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15 minutes ago, Jarik said:

I've seen numerous takes that $30 extra is too much for the N64 & Genesis games & I agree, but they all seem to miss that that includes the Animal Crossing DLC which is $25 by itself, making the N64 & Genesis games $5.

It’s a rolling fee, so if you intend to continue playing the Animal Crossing DLC after the first year, you pay again for it, and again ..

 

At this juncture I feel they need explain their plans going forward and how it’s a better value proposition for family members.

 

I mean put it this way my daughter is going crazy about the Animal Crossing stuff but she has barely even touched any NES or SNES games, so why should she be interested in N64 or Megadrive?

 

Animal Crossing is their biggest game, and for most families it probably makes more sense to buy the DLC outright and continue with the cheaper base sub required for online functionality.

 

So, yeah, it’s only $5 for the N64 and Megadrive games, but I suspect most families have no interest in them, or the NES and SNES. 

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I understand that it’s a rolling fee, but Nintendo have clarified that you can keep everything you bring from the DLC into your main island if you don’t renew.  You just can’t access the resort anymore.  For some people a year of ‘work’ might be enough.

 

Perhaps this is Nintendo testing the waters & when it comes time to renew they won’t offer something else also worth about $25, and if they do it will be something that goes away completely if you don’t resub, like a Splatoon 3 expansion. 

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11 hours ago, deKay said:


AC has cloud saves.

 

Not really no.  Cloud save means I can pick up another switch and immediately continue my game.

 

It doesn't mean specifically remember to perform an arkane process while the game lectures me about how I'm allowed to use it.

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3 minutes ago, Dudley said:

 

Not really no.  Cloud save means I can pick up another switch and immediately continue my game.

 

It doesn't mean specifically remember to perform an arkane process while the game lectures me about how I'm allowed to use it.


Cloud save to me means it’s backed up “in the cloud”.

 

The system on the Switch generally doesn’t work reliably enough for what you describe. Most of the time when I’ve tried the saves are out of sync and need manually prodding anyway.

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4 minutes ago, Dudley said:

 

Not really no.  Cloud save means I can pick up another switch and immediately continue my game.

 

It doesn't mean specifically remember to perform an arkane process while the game lectures me about how I'm allowed to use it.

I did this yesterday with the app, on two Switchs, running simultaneously. Kind of bizarre. But yeah, that is definitely not what most people understand cloud saves to mean. 

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Claiming it's really only a fiver for the N64 and MD stuff is a bit much, when there's no option to not have the DLC for a game I neither own nor want. It's £35 for the pack. Want any one specific part of it? £35. That's your option. None of it is £5.

 

While I'll probably move up to the higher tier at some point, I'll not be in any rush. 

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11 minutes ago, deKay said:


Cloud save to me means it’s backed up “in the cloud”.

 

The system on the Switch generally doesn’t work reliably enough for what you describe. Most of the time when I’ve tried the saves are out of sync and need manually prodding anyway.

 

Another reason not to pay for it.

 

Microsoft's system is seamless, Sony's isn't but is at least getting better and doesn't lecture you that you're history's greatest monster if you're using it and your old switch isn't under a truck.

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2 minutes ago, Dudley said:

Another reason not to pay for it.


I don’t pay for the cloud saves. I pay for the other stuff and cloud saves are a side effect.

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It kind of suggests the N64 games are pretty much worthless. And they are, in that they should be shovelling them to us for free for paying to put up with the shitty service in the first place, like they do with the NES & SNES stuff.

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I think licensing might be a major part of it.  What did Nintendo have to agree to to get Banjo-Kazooie, a game without which the service would be much less worthwhile?  Could they possibly manage Goldeneye under a similar sort of deal?

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The trouble with Body Harvest is that it is so sluggish - we put up with it at the time because it was so unique, but I don’t think we’d forgive that today.

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This is the problem isn’t it, nostalgia. F-Zero X is still brilliant and worth playing, but Mario 64, Ocarina of Time, Majora’s Mask; there are better versions out there from Nintendo themselves, and bar dipping in for a bit of nostalgia I can’t see myself putting much time into Mario Kart 64 when Mario Kart 8 exists. 
 

I used to love Pilot Wings 64 but how it holds up these days I’ve no idea, same with Wave Rave.

 

Hopefully the catalogue will be expanded and we get stuff like Bangaio, but overall I don’t  think the N64 is anywhere near as good as the SNES, Castlevania is crap, there’s no Final Fantasy or Dragon Quest, no Metroid, etc. 

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5 minutes ago, Professor Puzzles said:

 

I thought I saw both Donkey Kong 64 and Banjo Kazooie on the new advert for Nintendo Online.

 

EDIT: Yep, Banjo Kazooie was in there at least.

Ah I take it back then, maybe it will happen. 

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19 hours ago, marcus said:

I only buy digital downloads these days


This is also me, but with certain stuff (e.g. first party games I know I’m likely to play only once), I allow myself to purchase a cartridge that stays in my Switch until I’m done, so no real difference to a digital download. Then I sell it for not much less than I paid for it.

 

Sometimes I’ll replace it with the digital version if I decide it’s something I’ll want to keep forever (I did this with Super Mario Odyssey and Breath of the Wild), and I’ll usually wait until it’s on sale.

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I loved Diddy Kong Racing, but I bet the framerate will be painful. Plus I always wished the karts etc… were faster.

 

Mario Kart 64 was awful. The tracks felt like they went on forever, and who thought that having to wait for a train to pass was a good idea.

 

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2 hours ago, Stanley said:

Perfect Dark is Rare isn’t it, no chance of that happening. 

 

One of the rumours for the increased cost is that Nintendo are paying to license these games from the third parties and it hasn't come cheap.

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1 hour ago, Death Adder said:

 

Wave Race 64 is still utterly fantastic, and one of the best racers ever.

That’s good to hear I look forward to that one. 
 

Don’t get me wrong I can’t wait to play these games, but their pricing model with bits of DLC added in, and no clear path forward, is all out of whack. 

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