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10 minutes ago, Jamie John said:

I wouldn't describe it as 'ultra-violent' as that suggests it revels in the violence it portrays.

I dunno, there’s still a visceral thrill to watching some dog that has been stalling your progress for ten minutes turn into a cloud of mince. I’d say the violence is oppressive and realistic, but so far, it’s nothing that would make an average 80s movie flinch.

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To be honest, the bit that made me wince the most was shown in the first main trailer for the game. 
 

Hammer time.

 

 

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1 hour ago, joemul said:

So how do you do that backward slide?

 

hold circle to go prone as you're moving backwards. You can also run forward, hold prone, then spin the camera 180 to jump and land on your back.

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I am pretty much at the end and to be honest have probably had enough, as its starting to feel abit bloated now. Wasn’t a fan of the walking simulator bits and some hokum story elements, but the urban exploration, set pieces, gameplay mechanics and superb graphics/more than make up for it. Still would give it a 9/10.

Be interesting to see what they do with the ps5 version; I think there is huge scope for huge technical improvements- here’s hoping for a 4k (or as close to possible) presentation, 60 FPS, with more detail in draw distances/more FOV options. Infact I hope the extra grunt tidies up a few of the effects, as the some flowing water and foliage movement looked abit ropey at times, along with some lower res assets. I am beginning to think they insisted on the grain filter into try and disguise certain limitations.

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I'm trying to decide whether I should replay the first game, for the first time in 5 years. Finishing this incredibly impressive sequel makes me want to replay the first, but I'm not sure if the gameplay would feel like an irritating step backwards.

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Spent near enough a week thinking about the game after completion and think my main gripe is

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some of the incredible moments between Dina and Ellie never seem to be replicated. It ends totally flat with no hint of where Ellie is going or the point of the whole journey.

 

Just some bit of optimism in a character who basically turned out to be quite a monster would have really changed my feelings, its basically a really depressing experience that never lets up.

 

 

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10 hours ago, Majora said:

I could understand someone preferring the story of the original but worse across the board? You'd have to work very hard to convince me that the original game has better combat or level design.

 

The combat is exactly the same warts and all (I'm counting this as a serious flaw as they haven't addressed any of the obvious issues that the first had, I could ignore them in the first game assuming time constraints or whatever but for a sequel seven years in the making not to address a single issue is not so easily explained away), my problem with the combat here is the pacing. One long relentless slog of a battle after another.

The first game had plenty of skirmishes that were super intense but they were all (nearly all) over relatively quickly. Also the set pieces in the first were infinitely better than in this. As for level design the world was beautifully realised, I'm not faulting it, it looked fucking amazing and was atmospheric as fuck, but relative to the first game it was incredibly limited, I think that's why that superfluous last section was tacked on (it wasn't great anyway). What part of it was better or even comparable to the winter section in the first? 

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I suppose the bit with all the fires

It looked awesome but it didn't play anywhere near as well, nor was it as atmospheric. 

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Gah, I’ve hit a wall

 

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Scars. They’re tearing me to pieces in seconds. It’s not fun

 

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And finished. What a ride. What an emotional rollercoaster. Im a wreck, just sitting here as the credits roll, reflecting on it all. Absolutely amazing. 

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5 hours ago, Dave White said:


Spent near enough a week thinking about the game after completion and think my main gripe is

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some of the incredible moments between Dina and Ellie never seem to be replicated. It ends totally flat with no hint of where Ellie is going or the point of the whole journey.

 

Just some bit of optimism in a character who basically turned out to be quite a monster would have really changed my feelings, its basically a really depressing experience that never lets up.

 

 

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I think it’s much bleaker than that; Ellie’s story arc is complete her having exhausted every and all ends only to end up alone and still not at peace. So I think the only way she can achieve that is by seeking out someone who can help her discover a cure, hand herself over in other words, and of course as we know die in the process. But I think that is her intention as the final scene we see in the epilogue is the one with her saying she wants to try and forgive Joel, and that her dying to make the vaccine should have been her choice. 

 

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2 hours ago, Raoull duke said:

 

The combat is exactly the same warts and all (I'm counting this as a serious flaw as they haven't addressed any of the obvious issues that the first had, I could ignore them in the first game assuming time constraints or whatever but for a sequel seven years in the making not to address a single issue is not so easily explained away), my problem with the combat here is the pacing. One long relentless slog of a battle after another.

The first game had plenty of skirmishes that were super intense but they were all (nearly all) over relatively quickly. Also the set pieces in the first were infinitely better than in this. As for level design the world was beautifully realised, I'm not faulting it, it looked fucking amazing and was atmospheric as fuck, but relative to the first game it was incredibly limited, I think that's why that superfluous last section was tacked on (it wasn't great anyway). What part of it was better or even comparable to the winter section in the first? 

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I suppose the bit with all the fires

It looked awesome but it didn't play anywhere near as well, nor was it as atmospheric. 

