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14 hours ago, dr_manhattan^ said:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36852323

 

We've been bought.  No idea if this is a good or bad thing.

 

It's defiantly a good thing, we were stuck in mid-table hell again this season without the takeover at least now we can feel confident that we will be able to fight for promotion, fosun are buying us with the intention of getting us to the Premier League as soon as possible  

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1 hour ago, Sirloin said:

Hearts trying to make Celtic better about losing to Lincoln Red Imps by losing at home to a Maltese team.

 

It's now Birkirkara's best ever season in Europe, their previous best being a narrow penalty defeat to West Ham in the same round last season.

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31 minutes ago, Picasso Of Pain said:

 

It's defiantly a good thing, we were stuck in mid-table hell again this season without the takeover at least now we can feel confident that we will be able to fight for promotion, fosun are buying us with the intention of getting us to the Premier League as soon as possible  

 

The Championship is looking very exciting this season, so many teams realistically going for promotion.

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Went to the Belgian Supercup on Saturday, £10 on the door.  Went as part of my brothers stag do, and all 9 of us had an absolute blast.  Went 1-0 down and down to ten men and managed to win 2-1.

 

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Sky Sports have bought the rights to show the Chinese Super League live for the next three seasons.

 

Opening Chinese Super League fixtures:

Saturday July 30: Shanghai Shenhua v Jiangsu Suning (12.30pm, Sky Sports 3)

Sunday July 31: Guangzhou R&F v Shanghai SIPG (12.30pm, Sky Sports 3)                                   

Saturday August 13: Shanghai Shenhua v Guangzhou Evergrande Taobao (12.30pm)

Sunday August 14: Hebei China Fortune v Liaoning (12.30pm)

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21 minutes ago, Oh Danny Boy said:

Pogbas agent is apparently demanding £25m for negotiating a deal to United. Makes me feel sick. Can agents just fuck off?

 

You seem to have one trapped in your avatar.

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He plays pure hardball as well.

 

I read Ibra's book and that agent was responsible for driving his price down from what was effectively the £100m Barcelona paid for him. He eventually went to AC Milan one season later for just over £20m, just to force a move as the alternative was him going to Real Madrid. 

 

And before that when he went to Ajax, he made sure that Ibra was signed for the highest price ever (at the time) for a scandanavian player.

 

He will have also raked it in from both Ibra and Mkhitaryan deals. 

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By all accounts being an agent is 24/7 relentlessly demanding job. This guy must be absolutely minted by now, I wonder he bothers any more. I'd be chilling on a yacht somewhere not giving a fuck about my prima donna egomaniac clients.

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As lifestyles go up, expenses go up. I'm not the biggest fan of agents but they must do something worthy of commanding their large fees. Football pays, so if the clubs are earning millions a week off Ibra's shirt sales, then he should be compensated, along with the agent who negotiated the deal. Just like a good solicitor costs you but is worth it, these top agents must be killer negotiators. What I find strange is that it's such a different world for the agents and the stars, earning vast fortunes, in a sport essentially kept afloat by the common man. If we all cancelled our sky, season tickets, kit purchases and so on how long would the game last?

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2 hours ago, Commander Jameson said:

I'm not sure why agents' fees are paid by the clubs. I imagined the player should be paying the agent.

 

That's only a semantic difference though. If he needed £25m as a fee then Pogba's wages would be £35m a year instead of of £10m. Or whatever.

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3 hours ago, angel said:

As lifestyles go up, expenses go up. I'm not the biggest fan of agents but they must do something worthy of commanding their large fees. Football pays, so if the clubs are earning millions a week off Ibra's shirt sales, then he should be compensated, along with the agent who negotiated the deal. Just like a good solicitor costs you but is worth it, these top agents must be killer negotiators. What I find strange is that it's such a different world for the agents and the stars, earning vast fortunes, in a sport essentially kept afloat by the common man. If we all cancelled our sky, season tickets, kit purchases and so on how long would the game last?

 

4 hours ago, ckny said:

By all accounts being an agent is 24/7 relentlessly demanding job. This guy must be absolutely minted by now, I wonder he bothers any more. I'd be chilling on a yacht somewhere not giving a fuck about my prima donna egomaniac clients.

 

The Secret Footballer revealed a little bit about what agents do a while back. Read elsewhere that on top of negotiation skills, some agents are pretty much PAs (or if you're being unkind to the player, a nanny), with jobs including changing lightbulbs and doing the weekly shop.

 

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SF: The role of the agent in the last 20 years has evolved into one of the most misunderstood – albeit entirely necessary – positions in the game. It is not uncommon these days for an agent to be found booking hotels, leasing cars, sorting match tickets, opening mail and paying bills for their clients. In fact, I know of a player who after being summoned to appear in court over some outstanding debts explained that nobody had ever shown him how to set up direct debits. The letters being held up as evidence were the same ones he'd thrown in a drawer every morning before setting off for training.

 

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Man City released just about every ticket for the entire season to general sale already. Do other clubs do that? As it's really fucking annoying. It's not particularly cheap to go, so having to pay for the games you want in one go in the middle of the fucking summer is ridiculous. The other annoying thing is that Leicester are now a Category A game. Us winning the league has cost me twenty quid!

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On 29/07/2016 at 22:38, Sirloin said:

Man City released just about every ticket for the entire season to general sale already. Do other clubs do that? As it's really fucking annoying. It's not particularly cheap to go, so having to pay for the games you want in one go in the middle of the fucking summer is ridiculous. The other annoying thing is that Leicester are now a Category A game. Us winning the league has cost me twenty quid!

Last time I bought Liverpool tickets, they released all the first half of the season games in the summer then the second half in November. But yeah, if you wanted to go to say 5 games you have to pay for them all up front. They are also categories too which means you can never get United tickets unless you can afford to go to more than 9 Home games in the previous season.

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On 29/07/2016 at 22:38, Sirloin said:

Man City released just about every ticket for the entire season to general sale already. Do other clubs do that? As it's really fucking annoying. It's not particularly cheap to go, so having to pay for the games you want in one go in the middle of the fucking summer is ridiculous. The other annoying thing is that Leicester are now a Category A game. Us winning the league has cost me twenty quid!

 

Chelsea release matches roughly 6 weeks in advance.  Then again, league games virtually never get to general sale at all.

 

They have to do this though because a late season Man Utd game would end up being allocated based on how many other matches you'd attended that season.

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Jesus. The first goal was already a winner so no need to stick the knife in!

 

Dundalk are 1-0 up against BATE, leaving it 1-1 on aggregate. I tend to jinx the fuck out of any local sides I mention if you believe in that sort of thing, so expect BATE to come back with four goals in the second half.

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