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34 minutes ago, Majora said:

Underpowered compared to what? It's definitely not going to match PS Neo or Xbox Scorpio. 

 

I reckon it'll be a bit below Xbox One levels, if I had to make a random unsubstantiated guess.

He probably means underpowered to the point that it cant play multi format games. Even if that means the current ( proper/popular ) versions of sports titles.

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mushashi

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6 hours ago, muffin said:

People seem pretty quick accepting that Nintendo can't make a powerful console because they're only this little company with a few guys working there. Looking around charity shops for bits for their new console.

 

Is this some sort of reverse psychology joke where you secretly hope they are going to be competitive against the Neo and Scorpio and therefore reclaim their rightful place as king of the hill? The recent comments from NoA and Ubisoft would lead one to believe they have no real interest in being competitive or making a box to support the majority of Ubisoft's output.

 

Sure, in theory Nintendo could bring out a monster spec console, but in practice, I wouldn't go betting the house on that supposition.

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Alex W.

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Nintendo could certainly do a console as powerful as their rivals', but you can't get past the pragmatics of making one: it would cost as much as a PS4 or an Xbox One before you added any innovative features, it would be about the same size, it would need to be hooked up to the mains, and it would play the same games, probably with a similar controller. If you're happy for Nintendo to show up to this generation three years late with the same stuff as the other guys then that's a valid option but I think that'd be a disappointment for spectators and a flop with consumers.

 

If they're going to have something that's new and clever, they're going to have to either charge a premium for the console, or let something give in terms of performance.

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31 minutes ago, Alex W. said:

Nintendo could certainly do a console as powerful as their rivals', but you can't get past the pragmatics of making one: it would cost as much as a PS4 or an Xbox One before you added any innovative features, it would be about the same size, it would need to be hooked up to the mains, and it would play the same games, probably with a similar controller. If you're happy for Nintendo to show up to this generation three years late with the same stuff as the other guys then that's a valid option but I think that'd be a disappointment for spectators and a flop with consumers.

 

If they're going to have something that's new and clever, they're going to have to either charge a premium for the console, or let something give in terms of performance.

 

If it's power, it has to be more power than even the Scorpio. The expense rules that out. Maybe there is some way to create a custom architecture or cutting some corners elsewhere that no one has thought of that gets higher performance for less money, but then it's going to be out on a limb on it's architecture and probably take more of a hit on third party support.

 

No idea what they'll do.

 

 

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DarhkFox

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I'm still thinking it's a tablet now. Or at least a tablet with proper controls.

 

Not only can you play Nintendo games but also android games in general.

 

This would mean for a tablet it could be pretty powerful but compared to the latest consoles maybe not so much but hey, people don't expect tablets to be as powerful as home consoles.

 

Still,  unless it's some magical material tablet it wouldn't be as easy to carry around like a handheld.

 

Perhaps a home hub makes it more powerful on a TV but again, I would expect the tablet to be of high quality so It would have to be a reasonably priced solution.

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Oh Danny Boy

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What will really happen is that Nintendo will give us another underpowered console with a gimmick tacked on, it will launch with a new super Mario Bros game again and be over priced again. Zelda will disappoint yet again. Game content will be locked behind plastic tat, third parties will disappear within a year and Nintendo will provide another serving of their bland and out dated franchises that only their dwindling cheer leaders will want who will proclaim it as the best thing ever, again. Within a few years it will fade into obscurity and we'll hear rumours of another console with a poorly thought out gimmick attached and the cycle will begin again.

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7 minutes ago, Oh Danny Boy said:

What will really happen is that Nintendo will give us another underpowered console with a gimmick tacked on, it will launch with a new super Mario Bros game again and be over priced again. Zelda will disappoint yet again. Game content will be locked behind plastic tat, third parties will disappear within a year and Nintendo will provide another serving of their bland and out dated franchises that only their dwindling cheer leaders will want who will proclaim it as the best thing ever, again. Within a few years it will fade into obscurity and we'll hear rumours of another console with a poorly thought out gimmick attached and the cycle will begin again.