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I’d be interested to hear why you think it’s flawed, but I can’t accept it’s exactly the same as the first game as it just isn’t. As for set pieces not being better :blink:

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Aannnd onward to Day Three

 

The last hour or two was so good. Got stuck on one bit for about five deaths then nailed it and swept through the rest. No idea how far in I am but it only feels like it started to properly get going, so plenty left yet I assume. What a game

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Fucking hell the bit with Ellie in the theatre basement is so fucking shit, just let it fucking end no need for that crap. What magic actions do I need to achieve to end this stupid bit of gameplay?

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3 minutes ago, spanx said:

Aannnd onward to Day Three

 

The last hour or two was so good. Got stuck on one bit for about five deaths then nailed it and swept through the rest. No idea how far in I am but it only feels like it started to properly get going, so plenty left yet I assume. What a game

 

It's a long game, but I've not been bored in the slightest.

 

One particular section I just went through scared the bejeezus out of me. I was in blind panic mode throughout it. 

 

Fire helped :)

 

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3 minutes ago, Minion said:

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Fucking hell the bit with Ellie in the theatre basement is so fucking shit, just let it fucking end no need for that crap. What magic actions do I need to achieve to end this stupid bit of gameplay?

Git gud. :lol:

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5 minutes ago, Thor said:

Git gud. :lol:

 

It's not at all fun this bit, it's actually made me rather fed up with the game. The games over why prolong it with some awful gameplay section. Also fuck you.

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1 minute ago, Minion said:

 

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It's not at all fun this bit, it's actually made me rather fed up with the game. The games over why prolong it with some awful gameplay section. Also fuck you.

:lol:

 

Endgame spoilers...

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Don't attack her head on, if you see she's setting a trap then try and get behind/to the side of her. 

 

Also, you keep saying it's the end of the game ... 

 

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8 minutes ago, Thor said:

:lol:

 

Endgame spoilers...

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Don't attack her head on, if you see she's setting a trap then try and get behind/to the side of her. 

 

Also, you keep saying it's the end of the game ... 

 

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Haha ok cheers I'll try it tomorrow.

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I’ve reached a bit where I’m considering trying to make a run for the exit rather than see what’s lurking in the darkness outside the room I’m currently cowering in. Sound design and lighting doing some heavy lifting, tension and atmosphere at maximum - I had to call it a night.

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21 minutes ago, SpagMasterSwift said:

I’ve reached a bit where I’m considering trying to make a run for the exit rather than see what’s lurking in the darkness outside the room I’m currently cowering in. Sound design and lighting doing some heavy lifting, tension and atmosphere at maximum - I had to call it a night.

 

What bit is it?

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1 hour ago, Minion said:

 

Haha ok cheers I'll try it tomorrow.

 

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There are bottles (or bricks, can't remember) lying around. Use them to stun her and run up to her to melee her. Because she has firepower and you don't, you don't stand a chance in open combat.

 

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4 hours ago, Raoull duke said:

 

The best review of the first game. 

 

You might find this interesting as well.

 

 

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2 hours ago, Stanley said:

I’d be interested to hear why you think it’s flawed, but I can’t accept it’s exactly the same as the first game as it just isn’t. As for set pieces not being better :blink:

 

Can you explain to me how to combat is different? 

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I have just finished Day 3. Major spoilers:

 

 

I don’t want to overreact. I see what ND are trying to do. But I think I hate this. The Joel/Ellie, Jessie/Dina parallel with Abby’s crew is extremely on the nose, I don’t think the narrative they’re spinning really tallies with how the WLF have behaved up until this point. To be clear, no matter how relatable or similar to Ellie they make her: Abby and her crew were in the wrong.
 

I guessed Abby’s connection to Joel at the beginning but thought it might end up being something more surprising, nuanced or darker. I don’t want to play through the game from the enemy’s perspective and finally, I hate Abby’s character design, just doesn’t look like a real person something uncanny and awkward about it. 


It’s killed my motivation to keep playing because at the end they’re probably all hug and be like “we really are the same”! And team up to fight the Scars lady or some shit.

 

Maybe the Scars are the real heroes.


 

 

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40 minutes ago, Raoull duke said:

 

Can you explain to me how to combat is different? 

How different did you expect it to be? I guess they could have made it first person and given you a laser gun, but not sure that would have worked. 

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14 minutes ago, Peb Kacharach said:

I have just finished Day 3. Major spoilers:

 

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I don’t want to overreact. I see what ND are trying to do. But I think I hate this. The Joel/Ellie, Jessie/Dina parallel with Abby’s crew is extremely on the nose, I don’t think the narrative they’re spinning really tallies with how the WLF have behaved up until this point. To be clear, no matter how relatable or similar to Ellie they make her: Abby and her crew were in the wrong.
 

I guessed Abby’s connection to Joel at the beginning but thought it might end up being something more surprising, nuanced or darker. I don’t want to play through the game from the enemy’s perspective and finally, I hate Abby’s character design, just doesn’t look like a real person something uncanny and awkward about it. 


It’s killed my motivation to keep playing because at the end they’re probably all hug and be like “we really are the same”! And team up to fight the Scars lady or some shit.

 

Maybe the Scars are the real heroes.


 

 

 

I don’t think i could agree with you any less. 

 

You should properly stop playing, because this bit isn’t going to get any better for you.

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