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Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom - 2018


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10 minutes ago, parrapatheslapper said:

My worry for the next film following the ending is

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haven't we been there and done that in JP2

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I'd like to think they'd go a lot further with it. I reckon it'll probably be somewhat, or exactly like this;

 

 

Like, kind of post apocalyptic in a way? Planet of the apes but with people trying to survive against the new dinosaur menace. Blue leading one faction, voiced by Andy Serkis, and Pratt leading the other.

 

"I used to live amongst the humans. In their park. They trained me to catch meat. We will teach them what it is to catch meat."

 It ends in a massive battle that the humans only just win because that little girl is part her Mum, part dinosaur, and she turns into a big T-Rex and eats the other T Rex's then it plays the John Williams theme as she does her big roar. "MOTHEEEEEEEER!!!!!"

 

Then a big rousing speech from Goldblum (in his only scene in the movie, clearly shot in an afternoon) in which he says "Life errrr Found a Way... and now we have to uhhhhh rebuild.  This scene will be featured in all of the marketing, obviously, despite being the crux of the whole movie. 

 It ends, a franchise over, credits. 

 Post credits, we see a space shuttle clear the atmosphere. Cut to inside, all looks empty, aside two dead astronauts torn apart in their seats. The camera pulls back to reveal a big Velociraptor toe... and is that... a streak of blue?

 TITLES: BLUE WILL RETURN IN JURASSIC GALAXY:RETURN OF BLUE.

 

 

It'll probably be exactly that. And cost $400 million. 

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8 minutes ago, BitterToad said:

 

I'd like to think they'd go a lot further with it. I reckon it'll probably be somewhat, or exactly like this;

 

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Like, kind of post apocalyptic in a way? Planet of the apes but with people trying to survive against the new dinosaur menace. Blue leading one faction, voiced by Andy Serkis, and Pratt leading the other.

 

"I used to live amongst the humans. In their park. They trained me to catch meat. We will teach them what it is to catch meat."

 It ends in a massive battle that the humans only just win because that little girl is part her Mum, part dinosaur, and she turns into a big T-Rex and eats the other T Rex's then it plays the John Williams theme as she does her big roar. "MOTHEEEEEEEER!!!!!"

 

Then a big rousing speech from Goldblum (in his only scene in the movie, clearly shot in an afternoon) in which he says "Life errrr Found a Way... and now we have to uhhhhh rebuild.  This scene will be featured in all of the marketing, obviously, despite being the crux of the whole movie. 

 It ends, a franchise over, credits. 

 Post credits, we see a space shuttle clear the atmosphere. Cut to inside, all looks empty, aside two dead astronauts torn apart in their seats. The camera pulls back to reveal a big Velociraptor toe... and is that... a streak of blue?

 TITLES: BLUE WILL RETURN IN JURASSIC GALAXY:RETURN OF BLUE.

 

 

It'll probably be exactly that. And cost $400 million. 

 

:lol::lol:  If it's 10% of that I am there day 1!!

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Regards to the possible plot of the third film

 

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There's not many actual dinosaurs that have escaped though. Also very few that are more than two of the same species. So no raptor or T-Rex breeding. It shouldn't take that much effort to round them up and put them on that other isolated island.

 

It's basically stopping Dr Wu and that going with another company and making any more dinosaurs.

 

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The gun that you point at the person you want to kill, with a laser sight to target them in the heart, then instead of pulling the trigger to killthem, you press a button on the side that launches a motherfucking dinosaur at them

 

 

 

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Absolute nonsense, but it understands that’s what it is.

 

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A dinosaur jumps away from a fireball like an action hero. 

 

A dinosaur winks at the camera as it plays a goof on the bad guy.

 

A dinosaur we didn’t even see eats the last bad guy and chases off the dinosaur we did see.

 

Inspired.

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1 hour ago, kerraig UK said:
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The gun that you point at the person you want to kill, with a laser sight to target them in the heart, then instead of pulling the trigger to killthem, you press a button on the side that launches a motherfucking dinosaur at them

 

 

 

 

This guy gets it. 

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Anyone else think...

 

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...those were ridiculously low prices for dinosaurs? I have to assume that every rich wanker's spare yacht costs less than those things did.

 

And they completely botched the BBC News segment, they used all the right clips but it was nothing like the actual channel.

 

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5 hours ago, Alex W. said:

He's one of those actors who seems to understand exactly what tone the movie's going to wind up with, and he's in "Christopher Lee in Gremlins 2" mode basically from the outset.

 

Did you not find his new teeth spectacularly offputting? 

