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I don't have a problem with Craig staying on - I actually like my Bonds to be a bit creaky, like my Doctor Whos. But I do hope he at least lightens up a bit if he's doing two more. Bond should always look like he's having fun, even when his goolies are about to be lopped off by a shark with a laser.

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Part of the deal is that he'll also perform a public service role, parachuting into failing UK trade negotiation meetings as the delegates pick up their folders in preparation to return to North Korea or Iran.

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1 hour ago, Commander Jameson said:

I can't see where a story with Craig's Bond goes now. 

Space! 

 

Moonraker 2 - Some rich maniac is trying to attach rockets to asteroids and fire them at earth. Bond has to stop him before he escapes to Mars or something. They can reuse one of the scenes from the previous Craig Bond films where the villain lives in the desert in a building full of explosives for some reason, but put a red filter on it so it looks like Mars.

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They should do one where Bond has lost his memory and they have to send about a billion guys to bring him back in again because he keeps throwing them into walls in shakey cam before they can explain the situation to him. At the end, he goes back to doing his job as a government sponsored super assassin instead of living in a beach hut with Franka Potente, because he's not a big fucking cry baby.

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Goldeneye is clearly the best Bond film and should be the model for all future Bonds, so the next film would ideally have a score that sounds like a small child going berserk in Thomas Dolby's synth room, and would involve Bond wearing a navy double-breasted blazer and tan chinos in every scene.

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The next film should be a machinima using the Goldeneye 64 engine and models. They could use the N64 camera to scan in Craig David's face (not a bad day's work for £150 million!) and put it on the model of Bond wearing his famous tuxedo.

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I just want Bond to do his fucking job. I think in every Craig film he's gone rogue, quit the service, or both. Skyfall ended with it looking like he was going to do missions without whining and being glum about it and then the fucker had gone rogue again at the start of the next film.

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He could do a more realistic one where he sits behind a desk at GCHQ appraising a piece of information without any context and then sends it on to his supervisor after which, they never speak of it again. Then he does some really hard maths.

 

They could appease the multiplex crowd by having a scene in an ops centre bathed in red light with a siren going off and someone could say "FIREWALL IS HOLDING!" with a sense of urgency.

 

And then back to more data apparisal and TCPDump analysis.

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They should do one where there's a referendum on whether the UK should have awesome Double O Agents going around the world killing people in a tuxedo, or instead spend the £350 million on building a wall around the whole country, and Bond has to go rogue when the Take Me Out watching mouthbreather electorate naturally vote to sever all ties with all things foreign.

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1 hour ago, Harsin said:

I just want Bond to do his fucking job. I think in every Craig film he's gone rogue, quit the service, or both. Skyfall ended with it looking like he was going to do missions without whining and being glum about it and then the fucker had gone rogue again at the start of the next film.

 

That seems to be the case with every major franchise for about the last decade. It's always either an origin story, or they've gone rogue and/or the individual and/or whole organisation is falling apart and discredited. No one makes films about an established character just doing their thing.

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How to pinpoint the reasons for the recent Bond's incredible success..surely not on Daniel Craig's portrayal as Bond ? Nor the directing, or the scripts, of the action, or anything other than marketing and luck (like few foresaw the success of Jurassic World, that Jurassic Park 3 was a while ago and a new generation of kids wanted to see dinosaurs...I wouldn't attribute any of it to Chris Pratt or the execution of its direction).

 

I just watched a youtube Best Of Craig's Bond to convince myself otherwise, but still don't think he is best suited to be a leading man, he is stiff and lacks charisma and isn't a natural talker. I think always using brute force rather than his wits to get out of situations isn't Bond. I think he's better at portraying secondary characters who appear irregularly with their unhinged outlook, like in Infamous where he plays one of the murderers in jail awaiting execution, and in Road To Perdition where he's just pretty creepy.

 

I like the idea of Michael Mann, still think Doug Liman would be perfect though ! Edge of Tomorrow really surprised me with how effective and vicious its CGI is. Did Bourne traditionally, with a European tone, whilst still giving it an edge, and not overdoing it. 

 

They always go low key and non American though. (Mendes was probably the most high profile appointment). Wouldn't be surprised if they went with someone like Scotland-born David McKenzie, whose latest film Hell or High Water is getting rave reviews, as a thoughtful thriller. I also loved Starred Up.

