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Stop and engage your brain Mushashi ;) Switch is a handheld machine. Forget that it plugs into the TV. That's just marketing. The reason anyone is buying this thing is because it's a portable. They're salivating at the thought of playing Zelda and Mario Kart away from the TV. If that wasn't case they'd just jyst stick with the Wii U.

 

Nintendo would not release a new handheld unless they had hopes of it succeeding the last one. In this case the 3DS. Yes they're still supporting the 3DS, in the same way that Sony kept supporting the PS3, MS the 360. 

 

Handhelds are their forte and this is definitely planned as the 3DS successor.

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What Stanley said.

 

Though it is true you maybe wouldn't give a Switch to a very young child. Therefore it's not impossible to think Nintendo will make a very basic and cheap handheld device for toddlers. That won't be the successor to the 3DS because the Switch is that machine. No, it'll be something new. So technically Mushi could still be correct. There would be two pillars. But he'd also be very wrong.

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13 minutes ago, Stanley said:

Stop and engage your brain Mushashi ;) Switch is a handheld machine. Forget that it plugs into the TV. That's just marketing. The reason anyone is buying this thing is because it's a portable. They're salivating at the thought of playing Zelda and Mario Kart away from the TV. If that wasn't case they'd just jyst stick with the Wii U.

Eh? I'm not buying it primarily as a portable. I'm getting one because it's the next Nintendo machine and will play host to their next range of games. Games that won't be on Wii U, and games that use the extra features/grunt Switch has over Wii U. I'd buy anything to play more Splatoon really. The portable aspect is certainly lovely, but it's far from the main reason I'm getting one,

 

I'd bet a pretty big portion of the market will be people that only occasionally (a few times a month/year) use the portable aspect. 

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1 hour ago, Majora said:

You can book tickets here to try out the Switch and The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild, Splatoon 2, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, ARMS, 1-2-Switch and Snipperclips. Tickets are for a 2 hour block and you can book for 2 people. Events take place across February in Birmingham, Manchester and London:

 

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2017/02/nintendo_switch_hands-on_events_are_taking_place_in_the_uk_this_month

 

Just booked 2 tickets for London on the 25th. It'll spoil launch day a little bit I guess, but I really want to try it out and reassure myself about spending 280 quid on it.

 

I was going to but I want to go into this fresh and uncontaminated, setting myself up for either massive euphoria or massive disappointment.

 

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2 minutes ago, Indy @ S.E. said:

 

I was going to but I want to go into this fresh and uncontaminated, setting myself up for either massive euphoria or massive disappointment.

 

 

You could go and only play Splatoon2 and MK8D, as Splatoon won't be out for a while, and MK8D won't spoil too much - it'll simply be a laugh playing over local wifi.

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“TumbleSeed will make unique use of the Nintendo Switch HD Rumble,” wrote publisher aeiowu in a press release issued today, “offering a unique sense of how fast and where the player is rolling in the world. The Nintendo Switch is the only game console available that can provide this experience and TumbleSeed aims to be the console's flagship title for HD Rumble.”

Nintendo itself chimed in to support the game. Indie game manager Kirk Scott said that "TumbleSeed is perfect for 10-20 minutes play sessions anywhere you may go and also great for a couch-session in 1080p at home,” adding that the game “is made with the same spirit as any major title on a Nintendo system.”

TumbleSeed is also slated for release on Mac, Windows PC and PlayStation 4.

 

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9 minutes ago, macosx said:

The portable aspect of the Switch hardly registers for me as a purchase. Although if they can pull off the trick that Apple often do in creating something that you didn't think you need and making it essential. 

 

Bed compatible!!!

Play your RPG just like you read your books!!!

She wants to watch that lame program on 4oD?  Good!!!

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29 minutes ago, rgraves said:

Eh? I'm not buying it primarily as a portable. I'm getting one because it's the next Nintendo machine and will play host to their next range of games. Games that won't be on Wii U, and games that use the extra features/grunt Switch has over Wii U. I'd buy anything to play more Splatoon really. The portable aspect is certainly lovely, but it's far from the main reason I'm getting one,

 

I'd bet a pretty big portion of the market will be people that only occasionally (a few times a month/year) use the portable aspect. 

It's portable aspect is still it's main selling point, it's USP if you like. Without that it's pretty underwhelming as a home console at that price.

 

I think the biggest portion of its users who really only want a home console will buy the TV only version when that comes out, because it will work out way cheaper and hence make it more attractive. 

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32 minutes ago, rgraves said:

Eh? I'm not buying it primarily as a portable. I'm getting one because it's the next Nintendo machine and will play host to their next range of games. Games that won't be on Wii U, and games that use the extra features/grunt Switch has over Wii U. I'd buy anything to play more Splatoon really. The portable aspect is certainly lovely, but it's far from the main reason I'm getting one,

 

I'd bet a pretty big portion of the market will be people that only occasionally (a few times a month/year) use the portable aspect. 

