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Those security issues are what led to the PS3 being unlocked via the USB so it's fair enough that they are demanding a security chip in compatible hardware. The Bone uses new and improved wifi gubbins over last gen hence the lack of compatibility.

I'm just hoping they update the speedwheel (wagglewheel) for the Bone as it is an awesome and affordable bit of kit on the 360.

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Looks like the new Fanatec wheel is an all new design, every part updated.

Its £500 just for the base (i.e. No wheel) and production has started, in low numbers.

Order will be by invite only to previous buyers of the CSR elite wheel I think, so I expect an invite soon, and if I buy I get a friend invite to pass on.

I really dont want to be tempted, but have pedals and a stand sat there and have a brand new Thrustmaster on the way, which i guess i could return to amazon.

http://www.fanatec.com/forum/discussion/137/the-clubsport-wheel-base-v2-servo-power-and-multi-platform

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Looks like the new Fanatec wheel is an all new design, every part updated.

Its £500 just for the base (i.e. No wheel) and production has started, in low numbers.

Order will be by invite only to previous buyers of the CSR elite wheel I think, so I expect an invite soon, and if I buy I get a friend invite to pass on.

I really dont want to be tempted, but have pedals and a stand sat there and have a brand new Thrustmaster on the way, which i guess i could return to amazon.

http://www.fanatec.com/forum/discussion/137/the-clubsport-wheel-base-v2-servo-power-and-multi-platform

Well they weren't joking about the price. I could probably buy a decent PS4 FFB (whenever one comes available - probably Thrustmaster T300RS) wheel and have that along side the Thrustmaster TX (which is an awesome wheel already) and would cost less than just the base of the Fanatec. I'm afraid i'm not that serious about sim racing to justify that kind of outlay.

I think you should return the Thrustmaster to Amazon anyway as you must have paid over £250 for it as when I ordered from BT Shop that was Amazon's price.

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Looks like the new Fanatec wheel is an all new design, every part updated.

Its £500 just for the base (i.e. No wheel) and production has started, in low numbers.

Order will be by invite only to previous buyers of the CSR elite wheel I think, so I expect an invite soon, and if I buy I get a friend invite to pass on.

I really dont want to be tempted, but have pedals and a stand sat there and have a brand new Thrustmaster on the way, which i guess i could return to amazon.

http://www.fanatec.com/forum/discussion/137/the-clubsport-wheel-base-v2-servo-power-and-multi-platform

you will get the option to buy an optional steering wheel which will

add full console compatibility to this base.

We want to achieve

compatibility to both Xbox One and PlayStation 4 and we are happy to

announce that we already signed a contract with one of them. We will

announce this product at the end of this year.

Sorry to quote this again but I have had time to fully read over the Fanatec announcement.

Sounds like you buy the base only which is PC compatible, then you can buy pedals/stand/wheel seperate. However for the XB1 and PS4 you would need to wait till the end of the year for them to release a wheel for only one of the consoles as they have struck a deal but they aren't saying which one. Then you would need to buy obviously which ever or both if you require and bear in mind you will already have forked out £500 for the base alone, how much are these wheels going to cost each? Really for a full set up for both consoles we are realistically talking near or over £1000.

http://forzamotorsport.net/en-us/news/fh2_demo_announce

Bone demo announced for September 16th.

Link also includes Bone achievements list.

Cheers for the heads up boozy!

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I can wait. Either I'll hold out for a compatible Fanatec base and rim (existing pedals and shifters will be compatible) before I take the Bone plunge, or I will get the Trustmaster wheel somewhere down the line. But right now I'm having too much fun with my 360 still, with this setup:

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Hey Krypt! I'm fine (apart from being hit by a vehicle 6 weeks ago, getting better though) but ever since the Bone and PS4 were released in the UK, a lot of you jumped the next gen bandwagon which left me all alone with my dated 360. ;)

Bone is still not out here so I have little to discuss on here. And it seems the forum has gone completely Sony minded. :lol:

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Soundtrack announced and I pretty much could've guessed the majority of these. Unsuprisingly Horizon Pulse is right up my street

Full list in the spoiler.

