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There was a very interesting episode of the Retronauts podcast recently, focusing on the Nintendo Wii. (and one further back focusing on the DS)

 

A lot of the guys chatting were journalists at the time, at big places like 1UP or magazines or whatnot.

They mention how hardly anybody was interested in the Wii in that entire sphere. They were all connected to each other on Xbox Live, across publications, and did the whole thing of following each other around from game to game, all swept up with Gears of War/Halo 3/COD hype.

 

They also mentioned that Wii (and DS) articles got almost no clicks. I think they mention the very real need to put a bit of spin on any piece of news to get at least some interest. Not always negative? Can't remember.

 

The DS podcast was interesting, because Jeremy Parish alluded that his site literally couldn't get anyone to take the DS home to play with it until he stepped up, so enamoured was everyone by the PSP. Same again, it became really popular with people who didn't read their site, an the articles they felt oblidged to served up got way less traffic than anything 360 related.

I think they also mentioned that Nintendo PR were absolutely dreadful/stand-offish, compared Sony/Microsoft, and that often coloured a lot of what was written about them.

 

The early PS3 life-cycle, WiiU and current XBox One suffered/are suffering a bit of a similar fate I think. Just complete dis-interest from the industry press, which can be easily read as negativity. The Switch will obviously suffer from this.

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5 minutes ago, pulsemyne said:

They are all missing the day one update. The rumour is the issue appears to be to do with wireless interference and it occurs because the left joycon is slaved to the right one in some way. Should be an easy fix of the firmware. 

 

Huge if true. Wireless earbuds that aren't AirPods have loads of issues with this and connectivity/lag.

 

No convincing reason for having them slaved like that unless it's cost.

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I don't get this 'big worry' thing?  Does anyone seriously think there's some fundamental design flaw with joyCon syncing?   It's either a firmware glitch or a faulty batch.   Absolute worst case is some people might have to return them for a replacement.   What is there to worry about?

 

This clinging onto to any potential negative is daft.   No VC at launch (as usual).   Who buys a new console to play the same old emulated games they have on their current machine?   VC is great but hardly critical at launch.

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38 minutes ago, HarryBizzle said:

Get a grip. If Nintendo really think that the media need the Day 1 patch to do their jobs properly they should either embargo the thing until it's out or give them the patch early.

I'm not saying he needs the day 1 patch to do his job - I'm just saying he's clearly looking for an angle (it's his job to do so, that's not meant as an insult), and he's coming up with "No Day 1 VC" and "No Activity Log" - it's hardly catastrophe, and hardly (IMO) worthy of the somewhat inflammatory label 'undercooked'. Some might think it is I guess, I don't. Opinions.

 

The joy con sync issue is much, much more of a worry - though it appears to be pretty patchy as plenty of folks are also reporting they've not seen it at all on their units. This is the first time it's really come out as news, and yet hundreds of people have had access to them all over the world in recent months. Let's cross our fingers - as surely we don't want it to be a big issue - that would be of benefit to absolutely nobody.

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Perhaps the joycon thing is range related? All of the events are tightly controlled, with close sitting distances. In the real world people play up to 10-12 feet away? Maybe it's interference in their set ups. No reason this hasn't been there as a potential issue all along.

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2 minutes ago, jonamok said:

Perhaps the joycon thing is range related? All of the events are tightly controlled, with close sitting distances. In the real world people play up to 10-12 feet away? Maybe it's interference in their set ups. No reason this hasn't been there as a potential issue all along.

That would affect both though - not just the left one shirley?

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8 minutes ago, HarryBizzle said:

Finally cancelled my preorder. I think I'll feel a lot better getting one when Mario I'd out and when they've presumably actually fleshed the system functions out. 

 

Come the third you'll be a weeping mess.

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16 minutes ago, rgraves said:

I'm not saying he needs the day 1 patch to do his job - I'm just saying he's clearly looking for an angle (it's his job to do so, that's not meant as an insult), and he's coming up with "No Day 1 VC" and "No Activity Log" - it's hardly catastrophe, and hardly (IMO) worthy of the somewhat inflammatory label 'undercooked'. Some might think it is I guess, I don't. Opinions.

 

The joy con sync issue is much, much more of a worry - though it appears to be pretty patchy as plenty of folks are also reporting they've not seen it at all on their units. This is the first time it's really come out as news, and yet hundreds of people have had access to them all over the world in recent months. Let's cross our fingers - as surely we don't want it to be a big issue - that would be of benefit to absolutely nobody.

