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Maker of terrible steam games sues Youtube game reviewer Jim Sterling for $10 million

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5 hours ago, sir shrew said:

 

And find yourself in the position of producing better content than Jim Sterling with a fraction of the views, or worse, discover you're not as good at it as Jim Sterling.

Neither reality bears thinking about.

 

Jim Sterling is incredibly talented, which is why he's getting attention. You can think it's shit, but there's a 99% chance you'd be much worse than him. Maybe just stick him on your list with Zoe?

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6 hours ago, sir shrew said:

DH are twats, but the idea Jim Sterling earns $10,000 a month makes me want to throw away all my videogames and live the rest of my life as a hermit in the woods.

 

Mate, you should be see the ones who get $50-60k a month on Patreon (they draw porn).

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There are far less talented and worthy youtubers making ten to fifty times what Sterling makes. He has an inbuilt audience from his long career doing traditional written reviews which inflates that quite a bit, no doubt.

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1 hour ago, Broker said:

Jim Sterling is incredibly talented, which is why he's getting attention. You can think it's shit, but there's a 99% chance you'd be much worse than him. Maybe just stick him on your list with Zoe?

 

I think you're confusing talent with confidence, and maybe girth.

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Oh come on. Sterling often nails his chosen topic, but the entire aesthetic of his videos, the "humour", nazi outfit and his shouty delivery are horrible. If he can throw stones, he can take them as well.

 

None of these minor industry celebs need Broker or deerokus defending them by insulting other forumites.

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I do subscribe to Jim Sterling's channel and generally enjoy his output, especially the Greenlight trailers. And he makes some excellent points about Steam's failings. However, as much as I like his stuff, I can't help feeling that, when he says "thank god for me" he does rather mean it, even if he would publicly deny that. It always makes me cringe.

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21 hours ago, sir shrew said:

Oh come on. Sterling often nails his chosen topic, but the entire aesthetic of his videos, the "humour", nazi outfit and his shouty delivery are horrible. If he can throw stones, he can take them as well.

 

None of these minor industry celebs need Broker or deerokus defending them by insulting other forumites.

 

Nobody is insulting you, just pointing out that your grandiose delusions about your own talent lead to an inability to objectively judge things in fields where you would like to work.

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36 minutes ago, Broker said:

Nobody is insulting you, just pointing out that your grandiose delusions about your own talent 

 

Where have I ever given the impression I have grandiose delusions about my own talent? 

 

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lead to an inability to objectively judge things in fields where you would like to work.


 

 

Jim Sterling is objectively great in your subjective opinion.

 

So do you think I want to work as an LA alt games producer or an indie-game shitposting YT Vlogger?

 

You're just being vindictive because you didn't like me criticizing Zoe Quinn's games.

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40 minutes ago, sir shrew said:

 

Where have I ever given the impression I have grandiose delusions about my own talent? 

 

 

You assault the people behind creative output instead of the output itself. This is always framed by "anyone could go out and do what they do but it wouldn't sell because xyz" when what you clearly mean is "my things don't do as well as Jim Sterling or Zoe Quinn and I blame xyz."

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19 minutes ago, BitterToad said:

 

You assault the people behind creative output instead of the output itself. This is always framed by "anyone could go out and do what they do but it wouldn't sell because xyz" when what you clearly mean is "my things don't do as well as Jim Sterling or Zoe Quinn and I blame xyz."

 

Are you joking? Everybody "assaults" the people behind creative output all the time. Sean Murray, Ricky Gervais, Damon Lindelof, Michael Bay, and that's exactly what this thread is about... Jim attacking the people behind Digital Homicide. 

 

I frame it that way because I find it inexplicable why these people have an audience and other things I find to have greater value don't. Like Big Bang Theory getting 12 seasons and Community getting canned. I've never brought my "things" into it. 

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I can't recall talking about the level of success I've had with any of my projects. Or whether they met my level of expectation.

 

I moaned about some shite graphic design work one time or another, but I was reminded that as a career it's incredibly tricky to make a living even with the requisite qualifications. 

 

I honestly think bringing this stuff up says more about you guys than it does me. I don't criticize DQ or Sterling's vids because I'm bitter about their success, I do it because I think they're both shit.

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So, Jim Sterling is objectively brilliant, and anyone who thinks otherwise is just bitterly jealous of his success and has personal issues that should probably be brought into discussion.

 

No wonder a lot of the old crowd left this forum.

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It's nothing to do with whether you think Jim Sterling is shit or brilliant. Plenty of people don't like his stuff. I was just trying to explain why you're getting the particular reaction you are, which seems to be upsetting you, from multiple posters in here and other threads. 

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1 hour ago, Harsin said:

It's nothing to do with whether you think Jim Sterling is shit or brilliant. Plenty of people don't like his stuff. I was just trying to explain why you're getting the particular reaction you are, which seems to be upsetting you, from multiple posters in here and other threads. 

