Shimmyhill Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 3 minutes ago, Majora said: I can understand the Nintendo die-hards buying the NES classic as it's more than just buying a ROM on a console for the third time. You're buying into the replica of the original hardware, the original controller, the overall nostalgia experience. I feel like the number of people willing to buy some of these crummy old NES games for a third time on Switch must be tiny. But who knows, only Nintendo know the sales figures. Maybe there's enough crazy people out there buying NES Volleyball each time they release it to make it viable. They should test demand for old Nes games by releasing a little retro box or something... 4 minutes ago, SweatyTravolta said: I'd get your Xbox looked at. I hate playing backwards compatible games with people uses 360s because that means we have to use the 360 voice chat and the quality difference is staggering. It's incredible we used to think that was amazing. Its the getting it to work thats the issue, four of us and one of us will always have some problem or the other - I have googled the issues many times and there are so many threads about it and replies with people having similar issues that I'm confident I and my three other buddies are not the one ones in the world having issues. On the rare occasions we do get it to work the quality is miles behind PS4 and can never get the game/voice balance right with or without an Asto mixamp! Anyway, derailing too much - it won't take much for the Switch UI and comms so surpass Xbone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushashi Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 5 hours ago, angel said: You could play it on a toaster of a laptop, or a tablet with bluetooth pad, it's a very odd 2017 release on a new system. Skyrim, much like NBA2K and FIFA is a clear statement of intent, look we've got 3 of the biggest selling games available to play on our system, so buy it please. Skyrim is the world's most successful RPG game. They also have Minecraft and Minecraft Adventures, along with Japan's favourite RPG coming to it. The problem being all the games which aren't coming to it at present for people who don't care for any of the above. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe bazooka Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 13 minutes ago, Sarlaccfood said: The people demanding Nintendo throw all their games into a Netflix or Spotify style service realise the movie and music industries fucking hate those services and would shut them down in an instant if they had a choice? Those services came from a necessity to combat widescale piracy the likes of which videogames don't really experience nowadays. They would be mental to do it without charging a price that people would moan about anyway so why would they? Thing is old films you can play on new machines. You know? Same with old music. You could play old music on your iPhone. These old Nintendo games. Most of them you can only play on your old Nintendo. It's like they're out of print. Another difference is the new games will be full price, or in the case of the Switch more than full price. Bet Spotify and Netflix wouldn't mind so much if new releases were full price, on top of the subscription. And mobile gaming is a bit like piracy. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angel Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 16 minutes ago, Strafe said: There are wrist charger straps too?! It charges from static electricity wanking motion power. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dataDave Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 Re: Pro Controller. Not sure why it exists, tbh. Just play in detached mode. Super comfy. The cradle is only there to shut fuckers up about "proper controls". Why have your hands bound? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unofficial Who Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 18 minutes ago, Sarlaccfood said: The people demanding Nintendo throw all their games into a Netflix or Spotify style service realise the movie and music industries fucking hate those services and would shut them down in an instant if they had a choice? Those services came from a necessity to combat widescale piracy the likes of which videogames don't really experience nowadays. They would be mental to do it without charging a price that people would moan about anyway so why would they? Spotify and Netflix are pretty much replacing passive radio listening and Pay TV for millenials. Yeah, the music industry would rather we all went back to buying albums and I'm sure the movie industry would love to go back to a time before even video but that genie is out of the bottle. Here's the thing. In terms of competition Nintendo is against Sony and Microsoft. And they do kind of have a service standard set up. Pay an annual fee and you get to keep the games they release for the service for as long as you pay the fee. It's pretty much a rental with the ability to buy a full licence at a discount in the future if you decide to stop paying for the Gold/PSN sub. Nintendo's offering looks pretty awful compared to that. Also it's still pretty awful that you can't transfer game licences from your Wii/WiiU/3DS to the switch when at least Microsoft is allowing you to. For me that makes the choice rather clear. I have a PS4. I have a 360. When my 360 dies I will probably buy a Bone in order to keep playing my 360 games (and to play the Bone games I have lined up in my sub queue.) