Nintendo Switch

[revlob]

1 minute ago, Sumire said:

I pre-ordered the console and Zelda. What other tat do I definitely need on day one?  Do I need to buy that £65.00 controller?

 

You don't need it, but then you don't technically need to wash regularly either.

[JPickford]

[the_debaser]

You'll want one if you want to play a game that uses a d-pad, like when they bring out a new 2d platformer or if you want to play SF2 without it being hobbled. 

[MidWalian]

Snipperclips at launch, also a demo. Good stuff!

 

 

[revlob]

Having difficulty focusing on real life now. I'm going to be on autopilot for the next seven days.

[Shimmyhill]

1 minute ago, MidWalian said:

Snipperclips at launch, also a demo. Good stuff!

 

 

 

Sweeeeeeeet, wonder where the joy con set is gonna be sold

[Fusty Gusset]

12 minutes ago, Sumire said:

I pre-ordered the console and Zelda. What other tat do I definitely need on day one?  Do I need to buy that £65.00 controller?

 

YES

 

and possibly a case/screen protector?

[revlob]

3 minutes ago, MidWalian said:

Snipperclips at launch, also a demo. Good stuff!

 

 

 

Twelve launch titles confirmed now. Can we still say it has no games? 

[Strafe]

4 minutes ago, MidWalian said:

Snipperclips at launch, also a demo. Good stuff!

 

 

ohgod

[Strafe]

Can't find any other details apart from that tweet. Nothing about UK specifically. 

[the_debaser]

I think snipperclips looks rubbish. 

[Strafe]

The true cost of Brexit.

[jonamok]

SnipUkips.

[Adrock]

Snipperclips is bundled with 2 neon joy con. That will probably increase my launch spend.

[rgraves]

15 hours ago, HarryBizzle said:

You're saying that he is misrepresenting his opinion in order to "stir something up," is "looking for an angle" and that he is somehow trying to get his "content" (a tweet. He hasn't reviewed the device for Kotaku.) noticed by doing this.

 

i.e. that he is misrepresenting his opinion in order to generate clicks and if he were instead, honestly representing his opinions that wouldn't be an interesting enough "angle."

 

You also keep saying that this is somehow part of his job and that rather than trying to write a genuinely interesting or informative piece, the way to succeed in writing is just to "stir something up."

So, I *didn't* say he was lying or making anything up then. And *you're* inserting the word 'misrepresenting' everywhere to make it look like I did, when in fact it's not in any of my posts (which is why you can't surround it with ""). I said, and I stand by it, that as a journalist he (as is perfectly reasonable) was looking for an angle on Switch news that might just generate some traffic and discussion.

 

I'd appreciate if you'd at least acknowledge that inferring I was a liar that needed to 'backpedal' was wrong and incorrect on your part - especially since you got so antsy about me possibly (but in fact actually not at all) doing it to somebody else. Just asking for some consistency on your end please.

[Strafe]

1 minute ago, Adrock said:

Snipperclips is bundled with 2 neon joy con. That will probably increase my launch spend.

Bit harsh if you bought the neon model and planned to buy greys.

[JPickford]

Just now, Strafe said:

Bit harsh if you bought the neon model and planned to buy greys.

 

Good negative spotting there.

[rgraves]

I can't say that I'm all that interested in Snipperclips, doesn't really look my kind of thing....but now it has that 'Wii Play' value allure to it with the bundled Joy Cons. Arrghhhhhh.

[eddydonuk]

Is anyone genuinely worried enough about this joycon issue to cancel their pre-order?

[JPickford]

2 minutes ago, eddydonuk said:

Is anyone genuinely worried enough about this joycon issue to cancel their pre-order?

I've ordered another.

[rgraves]

1 minute ago, eddydonuk said:

Is anyone genuinely worried enough about this joycon issue to cancel their pre-order?

Only, I suspect, those people that placed a pre-order knowing full well they'd come up with a reason to cancel it closer to the time anyway.