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1 hour ago, Alex W. said:

Wait, are those his actual teeth now?

 

I don't know for certain, but it's definitely a trend in hollywood. Seen the state of al paving these days. He can barely close his mouth.

 

So while I hope not, I fear so

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My review. I know, you can sleep easy now...

 

  • Utterly ridiculous but some of the scenes were fun
  • Very few laughs. Was in a half full cinema and I think I counted 1 titter and 1 jump scare jolt. 
  • I liked both the gothic nature of it and the fact that the final third was set somewhere other than a jungle
  • I liked the gothic horror alien claw shots like through the bars with he girl and in the bedroom
  • The whole auction scene was laughable. I had to try really hard to stifle belly laughs throughout
  • The plot was non existent and what there was of it was totally cliched and contrived to within an inch of its life
  • Seriously it may just have been a series of action sequences. Was there even a plot?
  • The Clone bit with the girl seemed massively pointless (In this film at least) 
  • The nanny getting sent away,  I assume there must be a deleted scene where she appears again. Not that it would have mattered. 
  • 2 bones out of 5. A distraction from the superhero conveyer belt but apart from the styling (from the new director) a lot of it seemed phoned in and old.

 

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4 hours ago, Yiggy said:
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My review. I know, you can sleep easy now...

 

  • Utterly ridiculous but some of the scenes were fun
  • Very few laughs. Was in a half full cinema and I think I counted 1 titter and 1 jump scare jolt. 
  • I liked both the gothic nature of it and the fact that the final third was set somewhere other than a jungle
  • I liked the gothic horror alien claw shots like through the bars with he girl and in the bedroom
  • The whole auction scene was laughable. I had to try really hard to stifle belly laughs throughout
  • The plot was non existent and what there was of it was totally cliched and contrived to within an inch of its life
  • Seriously it may just have been a series of action sequences. Was there even a plot?
  • The Clone bit with the girl seemed massively pointless (In this film at least) 
  • The nanny getting sent away,  I assume there must be a deleted scene where she appears again. Not that it would have mattered. 
  • 2 bones out of 5. A distraction from the superhero conveyer belt but apart from the styling (from the new director) a lot of it seemed phoned in and old.

 

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I loved that the nanny was totally unaware that there were a hundred foreign warlords and a dozen dinosaurs downstairs.

 

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On 05/02/2018 at 12:16, Pelekophoros said:

 

Well, the aspect ratio has definitely changed, but you're right it talks a lot about framing and composition within that changing constraint. Which I think is fair given that the new director, with his new aspect ratio and his inability to provide shots that particularly stand out, has created such a flat looking film judging from the trailer.

 

I have uploaded my earlier screengrabs to Imgur to illustrate my point.

 

https://imgur.com/a/5p5mP

 

On 05/02/2018 at 12:27, Treble said:

 

Basically that the director tinkers with the editing process so much that they end up ruining the flow and cadence of a scene.

 

It's become a very big deal in modern action blockbusters since you can shoot for as long as you like on digital, creating tons of footage from different angles, overloading the decision making process. 

 

Couple that with not being able to hold shots for very long (as it's all cgi so each second costs hundreds of thousands) and you're left with these shots with too much visual detail crammed into the frame, quick-cutting away before you can get a sense of what's going on. 

 

It could just be the way the trailer's cut, but it does look a bit messy and flat to me. 

 

Thanks for these posts guys, I find this topic very interesting as i'm constantly finding that modern big budget films are shot and edited like shit.

 

Treble, that line about not being able to hold shots for very long - what a great observation. You've managed to put into words something that's been knocking around my head for a while. That makes perfect sense and explains the choppiness of so many shots in modern blockbusters. Either its incredibly expensive for every second that the CGI is on screen OR you're trying to hide that your CGI isn't great. Both scenarios encourage keeping your shots as short as possible.

 

I can't remember what I was watching but just recently I had was watching something which suffered from that, and I remember thinking 'fuck me these shots are so quick you can't tell what the fuck is going on'.

 

I was thinking that another element in all of this is the easy placement of cameras anywhere in a scene because they're not real cameras (virtual or digital cameras), right? Nowadays blockbusters tend to have the camera flying around all around the place doing all sorts of bullshit because...well..because they can be made to do that now.

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I really hate the flying camera thing. I guess on one hand, why should you emulate a cumbersome real-life camera? Why not unshackle yourself and the audience from the limitations that it brings? But on the other, it can look so false, and really draws attention to the fact that the entire scene is basically CGI.

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