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarlaccfood Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 8 minutes ago, joe bazooka said: Thing is old music you can play on new machines. You know? Same with old music. You could play old music on your iPhone. These old Nintendo games. Most of them you can only play on your old Nintendo. It's like they're out of print. Another difference is the new games will be full price, or in the case of the Switch more than full price. Bet Spotify and Netflix wouldn't mind so much if new releases were full price, on top of the subscription. And mobile gaming is a bit like piracy. Probably not the best analogy. I've tried fitting my dad's records into my CD player when I was younger and they definitely didn't work. Also I can play my Wii games on my WiiU and could play my GameCube games on my Wii so that's not really true either. Now, if they charge me £8 for Super Metroid on Switch they can absolutely do one. But even Wii VC titles could be transferred to WiiU so I'm not really sure where a lot of this is coming from. Sure I can play my copy of spelunky I got from ps+ on vita a few years ago but I can't pick up PS3 games on the cheap to play in my PS4, so it's not the whole industry Nintendo is lagging behind here. Also Netflix and Spotify absolutely do mind charging full price for new releases and it's exactly why labels have pulled big releases from Spotify in the past, as Spotify have flat out refused to do just that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dataDave Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 I know, I'm thinking the same, however I've heard only good things about the ergonomics and to be fair Nintendo are consistently excellent in that department. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe bazooka Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 Surprisingly all reports in so far seem to suggest the machine and controllers are fandabbydozy. It's just everything else. Actually pleased about the Skylanders thing. We've got about 8 Portals of Power and they do my head in. Does it mean old Skylanders won't work? Surely the old ones only spoke with Portals? Or have Nintendo put Skylander stuff in the Switch?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe bazooka Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 4 minutes ago, Sarlaccfood said: Probably not the best analogy. I've tried fitting my dad's records into my CD player when I was younger and they definitely didn't work. Also I can play my Wii games on my WiiU and could play my GameCube games on my Wii so that's not really true either. Now, if they charge me £8 for Super Metroid on Switch they can absolutely do one. But even Wii VC titles could be transferred to WiiU so I'm not really sure where a lot of this is coming from. Sure I can play my copy of spelunky I got from ps+ on vita a few years ago but I can't pick up PS3 games on the cheap to play in my PS4, so it's not the whole industry Nintendo is lagging behind here. Also Netflix and Spotify absolutely do mind charging full price for new releases and it's exactly why labels have pulled big releases from Spotify in the past, as Spotify have flat out refused to do just that. No, i meant if Spotify actually created all the content in the first place. Didn't have to pay anybody. Had already sold the stuff at least once at full price. The stuff was now kinda niche and old. And any new stuff would be full price, not part of the subscription. I think maybe not the music industry as a whole but Spotify themselves might think that was okay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dataDave Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 They should have just dropped the retro VC and instead gone on to produce the Mini hardware variants of everything up to the N64. Switch VC for GCN, Wii, and WiiU offerings. It seems that they are seen to be taking the piss by offering a single retro title in a 'book club' fashion each month, which is perfectly understandable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post joe bazooka Posted January 14, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted January 14, 2017 Just now, sir shrew said: Despite all the negatives, will most likely be getting one of these for Zelda and Splatoon 2 before Xmas. Hopefully the price will have come down by then. Yeah, just think, you might save yourself £30 over the next 11 months. Then we'll look stupid. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shimmyhill Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 3 minutes ago, joe bazooka said: Yeah, just think, you might save yourself £30 over the next 11 months. Then we'll look stupid. Think of all the ambassador games we will get! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe bazooka Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 It's even more different to Spotify and Netflix. Because the don't make dedicated players. A subscription for old games would get rid of the "there's no games" argument. But yeah, I never thought anybody would buy a mini Nes so don't listen to me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBizzle Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 Looking at that horrendous launch lineup I'm left wondering why the hell they haven't just crapped out a Dr Kawashima's to at least capture some of that DS nostalgia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broker Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 1 hour ago, Mallet said: Why is it up to Nintendo to pioneer the netflix approach? Why not Sega, EA or any other big publisher, do they need to wake the fuck up as well? I'm not defending Nintendo here I'm just curious as to why the other publishers don't have the same expectations levelled at them. Because EA already do it and Sega are irrelevant and aren't trying to shift overpriced hardware? