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4 minutes ago, SozzlyJoe said:

 

It's not a question of allowed! I mean we've moved on from gameplay to speculation about whether he needs reigned in by 'suits', just looking forward to some actual grounded impressions from a forumite.

Well I questioned whether he needed reining in by his team, after someone* suggested he’d had total control, from following his twitter account. The reason I was wondering that was because of the reviews I’ve read and I was curious. I wasn’t trying to dish out any hot-takes. I was more just wondering what his role had been in DS’s development.

 

Saying that, I can’t wait to hear what people think of it on here.
 

*oh, it was you!

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3 hours ago, Down by Law said:

I'm glad Giant Bomb reviewed it and Edge really should too. Feels unfair on other games that get middling/poor scores. A non review is far less likely to help decide a purchase than a low scoring one.

 

Agreed. I only buy Edge intermittently, but was going to buy it for their DS review. And I think their more regular readership would like a review of the biggest indie game of the year/one of the biggest games of the year full stop.

 

3 hours ago, HarryBizzle said:


If Edge don’t review it, it sounds like it’s more SIE/Koj Prod’s fault than Edge’s. Their insistence that you have to finish it to review it is silly given it’s 50+ hours long. 

 

Well yeah, but that only applies to the Edge issue close enough to align with the release date. Once the game's embargo's lifted, it's fair game.

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Well, the resident Edge writer says they’re struggling to muster the enthusiasm to wade through it. 
 

Bodes well for those hoping the negative reviews are just people with “expectations”.

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3 minutes ago, grindmouse said:

Well, the resident Edge writer says they’re struggling to muster the enthusiasm to wade through it. 
 

Bodes well for those hoping the negative reviews are just people with “expectations”.

Woah, slow down with the hot-takes, man!

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26 minutes ago, PeteBrant said:

Where ?

Oh I'd say there's a fair bit of it in this thread, but perhaps from the other angle than you are thinking. Many were poo-pooing the game prior to release, and they're now stating the reviews are reinforcing their own views, when it's really just a few poor reviews (and Edge being, well, Edge). I'm concerned the gameplay won't be engaging enough, so am just exercising a little caution. 

 

It's all on you, Pete. ;)

 

1 minute ago, grindmouse said:

Well, the resident Edge writer says they’re struggling to muster the enthusiasm to wade through it. 
 

Bodes well for those hoping the negative reviews are just people with “expectations”.

It's currently sitting at 83 on metacritic based on 78 critics, with only two genuinely negative reviews (one of which is that GB one). But of course, we should pay that no mind because Edge has spoken. :rolleyes:

 

I'll probably hate the fucking game. :lol:

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Edge was one of the few publications to give a justifiably bad score to Hellblade a few years ago, while every other source was calling it a masterpiece of worthiness. They know their onions. Especially when you can talk to the monsters.

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12 minutes ago, Thor said:

Oh I'd say there's a fair bit of it in this thread, but perhaps from the other angle than you are thinking. 

Yeah I see that now with a bit of help .. 

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13 minutes ago, Benny said:

Edge was one of the few publications to give a justifiably bad score to Hellblade a few years ago, while every other source was calling it a masterpiece of worthiness. They know their onions. Especially when you can talk to the monsters.

In your opinion. 

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I think you missed the bit where I was being facetious.

 

Spoiler

It's still a bad game though.

 

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4 hours ago, HarryBizzle said:


If Edge don’t review it, it sounds like it’s more SIE/Koj Prod’s fault than Edge’s. Their insistence that you have to finish it to review it is silly given it’s 50+ hours long. 

 

Edge should just youtube the ending.

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3 minutes ago, Gizamaluke said:

Edge should just youtube the ending.

And then hire Rubberjohnny to write the review. :lol:

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Just now, IainGamer said:

Well copy has turned up and just installing.  Will try and get an hour in this afternoon if I can. :sealclap:

Your mission, should you choose to accept it...

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I have a ballroom dancing lesson tonight . So the earliest I will get it on is about 9 .  Plus I’ll probably play COD at that point to be fair . 

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9 minutes ago, PeteBrant said:

I have a ballroom dancing lesson tonight . So the earliest I will get it on is about 9  . 

