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16 hours ago, ryodi said:

Buemi has not had a good weekend.  Who is the US guy in the commentary that Franchetti and the English commentator barely acknowledge?

 

Bob Varsha, he's normally not in the room with them, he's really just there to link and introduce for the US network.

 

He's actually a very, very good commentator being underused badly here.

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When a milk float has a top speed of 5mph you'll probably be ok.

 

They've almost got away with it, although they could have had a screen such is the speed they travel and the likelihood of flies bouncing off the aero rather than coming to grief on it.

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Will they still need to still swap cars during a race? Will they still look like they are doing about 45mph full chat? Will the cars still shake about looking like they made of balsa wood? Are they racing on any proper circuits this year or the same noddy street crap?

 

I'd rather watch the upcoming Tesla Model S series. Formula E still feels a bit A1 GP. A bit forced and a bit crap.

 

Electric is the future for sure, no getting away from it. But watching Formula E makes me think an proper electric formula car series is still many years away. 

 

 

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A) Nope, stop-free races incoming!

B) Apparently the new one can do up to about 185mph. A much-needed boost because they do look a bit pedestrian right now.

C) Hopefully not :lol:

D) Circuit layouts currently being used are kind of there to disguise the lack of top-end speed. If the new car is much more rapid they'll probably spread to better/proper circuits.

 

The series is doing okay. Just watched the Chile race and it was quite fun, although the circuit didn't really promote overtaking. I think in comparison to A1 GP, Formula E is picking up momentum rather than losing it, and it's got some proper drivers in there too. Buemi and Vergne should really still be in F1. Rosenqvist is excellent, Lotterer has a superb pedigree and Piquet, Lynn, Bird and a few others are handy.

 

The new car is pretty important to the series and how they deal with the increased speed in terms of circuits used. Also, one of the main reasons for the inner-city street tracks is to promote the tech and the series right in the heart of big cities. Since its inception it's been running like a giant globe-travelling loss-leading circus; now it's got to move on to actually being a proper 'thing' that makes money and has cars that actually look genuinely quick. Getting in crowds for free who are interested in it as a novelty or something a little different is one thing; convincing diehard motorsport fans to climb on board and support the series is the next step. Won't be easy.

 

A few broadcast things remain that annoy me. Stop playing bloody music during the warm-up lap and every bloody replay, it's crap. Not sold on Fan Boost either.

 

Anyway, after 14 years of F1 service and collecting himself a number of world championship team member honours, my chum has decided to move on for a new challenge in the sport. Time for an avatar update (and hence my newly-found interest in the series).

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Formula E making a big step forward at about the same time as we lose Formula 1 on terrestrial tv might give them a welcome audience boost. If they can get some recognised tracks in the mix as well......

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That's one thing that's a handy point.

 

After 10 years of being with Sky, I cancelled my subscription this week fully knowing it'd mean for the first time in... well, ever for me I won't be able to watch Formula One live (discounting streams etc). Previous years I've thought about it and ended up keeping it because I really didn't want to do that, but this year I realised I finally don't care enough about F1 anymore to justify the cost.

 

Problem for F1 is that they are so tied in with their big pay-television deals that they won't be able to offer a proper online subscription service for most countries in Europe (i.e. their main market) because it'll be a conflict of interest with their agreements with Sky and the like. The other problem is that they keep running around in circles wringing their hands and discussing what needs to be done to 'fix' the sport and yet they never seem to tackle the above at all.

 

Sky for F1 is doing what Sky did for cricket; provide excellent quality programming that, as the years go on, is watched by fewer and fewer people as the sport slides away from mainstream consciousness. F1's audience has shrunk from about 600 million worldwide to about 350 million worldwide inside a decade. In today's world, though, I don't think free-to-air is necessarily the key. They (and Formula E) need to provide easy, relatively cheap access to their products online. Free races broadcast on Twitter/YouTube now and again. Things like that. Formula E kind of does that now, but regional blackouts still happen most of the time.

 

F1's still the market leader and the pinnacle, but the more they sit on their hands and spend time doing things like banning grid girls and making regulation changes to allow bigger exposure for sponsors, the more other series could steal a march and beat them to the post. 

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F1 live streaming service allegedly starting up soon. Will Buxton to front it I hear. Not in U.K. at first but that's what a vpn is there for. I have access to sky but I'll certainly try it.

 

Don't think a Model S would do it but a Roadster (new) with a GT aero package and slicks probably would.

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Is this thread still used for Formula E, or is it happening in another?

 

Really interesting article about the battery from gen 1 cars. I haven't been a regular viewer (that'll change with season 5, this December) but had no idea that there was only one battery per driver per car, for the entire season. I figured they were way more disposable than that. Really positive for EVs in general.

 

https://jalopnik.com/just-how-far-can-you-push-an-electric-car-battery-1827929360

 

@choddo one for you, as the forum's Captain EV :)

 

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Yeah, the announcement of those cars was pretty much my "wtf aren't I watching this all the time?" moment. Plus I want to give them the ratings to make sure we forge ahead with EV innovation.

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Look at the size of that diffuser! :wacko:

 

Still, refreshing to see a different shape of car, and one that isn't designed with 50 winglets coming off of every possible angle!  Nice clean, flowing design.

 

If they can make F1 with the driving and action quality of F2, it'll become a hit.  Get cars that can follow, and close racing, that's what people want.

 

Now, I just have to remember to erm, find out when it's on and how to watch it!

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If I remember correctly, the huge wing of an F1 car is great for engines which can overcome the drag (which an F1 can, obviously) to make the tremendous down force, but that's not optimal for these EVs. Also, an F1 wing creates turbulent air. That split rear wing on the gen 2 car doesn't, so hopefully we'll see much closer drafting and overtaking.

 

F1 cars just look like a computer determined that this specific 2 inch square chunk of air needs another wing, so they added one. Doesn't matter that it's hanging off the wing mirrors and looks absurd. Every aspect of the cars just look like that now. Somehow, gen 2 Formula E still looks like it was designed by people, if you see what I mean. I'm probably talking crap :)

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Is a lot of the F1 aero to do with trying to get the air over the open wheels which are a nightmare for drag, because the top of the wheel is doing twice the speed of the car? Formula E they seem to be pushing the "open-wheel" name quite a lot.

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BBC got the rights to the coming season. Though not on the main channels. It's on the BBC Sport website, iPlayer and the red button. They do say at least one race will be on one of the normal channels.

 

But, separate from the BBC deal, Formula E themselves will also have all the races live on Youtube.

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