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarlaccfood Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 23 minutes ago, Unofficial Who said: Also it's still pretty awful that you can't transfer game licences from your Wii/WiiU/3DS to the switch Has this been confirmed? It's a big decider for me and agree it would be absolutely shit if they expect you to fully re-buy VC titles. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex W. Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 1 hour ago, Mallet said: Why is it up to Nintendo to pioneer the netflix approach? Nintendo have a huge library of highly-regarded software that they own in its entirety, and have in the past attempted somewhat successfully to monetise that back catalogue. That's pretty unique. It's also a terrible idea for them to use a Netflix model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgraves Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 3 minutes ago, Broker said: overpriced hardware 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgraves Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 5 minutes ago, Sarlaccfood said: Has this been confirmed? No, quite the opposite in fact. Reggie has said that they know people have invested and that they should stay tuned for more details. He basically confirmed that something is coming for those with existing VC purchases, but that we'll have to hold on for a bit until we get the details. Quote W: Is there going to be a discount for us if we buy the games again on Switch? Fils-Aime: What I would say first is, we recognize that some of our most passionate fans have spent quite a bit, whether it’s with Virtual Console on Wii or Wii U, and we recognize that consumers are rightly concerned about moving to Nintendo Switch without backward compatibility. My comment is: Stay tuned, we understand the concern, more information to come. There’s 40-some odd days between now and launch. There are more details to come. And at that point we’ll be able to define all of those various details of that online experience. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hello Goaty ♥ Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 I have never used the Nintendo online store thingy I take it that a form of it will be available on the Switch? Where i am going with this, is in theory i dont need any of the launch games - just marvel at the Hardware and purchase a couple of things from online? can that work...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Craig Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, Sarlaccfood said: Has this been confirmed? It's a big decider for me and agree it would be absolutely shit if they expect you to fully re-buy VC titles. Nothing has been confirmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dataDave Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 I actually don't believe that this little tablet thing can pump out MK8 and Splatoon 2 at 1080p/60fps (Zelda at 900p/60fps, which is how my Skyrim runs) This has to be seen to be believed. Too bad they are only doing a passable job on the software and have outlayed a terrible plan on the services side, as it sounds like they've nailed the hardware. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafaqat Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 On the other hand, if they had done that the console might have been 300 quid instead of 280. I really don't need that kind of waggle shit with my console, so if they can reduce the price by not including it, I'd rather have that. I never bought Nintendoland either for example. I'm mystified that the same people who moan about waggle, jizz all over the shop about VR that practically does the same thing with the controllers. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgraves Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 4 minutes ago, Hello Goaty ♥ said: I have never used the Nintendo online store thingy I take it that a form of it will be available on the Switch? Where i am going with this, is in theory i dont need any of the launch games - just marvel at the Hardware and purchase a couple of things from online? can that work...! Yes the eShop will be available on Switch - the icon for it has already been seen on the home screen. Your plan should work yeah - although you might need some additional storage in the form of an SD card. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwi Cake Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 I hope the eshop music is rad. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hello Goaty ♥ Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 Thanks, so really i might not need any of the launch titles... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgraves Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 Just now, Kiwi Cake said: I hope the eshop music is rad. Sure bet: It'll be Zelda related for the first few months! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sarlaccfood Posted January 14, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted January 14, 2017 Yep. I had a go on a bunch of games today and the hardware is great. At the event the guy even let me take the console out the dock after ten minutes of playing Zelda with the pro controller to carry on playing with the handheld and it was pretty effing cool. Splatoon 2 really pops on dat screen too and the joycons are pretty dinky. Agree all the app and one-game-a-month stuff is a shame as the actual product itself is a winner. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broker Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 12 minutes ago, rgraves said: Can I just reply to all your posts with this now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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