Exactly. Handheld/home console. Doesn't matter. It's the next Nintendo.

 

It's like laptop computers. Nobody thinks of them as portable computers. They're just computers. My laptop has been out of the house once. Does that mean I'd prefer a desktop? Fuck that. You can take your fucking desktop computer and shove it right up your pipe. 

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1 minute ago, Stanley said:

It's portable aspect is still it's main selling point, it's USP if you like. Without that it's pretty underwhelming as a home console at that price.

 

I think the biggest portion of its users who really only want a home console will buy the TV only version when that comes out, because it will work out way cheaper and hence make it more attractive. 

The selling point is the switching between the two modes.   So the selling point absolutely relies on it being portable but ALSO a viable static console.   

I think all the arguments about it mainly being portable or static are daft.   The whole point is it's both.

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5 minutes ago, Stanley said:

It's portable aspect is still it's main selling point, it's USP if you like. Without that it's pretty underwhelming as a home console at that price.

Is it? Why? I see it as the next platform for all the software Nintendo will put out - the relative grunt compared to PS4/XB1 isn't really that much of a consideration. I guess I'm not hung up on power as much as I am on the software that will be coming. I'm excited they will have more power sure, but I'm also excited by stuff like the HD rumble. I just can't get my head around how anyone could look at a forthcoming Nintendo console and be underwhelmed. They've ALWAYS delivered. I can't think of a single Nintendo platform that's not been host to at least a couple of absolute corkers. Wii U was the same - folks can moan about it all they like - but I played some truly awesome games on it. I'd buy one again in a heartbeat.

 

5 minutes ago, Stanley said:

I think the biggest portion of its users who really only want a home console will buy the TV only version when that comes out, because it will work out way cheaper and hence make it more attractive. 

What TV version? I really can't see one of those coming. That's like all those folks insistent on a gamepad-less Wii U being around the corner. Not gonna happen IMO.

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Just now, JPickford said:

The selling point is the switching between the two modes.   So the selling point absolutely relies on it being portable but ALSO a viable static console.   

I think all the arguments about it mainly being portable or static are daft.   The whole point is it's both.

To begin with yeah, certainly. But a year or two down the line it won't matter. A cheap Apple TV like console makes absolute sense. It's a benefit of having a unified development platform.

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9 minutes ago, daifuco said:

 

Bed compatible!!!

Play your RPG just like you read your books!!!

She wants to watch that lame program on 4oD?  Good!!!

Anything that enables me to be in the same room as my wife whilst a never ending broadcast of Say Yes To The Dress is on the TV is worth twice what Nintendo are charging ;)

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I think Nintendo have a lot of options with this architecture.  They could build a super powerful standalone version based on GTX 1080 or whatever.   They could build a small portable only version in a year when the chipset is cheap and smaller.    

I suspect they'll keep with the 'it does both' concept though.

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FWIW, if anyone misses out on registering for one of the events, it might be worth turning up regardless*. There were no checks whatsoever at the January event, you could have strolled in with the cast of Cats for all they cared.

 

*I accept no responsibility for Nintendo actually getting their act together and checking shit. :P

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3 minutes ago, rgraves said:

Is it? Why? I see it as the next platform for all the software Nintendo will put out - the relative grunt compared to PS4/XB1 isn't really that much of a consideration. I guess I'm not hung up on power as much as I am on the software that will be coming.

 

What TV version? I really can't see one of those coming. That's like all those folks insistent on a gamepad-less Wii U being around the corner. Not gonna happen IMO.

 

 

You're Nintendo's first point of contact. You're like me, you'll buy it because it plays their games, it doesn't matter what format it takes. Looking further afield though it's obvious that Nintendo isn't really that interested in competing in the home console market. Just look at Wii U for evidence of that.

 

Also, the reason there was no pad-less Wii U is because the games required it. Switch has been designed to avoid that happening again. There will be no games that require use of the TV and screen at the same time, in fact it would be functionally impossible.

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I think it's a case of portable hardware catching up with home consoles just enough to make it now possible. The 3DS wouldn't have looked very good on a TV. In many ways Wii U was the prototype for Switch, it being a handheld and home console combined. The portable tech just wasn't powerful enough to make it work though. It was an absolute bodge job, the Wii U.

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Blah blah blah blah blah.

 

Who cares if it's refreshing new approach to consoles, primarily a portable machine or Nintendo are going to release a new handheld at some point in the future. 

 

The Switch is the only way I'll be able to play Zelda in bed / on the bog, Snipperclips with anyone I can tempt into having a go, hold Quick Draw and Cow Milking Competitions in the office when I should be working and enjoy the new Mario game at Christmas. 

 

As far as I'm concerned it's unmissable. 

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16 minutes ago, Alex W. said:

 

Dem motion controls tho.

I actually think it's the other way around. Motion controls on console have been around since the Wii but it's very unique for a handheld. The whole multiplayer on one handheld, with motion controls, is superb. That's what separates it from anything else for me.

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