[SpagMasterSwift]

I watched the Snipperclips vid with the wife and she was captivated like a cat looking at a dancing spot of light - so I'm in for that. Last time we co-oped a game together was Portal 2. 

[Strafe]

6 minutes ago, JPickford said:

 

Good negative spotting there.

 

Positive for me. Gives me reason to finally go with the grey order after weeks of indecision. I'm over the moon, pal. 

[GokouD]

I wonder if the coloured joy-cons are just the regular neon ones? It'd be cool if they were pink and yellow to match the Snipperclips characters.

[daifuco]

I know it sounds a bit too humble but maybe if we try to not replicate the wireless problem it won't happen.

[MidWalian]

6 minutes ago, eddydonuk said:

Is anyone genuinely worried enough about this joycon issue to cancel their pre-order?

 

Yes. I haven't cancelled yet though. I'm hoping Nintendo will release a statement or something today. If it can be solved via a firmware update then I'm still in. 

[Don Wiskerando]

11 hours ago, Stanley said:

childish

 

 

11 hours ago, Broker said:

Universal acclaim aside from the issues with the left joycon and the undercooked UI and stuff. 

 

Feel free to be excited. You can even be a cunt to people who aren't excited. If you're going to be as smug as you are though, you could really do with actually being funny. Or interesting.

 

[Luseth]

11 minutes ago, eddydonuk said:

Is anyone genuinely worried enough about this joycon issue to cancel their pre-order?

 

Nah I wouldn't be unless you plan to play the console with your hands tied behind your back.... 

[Paulando]

Made up Snipperclips is day one. Would have had that Joy-Con pack though, but my Neon Joy-Cons from the Nintendo Store have already been charged for 

[HarMGM]

For anybody who's worried about the Joy-Con issue, it seems the problem can be fixed. An eagle eyed member from NeoGaf had this to say:

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Since I have nothing better to do I tried to look into any FCC filings for the Joy-Cons. If HAC-015 (https://fccid.io/BKEHAC015) is the left Joy-Con, which seems likely, then we already have some information about the maximum output power.

http://i.imgur.com/HgW09v8.png
This suggests the output power is around 3-4 dBm, which is in-line with what you would expect from a Bluetooth Class2 device (maximum output power of 4dBm). While Bluetooth technically allows up to 20dBm output power for Class1 devices, most chips today will allow up to 10dBm output power. This is informally known as Class1.5 and is common since FCC does not require SAR testing for any devices with an output power below 10dBm.

The good news is then that Nintendo will most likely be able to increase the output power by around 6dB, which should in theory give around twice the current range. This will also not negatively affect the Battery life significantly, as the chip will dynamically change the output power as required. So the additional power will only be used when it otherwise would lose the connection.

The bad news is that the Joy-Cons will have to be re-certified, which means that Nintendo will likely not be able to have this done as a day-one firmware update unless they already caught this issue ahead of time and are in the process of fixing it already. (They will also likely have to measure SAR as well even if they are below the 10dBm limit, since Canada recently lowered the limit where you do not have to measure SAR to 6dBm).

The thing that surprises me however is that 4dBm should absolutely be enough power for the type of environments shown in the video above. Deliberately covering the entire device with both hands will probably always be a problem. The antenna is probably quite narrowband so doing that will likely detune it as well causing even more losses than what you get anyway from the absorption in the hands. But simply placing the device behind the back and breaking line-of-sight? When you are indoors and only a few meters away from the main console, this should absolutely not be a problem. So unless there is something really strange going on with their antennas (like if they didn't account for the detuning that might happen when you hold the device normally) then it might actually be possible that the real Joy-Cons are using lower power than they are certified for, either due to a firmware bug or because someone though it would increase battery life (it really shouldn't). In that case, it would be fairly simple to issue a new firmware to increase the power.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=230923326&postcount=947

TL;DR: Nintendo can fix this with a firmware update. Possibly on launch day or close to launch.