 

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and lets hope Pete scores the game as high :)

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Watching the Eurogamer stream of this and thing putting me off the most isn't the bizarre gameplay and baby rocking and all that stuff, but the sheer volume of cut scenes and Kojima's writing. Fuck all that. In the first hour of the stream they must have played 20 minutes tops.  But then I guess if you're in for Kojima you're in all the way and that's what you're playing for.

 Beautiful looking game, mind. Just had a look and there is an 'art of' coming https://www.amazon.co.uk/Art-Death-Stranding-Kojima-Productions/dp/178909156X

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1 hour ago, PeteBrant said:

I have a ballroom dancing lesson tonight . So the earliest I will get it on is about 9 .  Plus I’ll probably play COD at that point to be fair . 

 

Holy fuck. Has the Fleabag magic worn off?

 

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1 hour ago, moosegrinder said:

Watching the Eurogamer stream of this and thing putting me off the most isn't the bizarre gameplay and baby rocking and all that stuff, but the sheer volume of cut scenes and Kojima's writing. Fuck all that. In the first hour of the stream they must have played 20 minutes tops.  But then I guess if you're in for Kojima you're in all the way and that's what you're playing for.

 Beautiful looking game, mind. Just had a look and there is an 'art of' coming https://www.amazon.co.uk/Art-Death-Stranding-Kojima-Productions/dp/178909156X

 

The presenters on the Eurogamer feed are all intensely annoying. Had to mute it after a minute.

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17 minutes ago, PinkMoon said:

 

Holy fuck. Has the Fleabag magic worn off?

 

Yes . Desperate times call for desperate measures!! 
 

Bish asked after you the other day . Definitely next year ....

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Im listening to Fextralife playing this on Twitch, he's alternating between 'this sgameplay is mediocre', to when the world start populating 'this is pretty cool'.

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Will get round to installing a bit later tonight and hopefully play it for a bit if not too tired.

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Watching a stream of this (the channel is PS4Trophies, quite good, he's a lot less sardonic and annoying than the You're A Gamer feed from earlier) and he's just commented how busy the world is and that many structures are appearing already, despite the game not being officially out yet. Seems like some of those long early slogs that the game has been criticised for will be less arduous pretty shortly after the game is out. Be interesting to see how much difference a heavily populated gameworld makes.

 

 

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Two hours in and I'm pretty captivated so far. Admittedly, 'Kojima Fan Enjoys Kojima Game' may not be the exacting critique you're after, but here we are. 

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Watching the Giant Bomb quick look and I'm amazed at the fact both Alex and Vinnie have completed the game but Vinnie is constantly giving tips to Alex on how to play the game and make life easier for himself.

 

It seems Alex didn't experiment with the game at all when he was playing it and played it in the most frustrating way possible going by the way he plays it in the quick look.

 

Examples - mild gameplay spoilers from early in the game, nothing story related:

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Alex places packages on the floor at the base to repair them with spray. He proceeds to walk backwards and forwards clumsily spraying them until they're repaired.

 

Vinnie: You can just keep the packages on your person and point the spray at yourself.

 

Alex then slowly and cautiously makes his way past the ghostly 'BTs' in a snail like manner and carefully lobs blood grenades at them one at a time. Twenty times.

 

Vinnie: You can pretty much run through this area unless you get too close then your detector starts flashing orange/red. Alex's detector is white the whole time pretty much.

 

Alex gets dragged into a black goo mini boss fight and he proceeds to proclaim that he has to fight it and he's never managed to get away from these fights by running ever.

 

Vinnie: You can just run away from these fights. I ran away nearly every time.

 

Alex then proceeds to try and get away in the worst direction possible over horrendous rocky mountainous terrain getting stuck in crevices. He finally gets onto flat terrain and lo and behold - the black goo subsides and things return to normal.

 

 

:doh:

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39 minutes ago, Jolly said:

Two hours in and I'm pretty captivated so far. Admittedly, 'Kojima Fan Enjoys Kojima Game' may not be the exacting critique you're after, but here we are. 

I concur completely . It’s utterly captivating . Course its early doors, could all turn to shit  . And the terrain traversal sounds boring on paper . But when you’re doing it you are picking out routes all the time .

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Question is do I break myself for work tomorrow by getting up at stupid o clock and playing once it unlocks. 

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