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14 minutes ago, Broker said:

 

Thats fair, but acting like they're narrowing their market by catering to people who have jobs and girlfriends is a bit weird. The Wii U screen was what sold it to me and most of the people I know, it's incredibly useful for anyone with kids, or who can't afford multiple TVs, or who ever travels.

It's not weird, it's just quite obviously a small demographic. It only consists of a very specific portion of people who game while they travel and have girlfriends/wives/partners who don't let them play on the TV. On the other hand, kids won't be arsed, they've all moved onto phone gaming. Adults who don't game on the move won't be arsed. Adults who game at home would rather have a console solely dedicated for that. I understand there is a niche for it, but it's very narrow.

 

And I wouldn't go comparing it to the WiiU. That's not a great benchmark for it to be aiming for.

 

Anyway, enough negativity from me. It just isn't for me and I've explained why. If it suits your life, then great. I hope you have fun with it.

 

I just wanted to play Zelda. Stupid Nintendo.

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11 minutes ago, Jon said:

I just wanted to play Zelda. Stupid Nintendo.

What about Switch stops you doing that? It'll be the most powerful console Nintendo have ever put out, with a Zelda game on it. Even if you never take it out of the dock, that won't change.

 

In fact, with Switch, you could play that Zelda anywhere....

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14 minutes ago, rgraves said:

I'm really interested how they willI'mdle jumping in Splatoon without a touchscreen. Being honest, I'm just really interested in more Splatoon full stop. It's so bloody incredible.

When spawning, map pops up, use stick. The touch screen was never really that necessary. I'm a bit worried we're back to old school Pikmin controls and no wiimote...shame.

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1 hour ago, Jon said:

Thinking about this some more, why didn't they just develop a handheld and a home console which both run on the same tech (beefed up for the home console) and both use the same media? Surely they're appealing only to a very specific audience with this jack-of-all-trades route. It it was launched as 2 consoles, those who want handheld only can buy that, those who want big screen only can buy that, and those who want both buy both.

 

As it is, I think they're probably going to alienate a lot of people by forcing things on them that they don't want. Personally I've got no interest in handheld gaming, so I won't be paying for a machine that has a defunct screen and lower specs, just so they could make an all-in-one. I'm sure there are people out there who'd just rather it be a handheld as well, without having to pay for the dock.

 

If you are the kind of gamer who'll benefit from both, then great. It looks brilliant for that. But I think they've narrowed their target audience, rather than trying to expand it. I guess only time will tell now if it's the right move.

 

On a video gaming website, I find this post a little ridiculous.

 

What do you play right now?

I mean, by your reckoning, you obviously don't by any games with a redundant single player campaign mode because you only play online multiplayer right?

 

As the biggest video gamer in my friends / family circle - as I suspect many of us are, so many people asked me some years back why they would bother with a 3DS when they already have a DS and had no interest in the 3D 'gimmick'

My answer was then, the same as it is now.  You don't buy a 3DS because you are interested in 3D, you buy it to play the latest Nintendo games.  The latest instalments of Mario, Zelda etc. and the new things they come up with like Splatoon.  You buy it for the games, perhaps only the first party titles, but even at that it probably going to be worth it.  

 

Yes, they can shut up and take my money right now, I'll likely be in from the start...

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In retrospect it's weird they did their "we're keeping it secret so other people don't steal the ideas" thing for so long, people on reddit have already dug up Android tablets from the period where they were throwing everything at the wall to see what sticks that had the same sort of detachable controllers and screen mirroring. No one's heard of any of them of course, because they were unsuccessful.

 

12 minutes ago, Hylian said:

When spawning, map pops up, use stick. The touch screen was never really that necessary. I'm a bit worried we're back to old school Pikmin controls and no wiimote...shame.

 

It's funny that people who suggested that the touchscreen wasn't that essential for Splatoon got shouted down, and now even the die-hard Nintendo fans are admitting it.

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18 minutes ago, RubberJohnny said:

 

It's funny that people who suggested that the touchscreen wasn't that essential for Splatoon got shouted down, and now even the die-hard Nintendo fans are admitting it.

 

You mean one, so far?

 

I don't admit it. In a panic situation (of which there are many) you can instantly just tap anywhere on the screen to teleport out of trouble. A clumsy map that you have to bring up to point the analogue crosshair pointer to to select where you want to go would spell certain death - you certainly wouldn't even get chance to press the confirm button, you'd be splatted behind the map overlay. There is also the clutch nuking that you can fit into the last fraction of a second at the very end of the round. Both of these features will be gone with no touch screen.

Just the above two features alone have been the difference between win and lose on hundreds of occasions for me, and I've not even played as much as a lot of others in the Splatoon thread.

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16 minutes ago, Hylian said:

When spawning, map pops up, use stick. The touch screen was never really that necessary. I'm a bit worried we're back to old school Pikmin controls and no wiimote...shame.

But jumping is useful virtually all the time, not just when spawning - and it's so quick with the screen. And the map. And it's used for the specials. It's gonna be a big miss if it's not there....:(

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9 minutes ago, Darhkwing said:

Well...apparently investors are not happy that Nintendo has not revealed one of it's "surprises". I still think this thing is going to have a lot of focus on AR.

Secrecy may end up being the death of them!

 

Obviously I hope not, I'm simply getting frustrated.

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28 minutes ago, rgraves said:

Erm... Wii was BC with GC. Wii U was BC with Wii. They have a better record than anyone else on that front recently really.

 

24 minutes ago, jiroczech said:

...and DS/Lite plays GBA carts, 3DS plays DS carts.

 

For all of those examples there's literally a hardware overlap that makes backwards compatibility trivial. Example: The DS and GBA share the same 2D processor.


Nintendo won't be able to utilise hardware backwards compatibility with the Switch like they have done in the past. That's not to say there will be no backwards compatibility, but it's certainly not a given.

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10 minutes ago, Blu3Flame said:

For all of those example there's literally a hardware overlap that makes backwards compatibility trivial. Example: The DS and GBA share the same 2D processor.


Nintendo won't be able to utilise hardware backwards compatibility with the Switch like they have done in the past.

They'll keep going with Virtual Console....that'll bring NES/SNES/N64 into play at least. For a [far too high to be honest] price.

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15 minutes ago, Darhkwing said:

Well...apparently investors are not happy that Nintendo has not revealed one of it's "surprises". I still think this thing is going to have a lot of focus on AR.

 

The suprise is it's going to have third party support for once. And mario party 57 

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12 minutes ago, rgraves said:

Does it even have a camera? Don't think I've seen one anywhere, so that would rule AR out...

 

Not sure, but i'd be massively surprised if it didn't.

 

10 minutes ago, gooner4life said:

 

Nice things are expensive, i'm expecting £349.99.

 

If the dock is truly dumb then i'd be surprised if the handheld itself is more than £200-£250.

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I'm still hoping for a Netflix style service, where you no longer buy games but subscriptions to the entire Nintendo library. Though now that will not entirely be the case will it because of the cartridges :( They may do a service but like all the others it will be limited. That was the revolution I was hoping for this time, the end of buying games and having access to everything.

 

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How is it going to deal with eshop / dlc then? I expect the carts could have space on them for future dlc/patches but eshop stuff would need a lot of memory surely.. maybe the dock will have a hard drive too? doesn't explain how you would play those games away from home though.

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9 minutes ago, Darhkwing said:

How is it going to deal with eshop / dlc then? I expect the carts could have space on them for future dlc/patches but eshop stuff would need a lot of memory surely.. maybe the dock will have a hard drive too?

It'll have an SD card slot for local storage surely?

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