Horizon Pulse
The festival’s coolest selection of laidback pop, summery nu-disco and electronica – perfect for cruising with the roof down as the sun sets.
“I Might Survive (Goldroom Remix)” by Architecture In Helsinki
“Busy Earnin'” by Jungle
“The Heat” by Jungle
“Luna” by Bombay Bicycle Club
“The Mother We Share” by CHVRCHES
“Free Your Mind” by Cut Copy
“Love Sublime (feat. Nile Rodgers & Fiora)” by Tensnake
“Bridge & Tunnel” by Holy Ghost!
“Never” by Phonat
“Can't Beat The Old School (feat. Jasper Wilde)” by Bo Saris
“Come Alive (feat. Toro y Moi)” by Chromeo
“Jealous (I Ain't With It)” by Chromeo
“Operators” by Jetta
“Always (Classixx Remix)” by Panama
“Brighter Days” by Saint Raymond
“Pica Disco” by Lazyboy
“Klapp Klapp” by Little Dragon
“With You Forever” by Pnau
“Wolves (feat. Youngblood Hawke) (RAC Remix)” by Digitalism
“Nitrous” by Nick Mulvey
“Sea” by Roosevelt
“The Phoenix” by Pyramids

Horizon Bass Arena

From house to electro and techno, Horizon Bass Arena plays the biggest dancefloor anthems of the year all night long.
“I Got U feat. Jax Jones” by Duke Dumont
“Still (Richy Ahmed Remix)” by Katy B
“Hey Now (Arty Remix)” by London Grammar
“Only For You” by Mat Zo
“Touch (Grum Remix)” by Shift K3Y
“NRG” by Duck Sauce
“Changes” by Faul & Wad Ad & Pnau
“Crisis” by Turtle
“Thinking About It” by Just Kiddin
“Running (Disclosure Remix)” by Jessie Ware
“Satisfy” by Nero
“F.A.T. (Original Mix)” by Pryda
“36” by Redlight
“Hyperparadise (GANZ Flip)” by Hermitude x Flume
“Survive” by Kidnap Kid
“Pushing On” by Oliver $ & Jimi Jules
“Delorean Dynamite” by Todd Terje
“Liberate” by Eric Prydz
“Here For You (feat. Laura Walsh) (Extended Mix)” by Gorgon City
“Gecko (Overdrive)” by Oliver Heldens X Becky Hill
“Aeropolis” by BeatauCue
“Astral” by Pyramids

Horizon XS
Horizon XS combines classic acts with hot new bands, all playing the best indie and alternative rock in the perfect festival set.
“Hoochie Coochie” by Band of Skulls
“Peace Keeper” by Bear Hands
“Teenage Rhythm” by GRMLN
“Debaser” by Pixies
“XXX” by The Bohicas
“Just Because” by Jane's Addiction
“Come Closer” by Miles Kane
“Put Me To Work” by Papa
“Train In Vain” by The Clash
“Red Eyes” by The War on Drugs
“Out of the Black” by Royal Blood
“Solemn Skies” by Childhood
“This Much I Care” by Skaters
“Mesmerise” by Temples
“I Come From the Mountain” by Thee Oh Sees
“It's Been So Long” by TOY
“Take It Or Leave It” by Cage The Elephant
“Get Away” by Circa Waves
“All Day” by Tom Williams & The Boat
“Fool For You” by Wild Smiles

Hospital Records Radio
London’s undisputed kings of drum & bass bring all of their top artists to Horizon for the very first time.
“Move Around feat. Ian Shaw” by Camo & Krooked
“Like A Byrd” by Danny Byrd
“Spoken (S.P.Y. Remix)” by Etherwood
“Hydra” by Fred V & Grafix
“Recognise” by Fred V & Grafix
“The Road Goes On Forever” by High Contrast
“Nocturne” by Keeno
“Out Of Nowhere” by Keeno
“Seasons (feat. Lifford)” by Logistics
“Somersaults” by Logistics
“Yikes!” by London Elektricity
“Believe” by Metrik
“Slipstream” by Metrik
“Roundabout” by NuTone
“Valence” by NuTone
“Photone Recruits (Phace Remix)” by Rawtekk
“Break Em” by Reso
“Lunar” by Royalston
“Cold Harsh Air feat. Total Science & Grimm” by S.P.Y.
“Love Life” by Netsky

Innovative Leisure Radio
The LA-based indie label bring their diverse roster of artists, and some brand new, unreleased music to the Horizon stage.
“Crawling After You” by Bass Drum Of Death
“Electric” by Bass Drum Of Death
“Everything's The Same” by Bass Drum Of Death
“Lose My Mind” by Bass Drum Of Death
“All You're Waiting For” by Classixx
“Dominoes” by Classixx
“Stranger Love (RAC Remix)” by Classixx
“Better At Making Time” by De Lux
“It All Works All The Time” by De Lux
“Moments” by De Lux
“Other Side” by Feeding People
“Build, Destroy, Rebuild” by Hanni El Khatib
“Family” by Hanni El Khatib
“Pay No Mind” by Hanni El Khatib
“Reassuring” by Jim-E Stack
“Some Place” by Nick Waterhouse
“Eclipse Blue feat. Kazu Makino” by Nosaj Thing
“Geri” by Superhumanoids
“So Strange” by Superhumanoids
“Cherry Street” by Tijuana Panthers

