms raised in jubilation, whilst playing any other game"

 

 

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32 minutes ago, Hawklord said:

"Other games are exciting, sure, but I don't think I've ever leaped up and screamed at the television, arms raised in jubilation, whilst playing any other game"

 

 


So much this.

 

 

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3 hours ago, Hawklord said:

"And though some deaths in Dark Souls are unexpected, they're rarely inexplicable and are usually your fault." :P

 

 

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The floor above that last picture, gets me every time...full of undead and caster dude, totally my fault for not picking them off :)

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Just ordered a copy of the paperback book mentioned above from amazon. Had a look at the Kickstarter for the hardback, but it was a bit too deluxe for my tastes.

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