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26 minutes ago, MidWalian said:

Eurogamer is speculating that there may be a boost mode for the Switch in handheld mode and that Zelda may be using it:

 

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-new-performance-mode-boosts-handheld-switch-clocks-by-25-per-cent

Yeah an interesting one this. Very nice boost to handheld power which puts the machine nicely above the WiiU. Also could mean that future firmware could boost a little bit more in handheld should there be demand for it.

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They could just as easily unlock the docked clocks, but considering they mentioned the power draw they've tested so far with it docked, you'd be looking at a little over 1 hours worth of runtime on a new battery on the launch revision hardware, the PSP was downclocked by 33% initially for similar reasons, until the later revisions allowed them to put it back up and still maintain battery life.

 

The guess that Zelda uses the new upclocked profile in portable mode is likely correct, considering the reports of performance problems with the docked mode, which should have no problem matching the portable performance if the gap was still 150%, rather than now being only 100% more power available.

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50 minutes ago, Strafe said:

The 3G Vita was £280 and that was in 2012. Nobody used the 3G except to buy a £5 Vodafone SIM card and get wipeout for free. (The pauper Vita was still £230).

 

Let's not forget that you had to buy proprietary memory cards, too.

 

Considering the Switch is a full console, I think it's a decent deal.

 

Also, if you voted leave and are also complaining about the price there is a special circle in hell for you.

 

But you're thinking justifiable cost and personal interest whereas the real issue for the success of the Switch is what lots and lots of other people are willing to pay for it.

 

I mean, the Vita flopped and Sony stopped supporting it. So maybe a comparison to the Vita doesn't do the argument any favours. 

 

I would like this to not be the last Nintendo console, and that's despite being very much turned off by their last two. If they can't sell enough, because they're too expensive, then might find themselves with another WIIU and decide to call it a day. 

 

That said, I think it's got a much, much better chance than the WiiU and I've said that from the first reveal. This has a much better and useful USP, that is sold much more clearly through marketing, and has catchy branding across the board. 

 

It sounds fun, looks fun, has a unique angle that ACTUALLY MATTERS, has a great name, great logo and great advertising. It's already way ahead of the WiiU. 

 

 

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44 minutes ago, the_debaser said:

Given the reception that Zelda is getting I'd have no issues dropping over £500 on it. It's going to be an incredible experience. 

 

Again, great good for you, but that's not going to stop it from selling poorly if others find it too high. 

 

We're not talking about ancient history here, Nintendo just shitcanned their last console which flopped big time. 

47 minutes ago, Fallows said:

I wish there was a pro version releasing on the exact same day for £500 with double the RAM, storage, and GPU bandwidth for 60fps Zelda. I'd be all over it. 

 

Idiots blow much more than that on phones. My wife spent £600 on her Note3 and that only lasted three years. What a waste.

 

The problem with that is the battery life. And the battery life is clearly already the biggest weakness with the Switch.

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It's not an argument, I just don't think it's an unreasonable price. I'd agree that it would be better for them to pitch it lower or at least add more multimedia capabilities to it to help it compete with an iPad.

 

But yeah. A full blown console and two controllers for £280 seems alright to me when compared to any other machine launch I can think of (bar the Wii which was £200 I think).

 

 

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Selling my WiiU to fund a Switch, got about 12 games as digital.  Some are installed and some aren't due to space so would need re-downloading

 

Possible if I give them access to my NNID, as long as I don't mind starting a new NNID for Switch?

 

Or is it just not worth it, how much would these digital ones realistically add anyway, there's a big bundle of disc games as well:

 

Mario Kart 8
Mario Maker
Yoshis Woolly World (not installed)
Zelda Twilight Princess HD
Wii Fit U
Splatoon (not installed)
Kirby & Rainbow Paintbrush (not installed)
Mario Party 10 (not installed)
Game & Wario (not installed)

 

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3 minutes ago, Jonnycash said:

Anyone getting Bomberman on day one or am I the only crazy one paying £45 for it. 

 

I've got it pre ordered and I'm sure I'll play it enough for it to be justified. If not, who cares. LAUNCH DAY. 