Ninja Tune Radio
Long-standing British legends Ninja Tune bring their impeccable indie credentials and incredible line-up of artists to Horizon.
“Better Days To Come” by Andreya Triana
“True Skool (feat. Roots Manuva)” by Coldcut
"Spinnaker” by John Matthias
“Friday Fish Fry” by Kelis
“After Dawn” by Letherette
“Champion Nibble” by Mr Scruff
“Wannamama” by Pop Levi
“Krunk Guide” by Roots Manuva
“Rick Rubin (Radio Version)” by Spank Rock
“We Can Make It Out (Yppah Remix)” by Spokes
“Can You Seen Straight” by The Death Set
“How You Like Me Now” by The Heavy
“Wings” by The Invisible
“Renegade” by The Qemists
“Take It Back” by Toddla T
“That Girl” by Two Fingers
“F.I. (Instrumental Mix)” by Wiley
“Again With Subtitles” by Yppah
“Luxelife” by Kid A
“Sun Models (feat. Madelyn Grant)” by ODESZA

Radio Levante
A local radio station based in Tuscany, Radio Levante has been playing classical music to a small, and dwindling, audience for more than forty years.
“Lohengrin - Prelude” - Richard Wagner
“Overture, The Marriage of Figaro” by Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart
“Symphony No. 41, Allegro Vivace” by Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart
“Symphony No. 8 in G major, Allegro con brio” by Antonin Dvorak
“Concerto for 4 Violins, I. Allegro” by Antonio Vivaldi
“Flute Concerto in F Major” by Antonio Vivaldi
“Symphony No. 9, Andante Allegro” by Franz Schubert
“Carmen Suite No. 1: V. Les Toreadors” by Georges Bizet
“Overture, La Cenerentola” by Gioachino Antonio Rossini
“Overture, The Barber of Seville” by Gioachino Antonio Rossini
“Symphony No. 2, Finale, Allegro con spirito” by Johannes Brahms
“The Flower Duet (Lakme)” by Leo Delibes
“Pictures At An Exhibition - The Great Gate Of Kiev” by Modest Petrovich Mussorgsky
“Ride of the Valkyries” by Richard Wagner
“Symphony No. 35, Finale (Presto)” by Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart
“William Tell Overture” by Gioachino Antonio Rossini
“L'Estate, Summer, Le Quattro Stagioni” by Antonio Vivaldi
“Symphony No. 3 in E flat major, Allegro con brio” by Ludwig van Beethoven
“Symphony No. 5 in C minor, Allegro presto” by Ludwig van Beethoven
“1812 Overture” by Pyotr Illich Tchaikovsky

Best track to drive to on that list, will obviously be:

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All we know so far is that its being developed by Sumo using the FH1 engine which means it should be pretty damn good. It also appears to be coming out at the same time as the Xbone version (3rd Oct) according to Amazon anyway.

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As good as FH2 may become, the Xbox One will need quite some more games to convince me to buy one.

Still very curious about the 360 version and how it differs from the One game, mind.

Why is that? Microsoft's ineptitude at launching this console has surely been erased and all that's coming is positive.

Halo? Sunset Overdrive? Quantum Break? The aforementioned Horizon 2?

Man, that's the best FPS, best action game, best story driven game and best racer all on one console. Plus, a slew of amazing looking Indie titles, if that's your thing. All on top of regular updates to make the console the best it can be. What else is there to prove?

But, whatever it is I've missed, MS seem to be hugely keen to win every genre of gaming. Something I don't doubt they'll accomplish. Whether they can win all the Sony defectors back round is another matter though, but, fucking hell, you can't say they aren't going down guns blazing.

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Fh1 on 360 won't have dynamic weather, seemless switching between offline and online, 1080p, open wheel cars, or any features that are only capable thanks to either the Forza Motorsport 5 engine and the Xbox One's cloud/dedicated server network.

Essentially it will be FH1 with a new map. Which means it's already a classic racer. It will however work with all 360 compatible racing wheels, have a solid framerate, extend the life of the 360, not require enormous updates, benefit at least one rllmuk poster Sol, bring some old mukkers together for epic fun and possibly be the best 360 racing game to date.

