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Race A this week (1995 Porsche 911 at Tsukuba) is brilliant for practising with TC off. That thing goes around if you so much as breathe out while cornering.

 

It's the very definition of "slow is smooth and smooth is fast".

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Actually here's a thing.

 

At times yesterday when the 911 was starting to let go, I found myself instinctively wanting to dip the clutch (but my pedal set doesn't have one).

 

Would that have helped?

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9 minutes ago, beenabadbunny said:

Actually here's a thing.

 

At times yesterday when the 911 was starting to let go, I found myself instinctively wanting to dip the clutch (but my pedal set doesn't have one).

 

Would that have helped?

 

Not really. You could dip the clutch briefly (clutch kick) to actually get the car into a drift, although it's rarely used and I'm not even sure GT Sport supports it well.

 

I think it's more of a reflex from real-life driving, where engaging the clutch is a primary reaction under braking. (And often unnecessary, unless the engine is on the verge of stalling.)

 

You're better off feathering the throttle to keep the drift going and using gradual steering input to get it straight again smoothly.

Or, if you really feel you can't hold it, counter-steer a bit more and slam the brakes - which will cost you time but can help to regain stability.

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Yeah you don't need clutch :) With practice you'll get better at knowing when to lift. You always hope you can just keep the throttle nailed and counter-steer, but often you have to lift at least a bit to get the back-end into line.

 

Ultimately it's about not increasing the throttle until your steering angle is adequately reduced, but it's easier said than done, and when you do over-do it you just have to accept it and lift and lose a bit of time, as the alternative option is spinning :D

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The Aston Martin V12 was great for this at Bathurst, turn 2.  You want to get the power back on as early as possible to carry the momentum up the hill, but too early and the back steps out.  The GTR would spit me backwards into the left hand barrier at that point, whilst with the Aston Martin you can keep the throttle nailed and drift your way up the hill.  Slower, but you arrive at the next corner with a massive grin on your face so it doesn't matter as much :D

 

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Sector 1 of Spa Circuit Experience would be a good place to practice as well I think, bus stop and la source are places you can either gain a lot of time, or pirouette. It's in the 911 RSR too which is oversteery but in the good predictable way

 

I love just repping a small section like that when practicing, esp when it gives you a leaderboard.

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For a change last night, after all that sliding around in the old 911, I thought I'd try one of the Mercedes-AMG F1 races from career mode. Picked the Red Bull Ring because why not.

 

The career events start you at the back, so it's essentially Last-to-First Challenge.

 

I love driving that car in this game. It's so fast, but (without 5G of cornering force to rip your head off) it feels so benign to drive. It's planted, it goes where you point it, it's brilliant.

 

So over the 12-lap AI race, without falling off the circuit once, spinning around at all, or any significant contact apart from the odd wheel-bang, I successfully overtake all the other cars and finish P1.

 

I get a W added to my driver record, a cool quarter million pretend pounds added to the bank, and I feel like some kind of driving superhero.

 

Then I look at the lap times.

 

My fastest lap was a 1:14.

 

Charles Leclerc holds the lap record with a fucking 1:03.

 

I know I'm not a quick driver but honestly.

 

(That 1:03 is a quali lap and the race lap record is a high 1:06, but honestly that doesn't make me feel that much better.)

 

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1 hour ago, beenabadbunny said:

My fastest lap was a 1:14.

 

Charles Leclerc holds the lap record with a fucking 1:03.

 

I know I'm not a quick driver but honestly.

 

(That 1:03 is a quali lap and the race lap record is a high 1:06, but honestly that doesn't make me feel that much better.)

 

The Merc is always down on power there due to the altitude though right? ;)

 

Comparing to my friends list is bad enough, never mind someone who is paid more in a year than I'll earn in a 2 decades / my entire life ;) 

 

 

 

 

On a slightly less slip sliding note, Suzuka Gr.2 qualifying is possibly the most satisfying time trial I've ever done - when you get it right.  

Already beat my Kudos prime target time and my Opt. is not far off 1.5 seconds quicker than my best time :ph34r:

 

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So... I’ve been practicing trail braking and being pretty inconsistent with it. Since I got the wheel I’ve felt there is something not right about the pedal set up, like there is too much travel on the (not adjustable) pedals for me. The ball of my foot having to move too much between 0 and 100% on the pedals.  
Anyway, I’ve been watching review videos of load cell pedals wondering if that’s what I need to get more feel, and noticed a lot of racers raise the pedals.


As my playseat challenge folds up, the pedal section can lift so I thought what can I stick under it to try, to see if that’s the answer.
I looked all over the house for something sturdy even starting to think how I could make something up, then I found the answer, literally 3 foot from my pedals (the triforce lamp in the photo usually sits on) this old ammo box since I was a teen.