 

Ignoring the fact that you look utterly ridiculous hiding behind "opinions" while simultaneously accusing him of fabricating an opinion for clicks, not having basic features which you intend to implement is pretty much the definition of "undercooked."

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That nintendo negativity has always existed.

In the old times Sega was the trendy choice for the 14 yo grown up.

Sony and Microsoft went further and made the Playstation and XBOX the adult choice.

Kids who wanted to play adult had to have the mature console. Some of them became the gaming journalist of today.

 

In the DS/Wii era Nintendo stroke back with the Play Generations campaign, It worked well. "nintendo daddies play Mario Kart with their  kids".

Now I think nintendo goes after both  families with nintendo daddies and newer youngsters, the ones that find non mobile platform just hilarious.

 

 

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5 minutes ago, rgraves said:

That would affect both though - not just the left one shirley?

Just read post from Gaf (I know) that says the problem is indeed linked to range, and for him isn't an issue less than 6ft from the Switch, like playing in the office, but is beyond that, like in the lounge.

 

Tiny bit worried now.

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1 minute ago, jonamok said:

Just read post from Gaf (I know) that says the problem is indeed linked to range, and for him isn't an issue less than 6ft from the Switch, like playing in the office, but is beyond that, like in the lounge.

 

Tiny bit worried now.

 

I guess there will be no issues in Japanese living rooms then!

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8 minutes ago, HarryBizzle said:

Ignoring the fact that look utterly ridiculous hiding behind "opinions" while simultaneously accusing him of fabricating an opinion for clicks, not having features which you intend to implement is pretty much the definition of "undercooked."

I'm not accusing him of "fabricating" anything at all. I've never said that. Don't get all angry at things I've not done. He's clearly not lying is he - there is no day 1 VC and there is apparently no activity log. They are facts that can't be denied.

 

I'm saying I don't think they are massive issues - not that he's just making them up. Please understand.

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5 minutes ago, jonamok said:

Just read post from Gaf (I know) that says the problem is indeed linked to range, and for him isn't an issue less than 6ft from the Switch, like playing in the office, but is beyond that, like in the lounge.

 

Tiny bit worried now.

But, as I said, if it was linked to range why does it only appear to be the left joy con that is affected. Surely it would be both - but nobody, nobody at all, has reported issues with the right joy con have they? So it can't be just range (unless those with issues have especially long arms and like to always sit with the Switch on their right side?)

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4 minutes ago, rgraves said:

I'm not accusing him of "fabricating" anything at all. I've never said that. Don't get all angry at things I've not done. He's clearly not lying is he - there is no day 1 VC and there is apparently no activity log. They are facts that can't be denied.

 

I'm saying I don't think they are massive issues - not that he's just making them up. Please understand.

 

Backpedal harder, you're nearly there. 

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16 minutes ago, Shimmyhill said:

 

H U G E

 

Well, only huge if you don't like lag I suppose. I've seen you playing Titanfall so I guess it doesn't matter that much to you.

 

It would be pretty weird if this was the case, a slaved unit. Must be lies.

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26 minutes ago, JPickford said:

I don't get this 'big worry' thing?  Does anyone seriously think there's some fundamental design flaw with joyCon syncing?   It's either a firmware glitch or a faulty batch.   Absolute worst case is some people might have to return them for a replacement.   What is there to worry about?

 

This clinging onto to any potential negative is daft.   No VC at launch (as usual).   Who buys a new console to play the same old emulated games they have on their current machine?   VC is great but hardly critical at launch.

 

With you on the VC but having a broken joycon on launch date? End of days.

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2 minutes ago, Strafe said:

 

Well, only huge if you don't like lag I suppose. I've seen you playing Titanfall so I guess it doesn't matter that much to you.

 

It would be pretty weird if this was the case, a slaved unit. Must be lies.

 

Firstly stop looking through my bloody windows, if you want some tips just knock on my door and we can sit down and have a game :P

 

Secondly its not huge, it would be huge if every pad is fucked on launch day and we all have the issue - as it is a minority of people with early kit on an old firmware have an issue so while I trust it will be resolved on launch day it is certainly something to keep on eye on early doors with console in hand.

 

 

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Anyone else annoyed now that we've seen game unboxings that Nintendo will be continuing the trend of zero reward points for physical purchases? Was a piece of paper so hard to print? Fuck off

 

So the whole account redesign was partly to shaft us.

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