 

If I'm completely honest, if the price is right and if only nintendo games where released on the console (at a steady rate and some new IP) then i'd probably buy it. I'm more than happy to play third party games on my pc or ps4. At this point i'd be more than happy if they just released their games on other consoles or pc. Sure, they won't do that for a while yet but still.

 

Knowing Nintendo i would expect your comment to be 100% really. I'm pumped for the new console but i have been disappointed in there systems for a while now. Their games on the other hand have been pretty great.

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It'll probably be on par with XB1/PS4 meaning third party devs won't shy away from it, even after Neo and Scorpio arrive, considering devs have to make their games compatible with XB1 or PS4 still and can't be Neo or Scorpio exclusives.

 

This may give nintendo some of that third party support they've desperately needed, at least for the next few years.

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14 minutes ago, BruceBruce said:

It'll probably be on par with XB1/PS4 meaning third party devs won't shy away from it, even after Neo and Scorpio arrive, considering devs have to make their games compatible with XB1 or PS4 still and can't be Neo or Scorpio exclusives.

 

This may give nintendo some of that third party support they've desperately needed, at least for the next few years.

 

Yes that's true. I think however that we might just see upgraded systems every couple years though. It will get to the point you will only get games to work on later systems even if sony/ms say their games will run on the original models.

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Honestly I think it would make more sense for them to repackage a souped up Wii U and sell it with a wild new feature and completely new name. It's what they did the last time their console sold badly - turned the Gamecube into the Wii, sold it cheap right out the gate and focussed on the controls. I don't see how having powerful specs - or even current gen specs - is going to help them in any way. Third parties are gone. Nintendo fans are going to buy it regardless. The people they should be targeting are people who don't understand the difference between good and bad graphics and people who want something cheap.

 

That's not what I want, obviously. I want something super powerful that'll enable mind-blowingly amazing visuals and performance for first party games. But from the company's perspective, why on earth would they do this?

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15 hours ago, ann coulter said:

Honestly I think it would make more sense for them to repackage a souped up Wii U and sell it with a wild new feature and completely new name. It's what they did the last time their console sold badly - turned the Gamecube into the Wii, sold it cheap right out the gate and focussed on the controls. I don't see how having powerful specs - or even current gen specs - is going to help them in any way. Third parties are gone. Nintendo fans are going to buy it regardless. The people they should be targeting are people who don't understand the difference between good and bad graphics and people who want something cheap.

 

That's not what I want, obviously. I want something super powerful that'll enable mind-blowingly amazing visuals and performance for first party games. But from the company's perspective, why on earth would they do this?

 

I'd be super happy with a portable Wii U and another 3-4 years of similar games to be honest.

 

Maybe better Indie support...?

 

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mushashi

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17 hours ago, ann coulter said:

The people they should be targeting are people who don't understand the difference between good and bad graphics and people who want something cheap.

 

 

Well quotes like "Not about specs" and mention of blood coloured water and Ubisoft saying they will recapture the Wii market and only announcing Just Dance for it so far would indicate they are more likely to go down that route of least resistance. You just have to guess the USP now, what compelling twist will it have to do another Wii.

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Stanley

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3 hours ago, mushashi said:

You just have to guess the USP now, what compelling twist will it have to do another Wii.

I think all they need to do is follow up the Wii, literally. A box powerful enough to display HD, including a 4K upscaler, and bring back a new version of the Wii remote. 

 

I believe that's what it will be, and the handheld component will just have downscaled graphics and be sold separately. 

 

The question is which one will go on sale first. My bet is on the handheld, just going by the date they're releasing it. The home console to follow by Christmas. 

 

The only question left then is price. I think the home console will actually cost less than the handheld. 

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macosx

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Reckon it going to be some tablet with some unique twist. Beyond waggle :) They have to innovate really and take themselves out of any notion of them them competing in the MS / Sony arms race. Innovative play sold the wii to the masses and that's what they need to do again. With their glacially slow 1st party releases they need to garner some third party support.  &  no way they are chasing 4K. 

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