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1 hour ago, Unofficial Who said:

 

Or it’s possible that once he became romantically involved with her adopted daughter she re-evaluated his relationships with her children and suddenly paid more attention to Dylan’s claims.

 

There were no Dylan claims until a couple of months after the Soon Yi affair exploded. Mia hated him for it (who wouldn't?), the children all knew about it over the summer,  and the stage was set for the claim of child molestation a short while after. The context of when and how it all happened is just 'one more thing' in that long list.

 

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14 hours ago, futureshock said:

 

There were no Dylan claims until a couple of months after the Soon Yi affair exploded. Mia hated him for it (who wouldn't?), the children all knew about it over the summer,  and the stage was set for the claim of child molestation a short while after. The context of when and how it all happened is just 'one more thing' in that long list.

 

 

I don't get how you can look at Woody Allen's ouvre and not conclude that he's creepy as fuck. I mean, just look at Manhattan. He flew to Mariel Hemingway's parents house when she was 17 and tried to whisk her away to Paris! A man in his 40s!

 

He's a creepy motherfucker.

 

To go so far as to put this much effort into defending him?

 

Really odd.

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On 14/12/2017 at 21:19, Benny said:

 futureshock hates women

 

Citation needed, otherwise stop it.

 

17 hours ago, futureshock said:

 

Jesus. Could you be any more of a walking cliché? I'll tell you what, seeing as you're happy to spout slanderous shite like this, you'll have no problem if I address you as Benny the Paedophile from now on, right? 

 

And this isn't an appropriate response to something that was already a bit shit. 

 

Cut it out please, both of you.

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3 hours ago, Isaac said:

Woody Allen's ouvre

 

Did you mean oeuvre? I'm not sure this is the thread for analysing his library of work. Some of the people in here thought Ghostbusters 3 was good.

 

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To go so far as to put this much effort into defending him? 

 

I'm defending the facts of the matter after the same old Vanity Fair article was regurgitated. And besides, it's an interesting story on the whole - for example, Mia Farrow was 18 or 19 when she lost her virginity to Frank Sinatra, who was nearly 50.

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22 minutes ago, Don Rosco said:

So both Frank Sinatra and Woody Allen are creepy as shit? Good point.

 

Well, to be accurate, Woody asked if she wanted to go to Paris and got politely turned down, while Frank actually stuck his dick in it. I'm not sure saying they're both (equal) creeps properly describes the situation, but sure, knock yourself out.

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I think the problem is less with the use of the word "dick" and more that your phrasing is referring to Mia Farrow as "it". You might want to try avoiding that in future if you wish to avoid giving a bad impression.

 

Going back to Allen, Sinatra and Farrow, you can be a creepy fucker without having to actually sleep with anyone. Pestering a girl young enough to be your granddaughter to accompany you to Paris is creepy as fuck, and trying to lessen that by comparing Allen with Sinatra is like that guy who tried to distinguish between sexual assault and "serious sexual assault" for no good reason that anyone could see. 

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56 minutes ago, futureshock said:

I'm talking about body parts. That's what "it" is for. The clue is the word "dick"

 

No, no, no, I'm not being sexist, I wasn't calling a woman it

 

By saying it I was simply referring to Mia Farrow’s vagina.

 

:hmm:

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28 minutes ago, NickC said:

 

No, no, no, I'm not being sexist, I wasn't calling a woman it

 

By saying it I was simply referring to Mia Farrow’s vagina.

 

:hmm:

 

And how do you refer to inanimate objects? Or body parts?

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32 minutes ago, K said:

Hmm. I wonder - I wonder - if the guy who defended Ched Evans, hates feminists, argued at great length that Woody Allen is not a pervert, and had tears running down both cheeks at the prospect of the porn / naked woman review thread being deleted, used the phrase "he stuck his dick in it" in a non-misogynistic way. What could he have meant? It's a mystery worthy of Sir Arthur CL Smooth's Mysterious World.

 

Tears running down both cheeks? Is this like your interpretation of the Alien 3 thread between me and Gorf, where you insisted it was a bad tempered argument when it actually was just two guys laughing about which was the better of two bad sci-fi movies? You need to up your reading skills, K. I never said Woody wasn't a pervert. I never said I hated feminists.

Keep trying, though. You'll get that zinger one day! Come on, tell us what you do when somebody refers to a vagina as "it" - do you scream?

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Seriously, who the fuck refers to a vagina as it? How do I refer to a vagina? As a vagina. Dead fucking hard to do, that is. Can you not see how dehumanising it is to write "stuck his dick in it"? Jesus Christ, man. 

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1 hour ago, futureshock said:

 

Tears running down both cheeks? Is this like your interpretation of the Alien 3 thread between me and Gorf, where you insisted it was a bad tempered argument when it actually was just two guys laughing about which was the better of two bad sci-fi movies? You need to up your reading skills, K. I never said Woody wasn't a pervert. I never said I hated feminists.

Keep trying, though. You'll get that zinger one day! Come on, tell us what you do when somebody refers to a vagina as "it" - do you scream?

 

Why not stop this pathetic line of defence and just own up to it and/or apologise? You’re claiming it’s a perfectly normal turn of phrase when it clearly is not.