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9 hours ago, Harsin said:

I just want Bond to do his fucking job.

 

 

Yes, this. There seems to be a trend in modern action movies where everything has to be "personal" with the bad guy being connected to the good guy in some way. I think it's supposed to make us feel more empathy for the hero or something. But I just think it makes Bond look like a selfish twat. Bond should be punching megalomaniacs in the face out of a sense of duty, because it's the right thing to do, and if he doesn't, millions could die. Like you say, just getting on with his fucking job.

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I think it also needs fewer in jokes and references to previous Bonds and just needs do someting new, with a well written script (ideally finished before filing begins) with proper dialogue instead of just being short tit for tat lines and quips.

 

Don't take the audience for mugs, if it's well written you shouldn't need charcters explaining the plot.

 

 

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I couldn't even get all the way through Spectre. So dull. I wouldn't mind Bond going on a bit of a hiatus for a decade or so, then bring him back in spectacular, refreshed fashion. 

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19 hours ago, Harsin said:

I just want Bond to do his fucking job. I think in every Craig film he's gone rogue, quit the service, or both. Skyfall ended with it looking like he was going to do missions without whining and being glum about it and then the fucker had gone rogue again at the start of the next film.

 

Much like the agency from the Mission Impossible films that disavows people constantly but somehow still has some agents and the gall to be shocked when rogue agents arise, it seems like no matter how good a spy you were, if you'd gone rogue half as many times as Bond has you'd definitely have been fired by now.

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21 hours ago, Commander Jameson said:

I can't see where a story with Craig's Bond goes now. He's already had two films with him at the end of his spying career. I don't think I could take yet another washed-up Bond film.

 

I always thought the end of Spectre was pretty open to Blofeld breaking out thanks to Batista's help, then them killing Bond's new bird / finance a la OHMSS. After seeing Waltz and Craig doing some of there most boring performances though, I don't want this at all. I want some more stand alone story lines, not another Spectre flick. Me of a few years ago can't believe I just typed that. I was so hyped for Spectre.

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On 9/5/2016 at 11:40, FishyFish said:

Craig has apparently been offered $150 million for two more Bond films to be shot back-to-back.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/sep/05/daniel-craig-offered-150m-two-more-bonds

 

 

 

It is worth pointing out that contrary to the mention in that article, Sony no longer have the distribution rights to the Bond movies so any offer of $150m from Sony is a bit premature. 

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Never been much of a fan of Craig. He just doesn't have the charisma the role calls for imo. Casino Royale was a decent movie but that was mainly down to other areas such as script, pacy direction and Green giving a standout performance. Spectre was pretty awful when all said and done and Bellucci's character was a disgrace quite frankly, which tainted the entire film for me.

 

I'd rather see a new Bond but I wonder if the timing is off for various actors demands. Tom Hiddleston or Aidan Turner would be my current picks, but I just wonder if either would be prepared/bothered to take up the challenge at this point in their careers.

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On 05/09/2016 at 15:02, Captain LeChuck said:

Yeah, I want nothing to do with more Craig Bond films. Spectre was an atrocity. 

 

Same, I am done with Craig as bond. Unless he ups his game massively and so does the next director. If they could extract a Casino quality performance from him that would be good enough but I don't think he has it in him anymore.

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I think the mistake has been trying to ground Bond in reality to some degree, when the reason we go to see a Bond movie, is that we want precisely the opposite. 

 

Bond is a cipher for people to project their own fantasies upon, so nobody gives a fuck about his past. We want to see him shooting baddies and shagging birds, preferably while wrapped in the largest Union Jack possible. 

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The real problem with Bond is that it's failed to establish itself a modern identity and other movies do the stuff it used to try to do, but they focus on it.

 

Casino Royale is cool, but the Bourne films are slick, grounded, modern super spy films that feel grounded in reality. The Mission Impossible franchise is the natural extension of the type of OTT thing Bond was in the past. Instea of competing with those directly it tries to be both and also be arty and respectable, which is too much to expect from most films.

 

So you end up with Alejandro González Iñárritu's Three Hour Suit and Car Showcase.

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