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Cosmic_Guru

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14 hours ago, Wiper said:

 

Ooh, that's delightful news. I may give them a replay at some point - see if Fable 2 is as good as I remember, and if Fable 3 is improved by lowered expectations!

 

Looking forward to seeing the difference to these.  Fable 2 was good without the benefit of bing upgraded but 3 had a really rotten "port" over or whatever the process is.  The colours were way off all the time so all the benefit of using dyes on clothing evaporated.  Also many sound glitches.  It's a much smaller game than you expect too - if you stick to questing rather than farting or fucking you barrel through it - a couple of sessions took me to the city.  The areas are tiny (which was fine for the earlier games you didnt expect anything else, they seemed large enough at the time and that's all that counts, but this came out several years later when expectations were changing).

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46 minutes ago, moosegrinder said:

How do they do this? The framerate I get why that can go up, but how does something like RDR look as incredible as it does? Do the original companies have to provide assets or is it some trickery with what's already there?

I assume that it is trickery with what is already there. Maybe un-compressed textures or some kind of interpolation of the old textures. There are plenty of ways that it could be achieved that don't require updated assets from the devs. Still impressive though.

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7 minutes ago, moosegrinder said:

It's incredibly impressive. Sticking with the RDR example, the only thing that lets it down is the polygon count on things like belt buckles and what have you.

 

I'm busy playing replaying it at the moment, and it's incredibly impressive (was only a tenner on the MS store, so had to indulge).

 

 

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Mr. Gerbik

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1 hour ago, moosegrinder said:

How do they do this? The framerate I get why that can go up, but how does something like RDR look as incredible as it does? Do the original companies have to provide assets or is it some trickery with what's already there?

All done in emulation, the original code remains untouched*. The Microsoft BC team is doing God's work.

 

*One notable exception: replacing the wonky SD cutscenes in FFXIII with HD ones

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moosegrinder

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1 hour ago, mdn2 said:

Well, the price for Ninja Gaiden 2 went from £1.50 to £12 today in CEX. Good job I picked a copy up yesterday.   :blink:

 

As soon as shit goes on BC snap up whatever you're looking for off Amazon immediately. I got Blacklist for £4 rather than £11 when it became BC. Or you could wait for the inevitable sale because changing discs sucks.

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moosegrinder

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1 hour ago, Mr. Gerbik said:

All done in emulation, the original code remains untouched*. The Microsoft BC team is doing God's work.

 

*One notable exception: replacing the wonky SD cutscenes in FFXIII with HD ones

 

This is mind boggling. Are the textures on the disc/in the original codse at a higher/lower (whichever gives best quality) compression than the console can render?

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Don Wiskerando

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1 hour ago, Hitcher said:

I think a lot of textures used were of a higher quality than you could actually see at the lower resolutions.

This why I was always confused at the assertions that HD game development was more time consuming and costly than SD.

 

Surely, the higher the resolution that the console can display, the less work is required by dev to downscale the assets for display and performance.

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6 minutes ago, Salsa Party Animal said:

Ninja Gaiden II - hurray as I got this game already. What about Ninja Gaiden on XBOX ? 

 

Ninja Gaiden Black is on Game Pass. I had a quick look at it when I recently got an XB1S and it looked really nice. 

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I didn’t like Fable 3 on release, but had another crack at it a year or so later and it’s great. They both are. Flawed as hell, but full of charm.

 

I wish there were more light-hearted questing games around. The Witcher et al, as technically brilliant as they are, are a bit po-faced for me I think.

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