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2 hours ago, MidWalian said:

I don't mind the price as I originally did. As well as a home console I know I will use it a lot as a handheld too. My son will also get to use it and my non-gaming wife really wants to play Snipperclips. 

 

But I don't see it doing that well at the current price. I think it needs to be under £250 with a pack-in game to stand a chance of success. It also needs monster hunter, Pokémon and Minecraft.

 

I am concerned that this could be the Nintendo equivalent of the Dreamcast.

 

Sega's games were the best they'd ever been on Dreamcast, so not much danger of that here.

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2 hours ago, Strafe said:

The 3G Vita was £280 and that was in 2012. Nobody used the 3G except to buy a £5 Vodafone SIM card and get wipeout for free. (The pauper Vita was still £230).

 

Let's not forget that you had to buy proprietary memory cards, too.

 

Considering the Switch is a full console, I think it's a decent deal.

 

The Vita that died on its arse after nobody bought it?

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2 minutes ago, Profgoten said:

Am I the only one who would like to see Dark souls on the switch? 

 

I'd buy anything with Dark Souls on it.

 

1 minute ago, ann coulter said:

 

The Vita which didn't have Monster Hunter, Pokemon, Dragon Quest or any other Japanese system sellers, yes.

 

That's a lot of games that aren't confirmed for the Switch. There's DQ coming, though X will only come to Japan and is a port of an old game. XI is also coming to PS4. Aside from internet crazies, there's absolutely no indication we're getting a proper Pokémon or MH game for the Switch. Every Nintendo home console has a shit Pokémon spin off.

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7 minutes ago, Broker said:

 

I'd buy anything with Dark Souls on it.

 

 

That's a lot of games that aren't confirmed for the Switch. There's DQ coming, though X will only come to Japan and is a port of an old game. XI is also coming to PS4. Aside from internet crazies, there's absolutely no indication we're getting a proper Pokémon or MH game for the Switch. Every Nintendo home console has a shit Pokémon spin off.

 

I mean, unless they just stop making games in these franchises, for which systems do you expect Capcom and Game Freak to make these low budget, handheld-oriented games over the next five years? 3DS and mobile are possible, I guess.

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1 hour ago, pulsemyne said:

Yeah an interesting one this. Very nice boost to handheld power which puts the machine nicely above the WiiU. Also could mean that future firmware could boost a little bit more in handheld should there be demand for it.

I'm confused (nothing new) but what's with the reports of Zelda struggling in docked mode but not handheld. Why would that be? What obvious point am I missing?

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4 hours ago, MidWalian said:

Snipperclips will have a demo too if people aren't sure. I think it looks great.

 

I'm just going to buy it, it looks so cool that I'm willing to take a gamble on it - Vita has defi been the console that opened my eyes to the more indie game stuff that this feels like :)

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Just now, g wings said:

I'm confused (nothing new) but what's with the reports of Zelda struggling in docked mode but not handheld. Why would that be? What obvious point am I missing?

I heard it was just when you first dock it, as if it takes a moment to power up to display the gorgeous environments in glorious 900p. Makes sense.

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24 minutes ago, ann coulter said:

 

I mean, unless they just stop making games in these franchises, for which systems do you expect Capcom and Game Freak to make these low budget, handheld-oriented games over the next five years? 3DS and mobile are possible, I guess.

 

Absolutely 3DS. MH ended up on those platforms to decrease Dec costs, which will still be much higher on Switch than 3DS. Nintendo have never made a Pokemon game up to home console standards, and constantly struggle to produce modern looking games in reasonable timeframes. They just sold millions of 3DS units at Christmas, and there will be tonnes of new users in there. There's still games coming and they don't want new owners to feel shafted. Actually it's Nintendo, so scratch the last one.

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21 minutes ago, g wings said:

I'm confused (nothing new) but what's with the reports of Zelda struggling in docked mode but not handheld. Why would that be? What obvious point am I missing?

 

 

I haven't heard that but I assume the screen is less than the 900p that the docked game outputs? 

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