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Soundtrack announced and I pretty much could've guessed the majority of these. Unsuprisingly Horizon Pulse is right up my street

Full list in the spoiler.

Horizon Pulse

The festival’s coolest selection of laidback pop, summery nu-disco and electronica – perfect for cruising with the roof down as the sun sets.

“I Might Survive (Goldroom Remix)” by Architecture In Helsinki

“Busy Earnin'” by Jungle

“The Heat” by Jungle

“Luna” by Bombay Bicycle Club

“The Mother We Share” by CHVRCHES

“Free Your Mind” by Cut Copy

“Love Sublime (feat. Nile Rodgers & Fiora)” by Tensnake

“Bridge & Tunnel” by Holy Ghost!

“Never” by Phonat

“Can't Beat The Old School (feat. Jasper Wilde)” by Bo Saris

“Come Alive (feat. Toro y Moi)” by Chromeo

“Jealous (I Ain't With It)” by Chromeo

“Operators” by Jetta

“Always (Classixx Remix)” by Panama

“Brighter Days” by Saint Raymond

“Pica Disco” by Lazyboy

“Klapp Klapp” by Little Dragon

“With You Forever” by Pnau

“Wolves (feat. Youngblood Hawke) (RAC Remix)” by Digitalism

“Nitrous” by Nick Mulvey

“Sea” by Roosevelt

“The Phoenix” by Pyramids

Horizon Bass Arena

From house to electro and techno, Horizon Bass Arena plays the biggest dancefloor anthems of the year all night long.

“I Got U feat. Jax Jones” by Duke Dumont

“Still (Richy Ahmed Remix)” by Katy B

“Hey Now (Arty Remix)” by London Grammar

“Only For You” by Mat Zo

“Touch (Grum Remix)” by Shift K3Y

“NRG” by Duck Sauce

“Changes” by Faul & Wad Ad & Pnau

“Crisis” by Turtle

“Thinking About It” by Just Kiddin

“Running (Disclosure Remix)” by Jessie Ware

“Satisfy” by Nero

“F.A.T. (Original Mix)” by Pryda

“36” by Redlight

“Hyperparadise (GANZ Flip)” by Hermitude x Flume

“Survive” by Kidnap Kid

“Pushing On” by Oliver $ & Jimi Jules

“Delorean Dynamite” by Todd Terje

“Liberate” by Eric Prydz

“Here For You (feat. Laura Walsh) (Extended Mix)” by Gorgon City

“Gecko (Overdrive)” by Oliver Heldens X Becky Hill

“Aeropolis” by BeatauCue

“Astral” by Pyramids

Horizon XS

Horizon XS combines classic acts with hot new bands, all playing the best indie and alternative rock in the perfect festival set.

“Hoochie Coochie” by Band of Skulls

“Peace Keeper” by Bear Hands

“Teenage Rhythm” by GRMLN

“Debaser” by Pixies

“XXX” by The Bohicas

“Just Because” by Jane's Addiction

“Come Closer” by Miles Kane

“Put Me To Work” by Papa

“Train In Vain” by The Clash

“Red Eyes” by The War on Drugs

“Out of the Black” by Royal Blood

“Solemn Skies” by Childhood

“This Much I Care” by Skaters

“Mesmerise” by Temples

“I Come From the Mountain” by Thee Oh Sees

“It's Been So Long” by TOY

“Take It Or Leave It” by Cage The Elephant

“Get Away” by Circa Waves

“All Day” by Tom Williams & The Boat

“Fool For You” by Wild Smiles

Hospital Records Radio

London’s undisputed kings of drum & bass bring all of their top artists to Horizon for the very first time.

“Move Around feat. Ian Shaw” by Camo & Krooked

“Like A Byrd” by Danny Byrd

“Spoken (S.P.Y. Remix)” by Etherwood

“Hydra” by Fred V & Grafix

“Recognise” by Fred V & Grafix

“The Road Goes On Forever” by High Contrast

“Nocturne” by Keeno

“Out Of Nowhere” by Keeno

“Seasons (feat. Lifford)” by Logistics

“Somersaults” by Logistics

“Yikes!” by London Elektricity

“Believe” by Metrik

“Slipstream” by Metrik

“Roundabout” by NuTone

“Valence” by NuTone

“Photone Recruits (Phace Remix)” by Rawtekk

“Break Em” by Reso

“Lunar” by Royalston

“Cold Harsh Air feat. Total Science & Grimm” by S.P.Y.

