Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny - James Mangold Directing - Summer 2023

[glb]

In!

 

This looks like it could be rather excellent. And that theme again in full-on Dobly? IMAX me up ‘Mukkers.

[James Lyon]

Dial of Destiny? It's got a nice ring to it.

[Captain Kelsten]

Maybe Tenacious D will turn up. 

[jonamok]

Hopefully this Dial goes to 11.

[jonamok]

6 minutes ago, Captain Kelsten said:

Maybe Tenacious D will turn up. 

This isn’t going to be the greatest Indiana Jones film. This is clearly a tribute.

[Monkeyboy]

Looks like a lot of CGI. 

[Pelekophoros]

The "de-aging" could be ok, it's really going to be what it's like in motion that makes or breaks it. It's all good having Indy tied to a chair, but what about when a 1 million year old Harrison throws a punch? There are some aspects of getting old you just can't CGI, and the effects on movement are one of them.

 

That said; this looks cracking. That said: Crystal Skull cut a good trailer too.

 

Cautiously optimistic. 

[mexos]

PLEASE be good. If Maverick can do it... 

 

It is a lot of CGI though.

 

Crystal Skull has to be my most disappointing cinema experience ever. Time for a redemption arc!

[scottcr]

120 year old Ford still chucks a punch better than practically anyone in the business. He’s always been Hollywoods Greatest Puncher.  Clint Eastwood second.

 

the reason is that Indy fights erratically, constantly on the edge of defeat and often getting out of scrapes through sheer luck and HF does that so convincingly- even in Crystal Skull.

 

[Hanzo the Razor]

16 minutes ago, scottcr said:

120 year old Ford still chucks a punch better than practically anyone in the business. He’s always been Hollywoods Greatest Puncher.

 

 

And punch taker. Nobody gives out or takes a movie kicking like Harrison Ford. Some of the fights in the first three films are still wince inducing at times.

[Loik V credern]

Poor de aging when Ford is on the horse but I guess all that will be worked on until release. I think Mangold's directing of chase scenes in Knight And Day was as well shot and real of any modern action film, oblivious use of cgi, but here it does seem noticeable. But again..early. 

 

By far the best de aging I've seen was in Terminator Dark Fate, I haven't looked at the studio responsible compared to others, I've come to assume it was just so brief that's why it worked well.

[scottcr]

1 hour ago, Hanzo the Razor said:

 

And punch taker. Nobody gives out or takes a movie kicking like Harrison Ford. Some of the fights in the first three films are still wince inducing at times.

 

absolutely - proper street brawler, and always looking for a quick escape.

[Loik V credern]

4 hours ago, Pelekophoros said:

The "de-aging" could be ok, it's really going to be what it's like in motion that makes or breaks it. It's all good having Indy tied to a chair, but what about when a 1 million year old Harrison throws a punch? There are some aspects of getting old you just can't CGI, and the effects on movement are one of them.

 

I don't know why they don't get another actor to do the movement, maybe that's harder, maybe they do do that sometimes. The Irishman is obviously the worst example of stiffness and looking like a videogame. Also, they don't actually look young, just less old. 

 

Ford has distinctive punch throwing for sure. 

[Pob]

Apart from the de-aged Ford in the flashbacks and the underwater eels I can't see that much which is obviously CG. One thing I've learned from watching so many Corridor Crew videos is that modern stunt and camera work is so smooth and fancy that it often ends up looking CG.

[scottcr]

7 minutes ago, Loik V credern said:

Poor de aging when Ford is on the horse but I guess all that will be worked on until release. I think Mangold's directing of chase scenes in Knight And Day was as well shot and real of any modern action film, oblivious use of cgi, but here it does seem noticeable. But again..early. 

 

By far the best de aging I've seen was in Terminator Dark Fate, I haven't looked at the studio responsible compared to others, I've come to assume it was just so brief that's why it worked well.

 

I thought the shot of Indy sitting oo the chair, obviously captured by the Nazi's looked amazing 

[Capwn]

I would have been a good script writer for this;

 

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Indy's (IndianaJones) hat falls off as he slides under a closing doorway.

 

Woman "Are you gonna get that?"

Indy (Indiana Jones) "Nah, too old for that shit, I'll buy another"

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[Alex W.]

Can’t get past how obviously Glasgow that city is.

[Ork1927]

I liked the look of that a lot, but without the proper version of the score then it missed the mark a little bit and I'm also not allowing myself to get too excited about it as I'm day 1, but I'll be gutted if it is really shit.

 

But the final scene in the trailer drew a smile so it is already better than the one that must not be named.

 

 

[Alex W.]

Taking a song that’s a march and playing it slowly isn’t so much portentous as sluggish right?

 

Edit - Seriously though it’s got Mads in it so I’m in day one.

[PK]

10 minutes ago, Alex W. said:

 

Edit - Seriously though it’s got Mads in it so I’m in day one.

 

Yeah exactly. A mad Nazi commandant-scientist-cultist in an Indiana Jones film is the role he was born to play.

[monkeydog]

On 02/12/2022 at 11:23, Loik V credern said:

By far the best de aging I've seen was in Terminator Dark Fate, I haven't looked at the studio responsible compared to others, I've come to assume it was just so brief that's why it worked well.

 

Miller talked about Dark Fate on Corridor Crew and how they did benefit hugely from it not have dialogue.  Think those were ILM shots.

 

This is what Disney research have been up to on ML aging/deaging for the curious.

 

 

[Barnard]

14 hours ago, Monkeyboy said:

Looks like a lot of CGI. 

 

My brain can't ignore the CG humans janky animations or lack of reaction to the elements when watching. I wish it would.  😭

[Simmy]

It looks shite.

 

As soon as the plinky plonky slow piano reworking of the original epic theme came in I immediately thought back to that semi- recent Ghostbusters reboot

 

Half of it looks like a computer game too. Ugh.

[makkuwata]

It’s John Williams’ final score! 

[mash]

I'm a sucker for all things Indy. I even liked KOTS. Day One.

[robotattack]

4 hours ago, Loik V credern said:

Poor de aging when Ford is on the horse but I guess all that will be worked on until release. 

 

That's not just de-aging, it's a face swap. Harrison's stunt double stood in for him when they were filming in Glasgow. Reports at the time said Harrison wasn't on set because he was recovering from a shoulder injury. 

[Stig]

Hes not de-aged on the horse, that's old Indy. So it's more likely down to the face swapping that makes it look a little off.

[Pob]

Aren't those scenes where he has white hair all 'current age' Ford? So standard stuntman + face replacement rather than de-aging.

[Dirty Harry Potter]

Ford pulls the most endearing confused face in cinematic history (for me atleast).

[Down by Law]

Bit too much weightless CGI for my liking and just play the damn music at the original speed but other than that? I'm optimistic. Really hoping, genuinelly hoping it will be good.