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40 minutes ago, mdn2 said:

BotW is the best game ever, Xenoblade Chronicles is the best JRPG ever. Both things can be true. 

 

Xenoblade Chronicles isn't a JRPG, so it simply can't be true.

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1 hour ago, mdn2 said:

BotW is the best game ever, Xenoblade Chronicles is the best JRPG ever. Both things can be true. 

 

Dragon Quest XI shits all over Xenoblade from a great height.

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9 minutes ago, Isaac said:

 

Dragon Quest XI shits all over Xenoblade from a great height.

Piffle, my good man. And I say that as a former fan of the DQ games. If I had to make a top 5 best JRPG's, it would be:

 

1. Xenoblade Chronicles

2. Skies of Arcadia

3. Grandia

4. Final Fantasy XII

5. Chronotrigger

 

Dragon Quest VIII would probably just be outside my top 5, however. 

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Xenoblade 'isn't barely' a JRPG? Actual, factual madness. It's more ambitious and inventive than the strictly inflexible DQ series (11 is a jump forward, though) but it never strays from the JRPG genre for a second. 

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4 minutes ago, Jonnycash said:

Is this on the UK store? Been waiting for a good online shooter. 

According to Eurogamer, yes. But it’s not on the Nintendo site yet.

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2 hours ago, mdn2 said:

Piffle, my good man. And I say that as a former fan of the DQ games. If I had to make a top 5 best JRPG's, it would be:

 

1. Xenoblade Chronicles

2. Skies of Arcadia

3. Grandia

4. Final Fantasy XII

5. Chronotrigger

 

Dragon Quest VIII would probably just be outside my top 5, however. 

I think you and me might secretly by the same person. 
 

(not played Grandia yet but do have it on my ps classic). 

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9 hours ago, Alexlotl said:

 

This stance is new on me. Why isn't it a JRPG?

 

It's an MMORPG without the MMO. It's gameplay style, battle system, UI and looting mechanic has been ripped, wholesale, from the MMORPG genre.

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1 hour ago, Adrock said:

 

It's an MMORPG without the MMO. It's gameplay style, battle system, UI and looting mechanic has been ripped, wholesale, from the MMORPG genre.


So basically it’s not a JRPG because you don’t like the battle system and want nice familiar menu based combat. Got it.

 

Funnily enough, I’d say your description is a fair one for Xenoblade Chronicles X. But Xenoblade 1 & 2 are character-driven JRPGs through and through. There’s more to an RPG than the battle system. 

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I thought this might be about the battle system. Presumably Xenoblade's bedfellow FFXII isn't a 'True JRPG', with its similar masked turn-based battle system. You could slap FFVI into a huge open world MMO map and give it some MMO elements and it'd still remain a JRPG. Purists!

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3 hours ago, Alexlotl said:


So basically it’s not a JRPG because you don’t like the battle system and want nice familiar menu based combat. Got it.

 

Funnily enough, I’d say your description is a fair one for Xenoblade Chronicles X. But Xenoblade 1 & 2 are character-driven JRPGs through and through. There’s more to an RPG than the battle system. 

 

It depends how loose you are with the definition of a JRPG. The multitude of horrible loot drop side quests that rely on RNG for a chance of a drop are straight out of MMORPG's.

 

The battle system isn't something that needs to be set in stone for a JRPG, I welcome innovation in fact, but not when it's lifted directly from MMORPG's. The accepted MMORPG battle system is unsatisfying and generally very boring. That precludes it's inclusion from the JRPG genre alone, let alone the above.

 

It is, plainly, ripped directly from MMORPG mechanics. Which is why it's tiresome, I persisted with it for bloody ages and I can play just about any JRPG. I consider myself the JRPG arbiter and I've made my judgment.

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2 hours ago, donpeartree said:

"Wrong! It's not an RPG! It's an RPG!" :lol:

 

You're failing to get it. Xenoblade is a bog standard RPG with horrible mechanics, a grating main character and very few, if any, redeeming features.

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18 hours ago, mdn2 said:

Piffle, my good man. And I say that as a former fan of the DQ games. If I had to make a top 5 best JRPG's, it would be:

 

1. Xenoblade Chronicles

2. Skies of Arcadia

3. Grandia

4. Final Fantasy XII

5. Chronotrigger

 

Dragon Quest VIII would probably just be outside my top 5, however. 

List is upside down!!!

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1 hour ago, Adrock said:

 

You're failing to get it. Xenoblade is a bog standard RPG with horrible mechanics, a grating main character and very few, if any, redeeming features.

I don't like it, either. Doesn't mean it's not a JRPG.

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