“Love Life” by Netsky

Innovative Leisure Radio

The LA-based indie label bring their diverse roster of artists, and some brand new, unreleased music to the Horizon stage.

“Crawling After You” by Bass Drum Of Death

“Electric” by Bass Drum Of Death

“Everything's The Same” by Bass Drum Of Death

“Lose My Mind” by Bass Drum Of Death

“All You're Waiting For” by Classixx

“Dominoes” by Classixx

“Stranger Love (RAC Remix)” by Classixx

“Better At Making Time” by De Lux

“It All Works All The Time” by De Lux

“Moments” by De Lux

“Other Side” by Feeding People

“Build, Destroy, Rebuild” by Hanni El Khatib

“Family” by Hanni El Khatib

“Pay No Mind” by Hanni El Khatib

“Reassuring” by Jim-E Stack

“Some Place” by Nick Waterhouse

“Eclipse Blue feat. Kazu Makino” by Nosaj Thing

“Geri” by Superhumanoids

“So Strange” by Superhumanoids

“Cherry Street” by Tijuana Panthers

Ninja Tune Radio

Long-standing British legends Ninja Tune bring their impeccable indie credentials and incredible line-up of artists to Horizon.

“Better Days To Come” by Andreya Triana

“True Skool (feat. Roots Manuva)” by Coldcut

"Spinnaker” by John Matthias

“Friday Fish Fry” by Kelis

“After Dawn” by Letherette

“Champion Nibble” by Mr Scruff

“Wannamama” by Pop Levi

“Krunk Guide” by Roots Manuva

“Rick Rubin (Radio Version)” by Spank Rock

“We Can Make It Out (Yppah Remix)” by Spokes

“Can You Seen Straight” by The Death Set

“How You Like Me Now” by The Heavy

“Wings” by The Invisible

“Renegade” by The Qemists

“Take It Back” by Toddla T

“That Girl” by Two Fingers

“F.I. (Instrumental Mix)” by Wiley

“Again With Subtitles” by Yppah

“Luxelife” by Kid A

“Sun Models (feat. Madelyn Grant)” by ODESZA

Radio Levante

A local radio station based in Tuscany, Radio Levante has been playing classical music to a small, and dwindling, audience for more than forty years.

“Lohengrin - Prelude” - Richard Wagner

“Overture, The Marriage of Figaro” by Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart

“Symphony No. 41, Allegro Vivace” by Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart

“Symphony No. 8 in G major, Allegro con brio” by Antonin Dvorak

“Concerto for 4 Violins, I. Allegro” by Antonio Vivaldi

“Flute Concerto in F Major” by Antonio Vivaldi

“Symphony No. 9, Andante Allegro” by Franz Schubert

“Carmen Suite No. 1: V. Les Toreadors” by Georges Bizet

“Overture, La Cenerentola” by Gioachino Antonio Rossini

“Overture, The Barber of Seville” by Gioachino Antonio Rossini

“Symphony No. 2, Finale, Allegro con spirito” by Johannes Brahms

“The Flower Duet (Lakme)” by Leo Delibes

“Pictures At An Exhibition - The Great Gate Of Kiev” by Modest Petrovich Mussorgsky

“Ride of the Valkyries” by Richard Wagner

“Symphony No. 35, Finale (Presto)” by Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart

“William Tell Overture” by Gioachino Antonio Rossini

“L'Estate, Summer, Le Quattro Stagioni” by Antonio Vivaldi

“Symphony No. 3 in E flat major, Allegro con brio” by Ludwig van Beethoven

“Symphony No. 5 in C minor, Allegro presto” by Ludwig van Beethoven

“1812 Overture” by Pyotr Illich Tchaikovsky

Best track to drive to on that list, will obviously be:

Cheers for that, I've made a Horizon Pulse playlist in Spotify to play in the car for my commute.

Link here for anyone who'd like it, I think I have all the right versions of the tracks:

http://open.spotify.com/user/fletch777/playlist/1TiC0vOR9EigFrYccFv09t

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Hey Krypt! I'm fine (apart from being hit by a vehicle 6 weeks ago, getting better though) but ever since the Bone and PS4 were released in the UK, a lot of you jumped the next gen bandwagon which left me all alone with my dated 360. ;)

Bone is still not out here so I have little to discuss on here. And it seems the forum has gone completely Sony minded. :lol:

Shit, hope it wasn't a serious crash :(

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