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Unofficial Who

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3 minutes ago, Commander Jameson said:

It's the one thing in all of Star Wars that made me physically gasp.

 

That baby Hutt is pretty cute right?

 

Seriously though, there's a few bones to pick with TLJ, I've got some big ones about how it side lines some of the characters midway through like they couldn't work out what to do with them but this seemed feasible. A desperate move by a leader who'd screwed up several times, one last roll of the dice.

 

Apparently hyperspace issues have happened in the expanded universe before (there's one referred to as The Great Disaster where a trading ship beyond its operating life disintegrates in hyperspace causing bit of it to randomly drop out over time and space causing widespread destruction so if we're taking cannon into account Holdo has probably also committed a war crime.

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5 minutes ago, Unofficial Who said:

so if we're taking cannon into account Holdo has probably also committed a war crime.

 

After Jenny Nicholson's thread above received many replies, she added:

 

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You could put engines on massive asteroids I suppose so your not destroying med bays and officer lounges with every shot.

 

But then you are still out a engine and it's probably hard to get the asteroids into position to be useful.

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Delargey said:

You could put engines on massive asteroids I suppose so your not destroying med bays and officer lounges with every shot.

 

But then you are still out a engine and it's probably hard to get the asteroids into position to be useful.

 

 

 

Yep, but then you face the real bugbear. How much should you let science get in the way of a good story beat? Loads of Star Wars fans have no issues with untouchable classic Star Wars : A New Hope despite issues like how can laser blasts and explosions be heard in space and why would you fly down the trench when the cooling port of the Death Star is uncovered and...well on and on.

 

I'm not sure that this breaks the universe of Star Wars, for me anyway.

 

The final harsh arbiter of whether it works well is audience response. I loved it. The vast majority of viewers rather than gasping left the cinema saying "well that was some bullshit." So I guess that's the real final decider regardless of whether or not it's a legit tactic.

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23 minutes ago, Unofficial Who said:

The vast majority of viewers rather than gasping left the cinema saying "well that was some bullshit."


Vast majority or a vocal minority?

 

Over. And over. And over again.

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1 hour ago, Sarlaccfood said:


Vast majority or a vocal minority?

 

Over. And over. And over again.

 

It was depressing reading the same comments in that reddit thread saying the same thing. Still from my point of view I agreed with her take, I might even rewatch TLJ soon.

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3 hours ago, Unofficial Who said:

 

That baby Hutt is pretty cute right?

 

Seriously though, there's a few bones to pick with TLJ, I've got some big ones about how it side lines some of the characters midway through like they couldn't work out what to do with them but this seemed feasible. A desperate move by a leader who'd screwed up several times, one last roll of the dice.

 

Apparently hyperspace issues have happened in the expanded universe before (there's one referred to as The Great Disaster where a trading ship beyond its operating life disintegrates in hyperspace causing bit of it to randomly drop out over time and space causing widespread destruction so if we're taking cannon into account Holdo has probably also committed a war crime.

 

I think that's fron Light of the Jedi, which is worth a read

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2 hours ago, Unofficial Who said:

 

Yep, but then you face the real bugbear. How much should you let science get in the way of a good story beat? Loads of Star Wars fans have no issues with untouchable classic Star Wars : A New Hope despite issues like how can laser blasts and explosions be heard in space and why would you fly down the trench when the cooling port of the Death Star is uncovered and...well on and on.

 

I'm not sure that this breaks the universe of Star Wars, for me anyway.

 

The final harsh arbiter of whether it works well is audience response. I loved it. The vast majority of viewers rather than gasping left the cinema saying "well that was some bullshit." So I guess that's the real final decider regardless of whether or not it's a legit tactic.

 

It looked stunning so I'm down for it 

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I may be misremembering but wasn't the point of the Holdo Manoeuvre is that it was a last ditch attempt to buy the rest of the fleet some time?

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Stop calling things fucking Manouvres. There’s no Rebel Alliance naval academy that’s teaching people this trick as part of advanced naval tactics 103, a month after the first time it was done. Wiki-speak must end. Everything about that line in TROS was cringe fan-chat but that’s the very nucleus of it.

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I just backed up and read the Alan Dean Foster chat. I can wholeheartedly recommend his Alien Covenant novelisation - his proud “return to the fold” at Fox after they dismissed his Resurrection novelisation. About 250 painfully detailed pages covering the first act of the film, then you can see the exact moment his agent called him to ask where the hell the manuscript was and he batters through most of the film in what was maybe a day’s frantic keyboard work, tops.

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1 minute ago, JohnC said:

That's basically Star Trek's fault.


Yeah, it‘s the Trekification of everything. Every fight is now The Battle of the Wibbly Dibbly on a wiki now too.

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2 hours ago, Unofficial Who said:

 

It was depressing reading the same comments in that reddit thread saying the same thing. Still from my point of view I agreed with her take, I might even rewatch TLJ soon.


That’s because most people that still have a bee in their bonnet about it bother to reply and most people that thought it was a cool bit in a movie from 6 years ago have likely moved on with their lives.

 

In fact they’re probably having sex right now.

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