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51 minutes ago, PK said:

Is Split any good?  I'd never heard of it until seeing this news, absolutely loved Unbreakable.

 

Its fine. McAvoy is very good in it but like all Shyamalan films post-Signs it really doesn't 'look' very cinematic; all his stuff looks like it's made for TV now.

 

 

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I found the expanded universe bollocks undid Split for me. The film seemed to just chuck out its themes and the ending it was building towards just for a cheap 'aha' reveal. As if Shyamalan was set to start filming and caught a Marvel after credits scene on his flight to the set and thought 'Gotta get me in on that racket!' and ripped up the last 3 pages of the script.

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It was like he didn't trust the film to work on it's own so by linking it in with one of his good/popular films he made it impossible for people not to talking about the film. The film was ok, I didnt particularly like it that much

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Split doesn't really work on it's own as it isn't anything really special until that reveal when you just realised you've watched a realistic origin story of a villain which makes it far more awesome.  

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22 hours ago, Stigweard said:

It was like he didn't trust the film to work on it's own so by linking it in with one of his good/popular films he made it impossible for people not to talking about the film.

Nope it was all planned.

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Good grief, the last scene in Split is atrocious.

 

McAvoy was pretty great in it though, so maybe there's hope for this yet.

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2nd bump after  watching split, managed to avoid spoilers. Firstly unbreakable is one of my favourite movies, I love its sombre tone and slow build up "they called me mr glass" still gives me chills.

 

now we have the best origin movie ever. The thought of these three sharing the screen in the same film has me hyped. 

 

Quote from the split thread, some

good shit in this...

 

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So Bruce Willis popped up at the end of the movie as the character David Dunn.  A good majority of moviegoers probably had no idea it was the main character of a previous M. Night film made almost 2 decades ago.  But I knew, and I flipped out because I love Unbreakable.

 

Anyway.. the movie seemed to have zero ties to Unbreakable, other than the Dunn cameo at the end.  Or so I thought....

 

Think back earlier in the film, when one of Kevin's alters was buying flowers at a train station.   I believe the flowers may have been for Kevin's father, who died in a train wreck. He mentioned earlier in the film that his father went on a train and he never saw him again.  This has to be the train that wrecked at the start of Unbreakable.  The one David Dunn was also on.  This is why Kevin leaves the flowers on the train station platform.. it must've been where he and his mom were supposed to meet his father but never did.

 

As for some of his alternate personalities:

 

Perhaps at a young age, his mother was somewhat abusive to him.. but something happened to cause his mother to be more abusive toward him.  His father's death.  Maybe something happened that eventually either had him institutionalized or put into an orphanage, such as his mother's death.  It could explain why his Patricia personality acts a bit like a stereotypical Nun.  His Dennis personality developed because his mother used to abuse him for making messes, so he developed a personality with OCD to prevent messes.  Hedwig possibly developed to maintain his innocence as a child, after all of this trauma.  This could also be why Hedwig can enter the light whenever he wants.  He could be one of the earliest, if not the earliest, identities, and his innocence doesn't bog down his thinking so he can just takeover whenever he pleases.  Barry eventually developed when Kevin realized he couldn't force himself to put his life together, or seek help about his DID.  So Barry essentially took charge as someone with aspirations of having a better life.  This explains why he is obsessed with being a fashion icon.

 

The Beast:

 

They said he worked at that Zoo for about 10 years, and must've lived underneath the facility for about the same time.  The beast was a personality that developed based on the animals at the zoo.  Possibly because they are tough, and Kevin is weak, and getting weaker.  I want to suggest that the beast became one of his personalities sometime before September 18th, 2014.  The time that Kevin went to "sleep" in his mind, and the other horde personalities took over.  The beast must be caged, and can only access the light if offered something to feed on.  And feeding makes him stronger.  Explains why he only killed Ms. Fletcher and didn't eat her.  She wasn't given to him by the other personalities as a sacrifice. 

