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28 minutes ago, the_debaser said:

Part of it is probably also due to the limitations caused by storing huge games on onboard memory. It's rumoured to have 128gig which wouldn't hold many games. Putting games on cartridges should mean no or minimal installs, leaving the onboard storage for apps, music, that sorta stuff 

 

I'd read more like 12GB, I think you're thinking of the SD card expansion. There won't be installs (no point as it's solid state media, so random reads will be fast) but there will definitely be updates. Developers won't be able to rewrite the files on the cartridges, so code and assets will have to essentially be duplicated as needed. So if there are huge changes in between "going gold" and release day (as is commonplace now), or at any point during the game's lifespan, the usage of the internal storage is going to be quite significant. Using Xbone, PS4 and PC patch sizes as a guide, we're talking gigabytes of space.

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I think there's probably truth on both sides of the Wii vs. Smartphone debate. I can well believe that lots of Wii owners didn't transition to smartphones, but at the same time, smartphones weren't a part of the landscape back then. In other words, if you try to appeal to those former Wii players now, you'll have to lure them over the wall of smartphone options that have appeared in their gaming absence.

 

Because they'd be familiarised with smartphone gaming on their way, so you'd need to convince them to leapfrog it.

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2 hours ago, Escaped said:

Because they'd be familiarised with smartphone gaming on their way, so you'd need to convince them to leapfrog it.

 

I suspect this is a part of the reason why Nintendo has put so much effort into Super Mario Run, and potentially the timing of its release.

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9 hours ago, joe bazooka said:

Will definitely end up on Switch.

 

I mean, it's no surprise to see the same old people writing off a Nintendo console but writing it off a week before its reveal seems particularly harsh.

 

I'm gonna get at least three of these fucking things. 

 

What do we reckon the surprise is? I mean, what we already know is great but for the reveal... I mean, they wouldn't be having a reveal unless there was a reveal.

 

New Mario Chase.

 

 

 

Mass Effect Andromeda is out in March as well isn't it? Maybe a launch title? Stranger things have happened ^_^

 

I think what @Majora said hits the nail on the head. Consolidating to just the one console makes complete sense. 

 

I fear that one day we will see Nintendo as just another publisher / game developer as oppose to a console developer.

 

But for now I'm going to enjoy what they are still producing :) 

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Everyone i know that gamed on the Wii (and nothing else prior) went on to facebook games and then tablets.

 

It's pretty obvious Nintendo will never get the same market back as wii/ds and with the switch being more conventional i doubt that will either. 

 

I'm not even that fussed it's portable considering i rarely take my 3ds out the house at all. I expect a redesigned switch withing a year, perhaps just with the portable part and extra child friendly. Nintendo certainly don't want to loose that market.

 

Also the system was rumoured to have a base 32GB with the next model up offering more space.

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40 minutes ago, Luseth said:

 

Mass Effect Andromeda is out in March as well isn't it? Maybe a launch title? Stranger things have happened ^_^

 

I think what @Majora said hits the nail on the head. Consolidating to just the one console makes complete sense. 

 

I fear that one day we will see Nintendo as just another publisher / game developer as oppose to a console developer.

 

But for now I'm going to enjoy what they are still producing :) 

EA have said Mass Effect isnt coming.

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Edit: well, i didn't realise it was saturday or sunday and the only times for saturday available are 9am-1pm which just isn't going to work =( 

 

Sunday is possible, but i'd rather drive and it looks like it's in a bit of a nightmare area..

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1 hour ago, Luseth said:

 

Mass Effect Andromeda is out in March as well isn't it? Maybe a launch title? Stranger things have happened ^_^

 

I think what @Majora said hits the nail on the head. Consolidating to just the one console makes complete sense. 

 

I fear that one day we will see Nintendo as just another publisher / game developer as oppose to a console developer.

 

But for now I'm going to enjoy what they are still producing :) 

I mean something like WiiSports or Nintendo land (particularly Mario Chase) something that could only exist on Switch. Probably something to do with linking them together. Be surprised if they just showed off normal games which could be played mobile - although that in itself is wicked.

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8 minutes ago, Darhkwing said:

switch.PNG

 

Edit: well, i didn't realise it was saturday or sunday and the only times for saturday available are 9am-1pm which just isn't going to work =( 

 

Sunday is possible, but i'd rather drive and it looks like it's in a bit of a nightmare area..

 

If you don't want your ticket I'll have it...?

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10 hours ago, Liamness said:

There won't be installs (no point as it's solid state media, so random reads will be fast) but there will definitely be updates. Developers won't be able to rewrite the files on the cartridges, so code and assets will have to essentially be duplicated as needed. So if there are huge changes in between "going gold" and release day (as is commonplace now), or at any point during the game's lifespan, the usage of the internal storage is going to be quite significant. Using Xbone, PS4 and PC patch sizes as a guide, we're talking gigabytes of space.

Why couldn't files be rewritten on the cartridge? Or probably more likely, have a separate writeable portion rather than overwriting the ROM so that changes can be reverted. It would be very handy if patches/updates could be stored on the cartridge itself, something you can't do on optical discs.

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2 minutes ago, Oracle said:

I wonder what they will do with eShop purchases, I know that it will be forgotten but I hold out a faint hope that previous content will be available.

Maybe the same upgrade path as Wii to Wii U.  Lower price to transfer your purchase across.

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13 hours ago, Majora said:

I think if they can sell 30-40 million Switches, with the focus of all their first-party talent on that platform,  it'll probably be considered a relative success. 

I think if they sell 30-40 million it'll be more than a relative success to be fair - PS4 is a crazy success and that's at what 50m? So 30-40m would be more than 'relative success' for Nintendo from where they currently are surely?

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17 minutes ago, pelago said:

Why couldn't files be rewritten on the cartridge? Or probably more likely, have a separate writeable portion rather than overwriting the ROM so that changes can be reverted. It would be very handy if patches/updates could be stored on the cartridge itself, something you can't do on optical discs.

 

You can't predict the size of necessary patches ahead of time. Cartridges have always had a small amount of flash storage for game saves, and this will probably continue. They're not going to include capacity beyond what they know will get used though, that would just be wasteful.

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28 minutes ago, Chooch said:

Maybe the same upgrade path as Wii to Wii U.  Lower price to transfer your purchase across.

 

It would have to be some discount (>70%) for it to convince me to purchase another console.

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I hope the Switch severely limits patches. It's seriously ruining my gaming experience more than any number of bugs. I don't have a connection any more where repeated gigabyte downloads are feasible.

 

Fuck, imagine, an actual plug in and plays system. It'd be like having an actual games console.

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Something about the whole thing doesn't ring right with me. Absolutely no details revealed. Little time to promote and build hype, compared to Zelda and any other huge title for that matter. Launching Nintendo's 2 biggest heavy hitters right beside each other. It just doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

 

I'm beginning to suspect that Mario might end up not being the type of title that can hold a product launch on it's own...

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