BBC's Watchdog - rllmuk vs Sony

[angel]

I'm not the idiot who fell for Sony's bullshit. Shazam!

what an absolute dick

[Guest]

what an absolute dick

Seriously, angel? Even someone like you must be able to tell I was just messing with that comment? Surely.

[angel]

Seriously, angel? Even someone like you must be able to tell I was just messing with that comment? Surely.

it might sound all ironic and clever in your head but everyone else things you're being a nob

[Harsin]

’Social Experiment'

[Guest]

it might sound all ironic and clever in your head but everyone else things you're being a nob

Not really, I was just fucking around. This is obviously the wrong place for that though, so I'll leave you all to it.

Social Experiment'

Maybe Sony should have adopted that as the tag line for PS4.

Sorry, couldn't resist!

[angel]

if it wasnt for people actually campaigning for change, your precious xbox one would be a DRM'd up to the eyeballs TV TV TV machine. so less of the hit and run trolling bullshit.

[NecroMorrius]

Poor poor Jon.

[rafaqat]

What do you think Watchdog could have done better? They have no power to force Sony to do anything beyond publicly shaming them to change. We don't know yet what, if anything, Sony will do as a result (probably nothing).

Asking them on air if they'd like to come back in 3/6 months for a follow up.

Nothing gets shit done quicker than knowing you're going to have to report on what you've actually done at a later date. Works everywhere.

[Uxorious]

Jon, just for the love of being an adult, stop!

[Danster]

True, true. I'm not that much of an idiot that I bought Sony's bullshit though, so I'm pretty far down the idiot scale around these parts. I take it you've got a PS4 then, Boj?

And you can shut up Ian, you dick.

Fucks sake, accidentally possed this shitty post. Could someone rectify this travesty?

And Jon, you do come across as an Microsoft apologist, more so even than boozy. I'll explain, boozy is a joker, his jokes don't always work. But even when he is throwing around cunts, you can tell he's doing it for a laugh; even if it's only him laughing.

Your earnest, try hard, I'm so impartial shtick just doesn't match up with your negativity toward Sony. And don't for a minute believe I am a. on some kind of childish defence force, or b. don't think that Sony deserve an absolute kicking for the shit way they are treating digital purchasers.

You have nothing but negativity toward Sony, and that's fine, but don't pretend that you are not biased because that just insults us all.

[Graham S]

I'm standing here proudly at the entrance to our aging pub, hair combed, fixed smile, slightly tattered banner saying "Rllmuk welcomes new users!", complimentary brown buffet, the works.

Meanwhile the drunks are rolling around the floor, fighting, spitting and swearing. Can't you do this outside?

[angel]

I'm standing here proudly at the entrance to our aging pub, hair combed, fixed smile, slightly tattered banner saying "Rllmuk welcomes new users!", complimentary brown buffet, the works.

Meanwhile the drunks are rolling around the floor, fighting, spitting and swearing. Can't you do this outside?

i dont agree with this at all, and its a pet hate of mine. when there's a disagreement with an obvious right side, and very obvious antagonist, but someone comes along and tars everyone with the same brush. the drunks arent rolling around the floor, one bloke is being a bit of a twat. thats it.

[Pob]

i dont agree with this at all, and its a pet hate of mine. when there's a disagreement with an obvious right side, and very obvious antagonist, but someone comes along and tars everyone with the same brush. the drunks arent rolling around the floor, one bloke is being a bit of a twat. thats it.

Just roll your eyes and ignore it.

[Dudley]

Asking them on air if they'd like to come back in 3/6 months for a follow up.

Nothing gets shit done quicker than knowing you're going to have to report on what you've actually done at a later date. Works everywhere.

Solution if you're Sony : Say yes now, say no in 6 months.

[Harsin]

I don't know if Sony ever explained why, a year or so ago, they started randomly resetting customers' PSN passwords without warning. It gave me a fright when I couldn't suddenly couldn't log-in and I naturally assumed I'd had my account hijacked until I went on various forums to find lots of other similarly confused people. It was a prime example of their terrible customer service though.

[Osito]

It's up on youtube now for anyone who can't/doesn't want to use the iplayer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-idfn9qckA

I thought the segment was very well done, and Pockets came across very well. A shame more wasn't done, but more public awareness is always a positive. I did laugh when the photos came up though (and Saygar).

[Shimmyhill]

I vote we banish Jon to the tech forum!

[Guest]

I vote we banish Jon to the tech forum!

If they're not as self righteous over there, then I'm all up for it!

[Spacehost]

I don't know if Sony ever explained why, a year or so ago, they started randomly resetting customers' PSN passwords without warning. It gave me a fright when I couldn't suddenly couldn't log-in and I naturally assumed I'd had my account hijacked until I went on various forums to find lots of other similarly confused people. It was a prime example of their terrible customer service though.

No explanation, but odds are the passwords and emails of the users' accounts appeared in a set of user data on sale on the darkweb. Blacknet. Spoopytubes. Whatever.

[Rev]

They actually explained that to me on the phone when my account was hacked the other day when defending their record a bit. They rolled it out to customers who hadn't changed their passwords for a certain amount of time and so might be at risk. (Ie. What you say, the ones they know they'd lost the data of.)

The only other interesting thing from my call was that I'm 99% sure customer services can read passwords in plain text as mine I changed to after first discovering the hack was a message to Sony regarding losing passwords and it caused him to stumble in his sentence.

[Dudley]

Taking advantage of that privilege is not the point.

It simply shouldn't be possible for anyone or machine to read a password back, it should be 1 way encrypted. It should be impossible, for any reasonable reading of the word, to EVER decrypt your password.

[angel]

If they're not as self righteous over there, then I'm all up for it!

yes, this was you being hilarious and everyone else unreasonable.

[Scribblor]

Also, he's quite well off really.

[Spacehost]

They actually explained that to me on the phone when my account was hacked the other day when defending their record a bit. They rolled it out to customers who hadn't changed their passwords for a certain amount of time and so might be at risk. (Ie. What you say, the ones they know they'd lost the data of.)The only other interesting thing from my call was that I'm 99% sure customer services can read passwords in plain text as mine I changed to after first discovering the hack was a message to Sony regarding losing passwords and it caused him to stumble in his sentence.

Hrm. I'd suggest they can do an easy hash comparison to check you haven't reused the old one, but if they can read the contents it's stored somewhere in plaintext and as such is potentially vulnerable to theft.

Fun fact: Tesco kept all its passwords in plaintext. Hit the "forgotten password" button and you'd get the password back in your email account. I hope they've fixed it since but I stopped buying shopping for delivery off them the second I discovered it.

[Guest]

yes, this was you being hilarious and everyone else unreasonable.

We got there in the end, at least.

[angel]

fun fact, my company insists on using a random password generator when resetting users. its constantly inappropriate though, last week it generated scum970, tampon21, and my favourite, dick90onacid

[Robbo]

Possible but unlikely. More likely to be reversible encryption rather than hashing.

[choddo]

Possible but unlikely. More likely to be reversible encryption rather than hashing.

Also known as: useless encryption. As far as this is concerned.

[Pob]

Moved discussion about our name to marketing thread.

[Nick R]

How OlsBean has been treated in particular is fucking terrible. I wonder if it's possible for Pockets, now in posession of a useless account with £40 in it, to just give the details to OlsBean so he can use it to rebuy his kid a couple of games to tide him over while his fuckup continues? To spice it up we can take bets on if it'll either be a nice piece of philanthropism that works, or if the account just gets banned again.

Sharing account details? That's a paddlin' bannin'.