 

The girls.  It was only supposed to be the two girls, and not Casey.  The two girls had never suffered and they were impure because they caused suffering.  In a conversation with Dennis (Faux Barry), Ms Fletcher mentions that an incident occurred at the Zoo where two school girls forced him to touch their breasts, and laughed it off.  I believe these are the two girls that were kidnapped, and poor Casey was just in the car at the time.  This is why Dennis directed his attention at just those two girls, when he was kidnapping, and why Casey was an afterthought. She wasn't supposed to be there.

 

He stalked the two girls for about four days, and he considered them impure based on their lack of suffering due to their privileged lives.  When he sees Casey's wounds/scars, of obvious physical abuse, he can no longer kill her, because she is pure, because she has suffered like he did.

 

Sequel:

 

I think the sequel will see the return of David Dunn and Mr. Glass.  Hard to say who Mr. Glass will side with, considering his intention in the end was to find a true superhero.  He unfortunately also created a supervillian known as The Horde.  Kevin's dad died on that train wreck, a wreck Mr. Glass caused.  Leading to the events of Split.  So either guilt will fuel him to help Dunn, or he'll try to help this villian he's created to fight Dunn, since they share similar traits.. both being "unbreakable".

 

I hope we get to see a couple new personalities from Kevin/The Horde.  Maybe see what Dunn's son and wife are up to.  It's also possible that Casey will make a return, potentially as an ally to David Dunn.. I mean, she knows how to use a shotgun and she's got a strong sense of danger.

 

All in all, I'm really looking forward to it.. so I hope M. Night doesn't mess it up, because so far it's perfect.

 

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Synopsis - Glass is confirmed as the final part in a trilogy (Unbreakable, Split) as opposed to be the start of a cinematic universe - 

 

Spoilered for those who haven't seen Split - 

 

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Following the conclusion of Split, Glass finds Dunn pursuing Crumb’s superhuman figure of The Beast in a series of escalating encounters, while the shadowy presence of Price emerges as an orchestrator who holds secrets critical to both men. This riveting culmination of his worldwide blockbusters will be produced by Shyamalan and Jason Blum.

 

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Well Unbreakable was good, Split was good so I can only hope. 

 You’re not going to do that “I make films for a living - this will be absolute trash” thing you do are you?

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1 minute ago, Mortis said:

Well Unbreakable was good, Split was good so I can only hope. 

 You’re not going to do that “I make films for a living - this will be absolute trash” thing you do are you?


I think that's a little cheap. I was simply referring to M Nights hit ratio in the last 15 years. Split is the first entertaining movie he's made since Signs. 

I LOVED Unbreakable (Hell, I worked on it. Sorry, couldn't help that one) and I really enjoyed Split, so i'm a cheerleader for this. I just don't have a lot of faith. It feels like cynical marketing opportunity to me rather than clever foreshadowing.

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Or you could wait till it comes out - maybe M Night has found his mojo again and it’ll work as a trilogy.

 If not you can tell us all why it’s garbage and how you’d have made a better film. 

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1 hour ago, Mortis said:

Or you could wait till it comes out - maybe M Night has found his mojo again and it’ll work as a trilogy.

 If not you can tell us all why it’s garbage and how you’d have made a better film. 


I asked a question and you responded by being a twat. Nice one.

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6 hours ago, Mortis said:

Well Unbreakable was good, Split was good so I can only hope. 

 You’re not going to do that “I make films for a living - this will be absolute trash” thing you do are you?

 

R-O-N-G wrong.

 

Unbreakable was laughably bad. 

 

Split was unbelievably bad. 

 

I'm not sure I've seen a shyamalangadan film that isn't complete knobrot.

 

Just thought I'd share my tuppence, like.

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I didn't mind the one in the lift particularly.

 

Although clearly it didn't leave much of an impression as all I can remember is the lift and someone being the devil?

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I really liked Unbreakable but wasnt that impressed with Split at all (bar Mcavoys perfrmance), everyone in it was super dumb. When he ran off to get the other girl why didn't the other two escape though the vent? Why didn't they break the mirror and use the shards as a weapon? The end felt completely tacked on too. 

 

"This is like that guy they put away in the wheelchair 15 year a ago, they gave him a funny name too"

 

"Mr.Glass"

 

How is it the same, other than the press gave him a name too? It felt so contrived and such a weird thing for someone to just say out loud. 

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