 

This might sound ridiculous, but pedals raised and suddenly it feels so much more natural. This is how I want to sit when I’m driving! I feel like I have so much more control of the brake and throttle, I’m amazed!


Now I just need to figure out how to DIY a solution that will stop me from projecting that ammo box through my glass tv stand :lol:
 

 

 

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Maybe driving a vauxhall insignia for 4 years has ruined me? Like sitting on a very slow church pew while stiring a gearbox full of porridge. 

 

I'll stick to the pad for now....

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12 hours ago, Freeman said:

So... I’ve been practicing trail braking and being pretty inconsistent with it. Since I got the wheel I’ve felt there is something not right about the pedal set up, like there is too much travel on the (not adjustable) pedals for me. The ball of my foot having to move too much between 0 and 100% on the pedals.  
Anyway, I’ve been watching review videos of load cell pedals wondering if that’s what I need to get more feel, and noticed a lot of racers raise the pedals.


As my playseat challenge folds up, the pedal section can lift so I thought what can I stick under it to try, to see if that’s the answer.
I looked all over the house for something sturdy even starting to think how I could make something up, then I found the answer, literally 3 foot from my pedals (the triforce lamp in the photo usually sits on) this old ammo box since I was a teen.

 

This might sound ridiculous, but pedals raised and suddenly it feels so much more natural. This is how I want to sit when I’m driving! I feel like I have so much more control of the brake and throttle, I’m amazed!


Now I just need to figure out how to DIY a solution that will stop me from projecting that ammo box through my glass tv stand :lol:
 

 

 

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Bravo, getting the pedals in the right place for you is utterly essential imo. I now drive barefoot, with my feet resting directly on the pedals - no reaching for them even slightly. I don't need to stamp on them anymore.

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10 minutes ago, mexos said:

 

Bravo, getting the pedals in the right place for you is utterly essential imo. I now drive barefoot, with my feet resting directly on the pedals - no reaching for them even slightly. I don't need to stamp on them anymore.

 

As I was messing about with it, it felt a little silly (not all cars are the same shape etc), but it just feels so much better now.

The CSL Elite pedals have quite a long range of movement, and I felt I had to move my heel a lot, and stretch my ankle / leg more than was comfy.  With them angled up, it effectively reduces the angles and puts it more in sync with the range of familiar pedal movement with my foot, allowing a single fluid movement from 0-100% range.

I guess realistically, they are upside down, but I don't really have the space (or equipment) to invert them! 

 

I tried socks racing, but it wasn't working for me, in part because my games room is quite cold.  I do have shoes for fun driving though and have worn them from the off (Puma speed/drift cats) which help set the scene.

 

Of course I'm now spending way to much time trying to figure out how to modify my set up :D

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The thought of pounding round Suzuka in one of those had no appeal this week, and the other choice was a Peugeot special. I'm not quite that dead inside, yet.

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1 hour ago, marsh said:

The thought of pounding round Suzuka in one of those had no appeal this week, and the other choice was a Peugeot special. I'm not quite that dead inside, yet.

on a controller, yeah for sure. Been a blast on the wheel though, medium tyres! plus trading hundredths of a second with pimp has been interesting.

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Race C was the pick of the bunch. I just couldn’t get in a groove to go any faster on this combo, some quick times on this leaderboard , amazing turn out

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45 minutes ago, Junker said:

Race B was Gr4 round Red Bull Ring, but RCZ has a massive speed advantage so was a bit of a one make cup

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42 minutes ago, Junker said:

Race C was the pick of the bunch. I just couldn’t get in a groove to go any faster on this combo, some quick times on this leaderboard , amazing turn out

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Ooh fastest in a non-standard car choice in both B & C, I'll take that ^_^

 

(Though I'm sure someone else would have claimed that but moved to the RCZ/GT-R and went even faster)

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I didn't get much more driving time in this past week but I feel like I learned a lot about no-TC driving from that 90s 911. Will be going back to that car/circuit combo for sure, even now that the weekly races have rolled over.

 

What's tonight?

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10 hours ago, Junker said:

Yep. 1:04.595 - Your move...
 

 

The finest of margins! I nearly cracked the top 1000 by region, guess I need to start pulling those late night qually shifts on a sunday night again.....?

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10 minutes ago, beenabadbunny said:

What's a good Gr3 car around Interlagos that isn't the R8? I feel like I shouldn't just drive the RSR all the time.

 

The GT-R is good everywhere because of its straight line speed, good for overtakes on the main straight at Interlagos. To me it's harder to drive than the R8 though.

 

It's hard to beat the RSR :)

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