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Isn't Futureshock one of the alt-right infesting this board as a supposed lefty? I mean, he'll probably post some 'waaaah' defence that his hate against sexually harassed victims and women in general has been taken out of context, but I'm surprised to see a mod defend him.

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4 hours ago, APM said:

Seriously, who the fuck refers to a vagina as it? How do I refer to a vagina? As a vagina. Dead fucking hard to do, that is. Can you not see how dehumanising it is to write "stuck his dick in it"? Jesus Christ, man. 

 

Your finger is an it, my arm is an it, his shoulder is and it and her head is an it. You can't possibly say the word can't be used with vagina. The entire universe is an it, along with everything that has ever existed and has yet to exist. 

"It's dehumanising." - I agree. To refer to a person like that is dehumanising. The problem is, I wasn't referring to a person. (And to those who are quick to jump up with "Yes you did! Liar!" - no, I'm afraid you don't get to tell me my own mind, but thanks for letting me know you think you're telepathic.)

 

7 hours ago, Talvalin said:

I think the problem is less with the use of the word "dick" and more that your phrasing is referring to Mia Farrow as "it". You might want to try avoiding that in future if you wish to avoid giving a bad impression.

 

I didn't refer to Mia, I was talking body parts, that's why I said "dick". If outrage addicts took it as meaning a person then there's nothing I can do about that. I think it's a pretty sick that some people chose to read it that way.

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4 hours ago, therearerules said:

Isn't Futureshock one of the alt-right infesting this board as a supposed lefty? I mean, he'll probably post some 'waaaah' defence that his hate against sexually harassed victims and women in general has been taken out of context, but I'm surprised to see a mod defend him.

 

3 hours ago, APM said:

Who's defending him?

 

That would have been me, but looking the responses following my original post, evidently I was mistaken in doing so.

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1 hour ago, futureshock said:

 

Your finger is an it, my arm is an it, his shoulder is and it and her head is an it. You can't possibly say the word can't be used with vagina. The entire universe is an it, along with everything that has ever existed and has yet to exist. 

"It's dehumanising." - I agree. To refer to a person like that is dehumanising. The problem is, I wasn't referring to a person. (And to those who are quick to jump up with "Yes you did! Liar!" - no, I'm afraid you don't get to tell me my own mind, but thanks for letting me know you think you're telepathic.)

 

 

I didn't refer to Mia, I was talking body parts, that's why I said "dick". If outrage addicts took it as meaning a person then there's nothing I can do about that. I think it's a pretty sick that some people chose to read it that way.

Oh my god. You're stupider than I first suspected.

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1 hour ago, APM said:

Oh my god. You're stupider than I first suspected.

 

Then I'm in good company, with everybody else seemingly being totally fine with the whole "What, you're fucking my 21yr old daughter? Police! He molested my 7yr old daughter!" timeline against a man with no other public allegations of sexual misconduct against him.

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1 hour ago, futureshock said:

 

Then I'm in good company, with everybody else seemingly being totally fine with the whole "What, you're fucking my 21yr old daughter? Police! He molested my 7yr old daughter!" timeline against a man with no other public allegations of sexual misconduct against him.

 

Dylan maintains the claims.

 

 It goes on for more tweets reiterating her claim.

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And back to Harvey for a moment.

 

https://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/film/99885932/sir-peter-jackson-breaks-silence-on-harvey-weinstein

 



Two Hollywood actresses have thanked Sir Peter Jackson for speaking out about Harvey Weinstein and his brother, saying they orchestrated a smear campaign that led to him blacklisting them both.

Ashley Judd and Mira Sorvino were responding on Twitter to a Stuff story in which Jackson spoke of the blacklist as a result of the actions of accused sexual predator Weinstein and his brother Bob, describing the pair as "second-rate Mafia bullies".

Judd and Sorvino have both publicly claimed Weinstein sexual harassed them, and they both missed out on roles in Jackson's Lord of the Rings films because of what the brothers had said about them.

Judd recalled how she was shown "everything" about the films and was even asked which role she preferred – then never heard from Jackson or his wife Fran again.

Peter & Fran had me in - showed me all the creative, the boards, costumes, everything. They asked which [of] the two roles I preferred, and then I abruptly never heard from [them] again. I appreciate the truth coming out. Thank you, Peter," Judd wrote.

Speaking to Stuff for the first time since multiple sexual assault allegations emerged against Weinstein, Jackson said he had "no direct experience or knowledge of the sexual allegations" against the Hollywood powerbroker, but had earlier made a conscious decision to never work with him again.

Weinstein and Jackson crossed paths in the late 1990s when Jackson was pitching his early plans for The Hobbit and Lord of the Rings films to the Weinstein-led studio Miramax. 

"I recall Miramax telling us they were a nightmare to work with and we should avoid them at all costs. This was probably in 1998," Jackson said.

"At the time, we had no reason to question what these guys were telling us - but in hindsight, I realise that this was very likely the Miramax smear campaign in full swing.  

"I now suspect we were fed false information about both of these talented women - and as a direct result their names were removed from our casting list."

Jackson said Weinstein and his brother, Bob, were both particularly difficult to work with.

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@futureshock clearly has a serious issue with admitting he's wrong, about anything.

 

It's a really human trait, but be brave mate, learn to suck it up and admit you're wrong sometimes rather than act like a threatened animal and constantly double down until you're defending something so indefensible you become a laughing stock.

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