 

It's the same handful of posters who keep bringing it up in different threads. Mainly Broker. It doesn't upset me, a bout with Broker breaks up the monotony of work, but it disappoints me "the forum" insofar as it's represented by a vocal few, behaves this way. It's nothing to do with my attitude, Jim Sterling or forum etiquette, and everything to do with a political agenda.

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:lol:

 

Yeah, it's nothing to do with you and it's just me being angry about your politics. That's why three other people were able to easily articulate the exact same feelings about your posts as I have.

 

Your criticisms always include a jibe about how people aren't talented enough to deserve their success. Here, you've criticised Sterling, then when someone has made the completely fair suggestion that if you think it's that easy you could do it, your response is to state how the only options there would be to be better than Jim but less appreciated, or find out that you're worse than him. The fact you make these comments consistently about "more talented" people not getting the recognition they deserve certainly makes it sound like you're talking about yourself. Maybe you're not, and there are other youtubers who are less popular than Jim but more talented who you're feeling really upset on the behalf of but never think to mention their names?

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2 hours ago, Broker said:

:lol:

 

Yeah, it's nothing to do with you and it's just me being angry about your politics. That's why three other people were able to easily articulate the exact same feelings about your posts as I have.

 

Your criticisms always include a jibe about how people aren't talented enough to deserve their success. Here, you've criticised Sterling, then when someone has made the completely fair suggestion that if you think it's that easy you could do it, your response is to state how the only options there would be to be better than Jim but less appreciated, or find out that you're worse than him. The fact you make these comments consistently about "more talented" people not getting the recognition they deserve certainly makes it sound like you're talking about yourself. Maybe you're not, and there are other youtubers who are less popular than Jim but more talented who you're feeling really upset on the behalf of but never think to mention their names?

 

For the benefit of anyone not following other threads in Discussion, you're talking specifically about my jibes against Zoe Quinn.

 

And that is all this is about. It's fair game to follow me around the forum, discrediting my opinion, because I criticized Zoe Quinn's games.

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There's those delusions again, nobody is following you. You've had the same acerbic reaction to two people who you don't consider to be talented enough to deserve their success, and unless there's about five of us all following you then either other people have spotted the same link or you've done it before as well. Feel free to martyr yourself but I don't give a shit what you're posting or where, I just already wasted time working out why you were so weird about Zoe Quinn and thought I'd save anyone else you were confusing the trouble.

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Got any actual examples of bullying? Or am I not allowed to disagree with the same person on two separate topics?

 

I didn't think anyone was actually stupid enough to fall for it when people go "OH WELL I GUESS I CAN'T SAY ANYTHING WITHOUT BEING ABUSED AND BULLIED" when people take issue with their abusive posts about people who've been bullied. But there you are.

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I wasn't massively keen on Jim Sterling, at first exposure, but he's grown on me massively. It's certainly very easy to take the grandiose arrogance at face value. Even now, it can be jarring from time to time, but there's a theatricality to it and it often helps to get some of his points across.

 

I don't always agree with him or his approach, but that applies to anyone. He's prepared to stick his neck out on topics, and while he spends plenty of time calling out terrible indie games, he devotes plenty of coverage to AAA issues such as excessive micro-transactions. He also digs into things, in ways which sometimes approach or meet actual journalism. If you're going to do that, a certain amount of bravado might seem like a good way to shape your public persona.

 

Given he's being subjected to a spurious lawsuit and has received lots of abuse and harassment, a certain amount of bullishness probably seems like a wise choice.

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http://www.pcgamer.com/digital-homicide-withdraws-lawsuit-against-steam-users-says-studio-is-destroyed/

 



Digital Homicide, the maker of games including The Slaughtering Grounds, ET: The Extra-Large Testicle, and Not In My Crapper, recently made the astounding decision to sue 100 anonymous Steam users for $18 million over nasty comments they'd made about the studio's work. In response, Valve removed all of the studio's games from Steam, prompting Digital Homicide to threaten legal action against it as well. But last week it requested that the lawsuit be dismissed, because it can no longer afford to pursue it. 

"Upon filing this case, per advice of the local sheriff who could not help me or my business with a massive ARS-13-2921 criminal harassment problem on an Internet Store front and via email, The Plaintiffs business was destroyed completely financially disabling The Plaintiff, destroying usability of all current work effort, and untold other damages," the filing says. It seeks one of two options: A refund of the court filing fee and dismissal of the case without prejudice, or, if the filing fee is non-refundable, a 90-day extension on the action, presumably to give Digital Homicide time to scrape a few bucks together so it can continue the fight. 

Digital Homicide co-founder James Romine Jr. told Techraptor that he believes the case is "solid," but the removal of the games from Steam crippled the studio financially. In fact, not only is the lawsuit withdrawn (or paused), but Digital Homicide itself is apparently now defunct. 

"[Digital Homicide is] destroyed. It's been stomped into the ground from a thousand directions and use is discontinued," he said. "I’m going back into the workforce and watching what’s really going on. Not gaming media gossip—the real stories are in the legal documents. Not talking about mine."

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