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Might have droned on about this before but my favourite Amiga setup down the years was my A500 transferred to a desktop case. It had two floppy drives built in (both with nice bi-colour activity LEDs), Kickstart switcher (initially had 1.2/1.3 but I upgraded to 1.3/2.04).

I had a 20meg SCSI drive with Worbench 2.04 on it. I think it was a Commodore A590 but looking it up it had no passthrough for the expansion slot yet I had an Action Replay plugged into it. Used to use the AR for ripping mods mostly. There was also a PC tower with a huge 310meg HD plus an 80meg removeable drive and a CD-ROM drive. Spent many a happy hour using this setup. Had a few CD-ROMs of demos (Euroscene). Would also use it to transfer disk images to a 386 laptop via serial (slooooow) from dodgy warez CDs.

Bought an A1200 in 1995 via Micro Mart. It had a 120meg HD in it. Added a Blizzard 1230 with 50mhz 030 and 8meg of RAM (I honestly can't remember if I went for the 68882 co-processor). I still have this machine today but my Philips 8833 needs the caps replacing and I don't know how to get that sorted.

Two problems with my A1200: firstly you cannot boot with CTRL+A+A, you have to type reboot into a shell. Not sure why it does that. Secondly I over-zealously screwed in the external floppy drive connector. Now it won't unscrew! What's the best way to get baked-in screws loose?

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You could try putting some heat on it, maybe with a soldering iron or something nice and accurate like that. Or a flamethrower. If it came to the worst you could drill the screw out but those things are pretty small so theres chance of knackering the thread.

Lorf, when you're bored of the 1200 let me know. I'll buy it off you. I could do with a stand for my Jaguar.

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Every time that I contemplate selling my Amiga 500, 1200, and games collection, someone creates an Amiga appreciation thread! I have incredibly fond memories of my Amiga years but my collection has been stored in the loft for several years. I bought a flash card for the A1200 a while ago but I just don't have the knowledge (or the time, perhaps) to upgrade my Amiga and really make the most of it.

There are many classic Amiga games that are still great fun to play today though, including Speedball 2, Rodland, Qwak (I've got this on GBA too), Megalomania, Sensible Soccer, Gravity Power (PD game)... oh God the list could go on.

I'd never part with my Amiga Power magazine collection though, they're always great to read for a nostalgia trip.

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I fired mine up tonight and at least on my CF card if you hold the left mouse button while it's booting you'll get an extra set of options to help you maximise available memory, one I think is purely CLI based (so you launch games through the command prompt) but the other is a graphical launcher.

Also try the right mouse button and you can use the game launcher, which is pretty cool. It's part of classic wb, I believe

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Still no sign of my accel card :( It's very hit and miss trying to find games that will work. I've got a list of LemonAmiga's top 100 but they all seem to want loads of RAM, fingers crossed it'll arrive tomorrow!

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You need more RAM to effectively use WHDLoad games, and accelerators generally take care of that. Otherwise, even A500 games on top of ClassicWB can exhaust the available memory on a stock unit.

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It's shocking just how much RAM gets used on simple things like opening Windows. Once the WB is loaded there's usually 1.3MB left and opening a couple of windows drops that to around 1.1MB, most just fall over. Annoying as I've no idea what's what and its a bit of a gamble just opening them to see what works. Everything is divided into A,B,C, D etc folders so no idea what is meant to be an A500, A600 or A1200 game.

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I bought my first ever Amiga around a month ago, a nice A1200, and I quickly fitted an SD drive to it. Unfortunately at some point while fitting the SD drive, the second row on the keyboard (qwertyuiop) has stopped working?! Probably easy enough to sort...

Anyway I'm kinda disappointed about the compatibility issues with some older games. I was desperate to play Batman the Movie but it seems it doesn't like something about the A1200 :-(

Some games, like the Dizzy series and Lotus 2 & 3 will work after messing around in the boot menu, but others don't seem to want to play.

Overall though it's a great system! Just need to get a joystick now as a Megadrive pad doesn't seem right somehow!

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You have probably not plugged the keyboard cable back in or forced it to come out a bit. It's nice and easy to sort just lift the top off and you will see it, reseat and see what happens.

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It's shocking just how much RAM gets used on simple things like opening Windows. Once the WB is loaded there's usually 1.3MB left and opening a couple of windows drops that to around 1.1MB, most just fall over. Annoying as I've no idea what's what and its a bit of a gamble just opening them to see what works. Everything is divided into A,B,C, D etc folders so no idea what is meant to be an A500, A600 or A1200 game.

Absolutely, It's really hot and miss how much memory a WHDload game needs, plus some are programmed to only use Fastmem, meaning even if you have enough chipmem, it's not enough.

The other issue is that old games usually use a kick 1.3 image, that's loaded into memory, in order to get backwards compatibility. There's another 512k you need.

Trust me, wait till you get the memory, it's really frustrating if you don't have it. Especially if you're looking at all those games and wanting to play them!

Only other thing I could suggest is only for for games after 1989 that only use one disk. You might be alright, but then it's hit and miss.

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I was going to give some recommendations from that list but yeah, they're all pretty good!

Actually, Dreamweb is in the list twice and although I played through it on PC back in the day I really enjoyed the rainy, dystopian near-future atmosphere. Top soundtrack as well, and surprisingly gory for a top-down point and clicker. If I remember right it's one of those games that's very short if you know what you're doing.

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I don't have much gaming nostalgia for the Amiga but remember the shadow it cast over the rest of the home computing scene well. I recall a local game shop (before EB, before Future Zone, before any corporate gaming presence on the high street) running Shadow Of The Beast on loop and it being the absolute darling of the gaming press for quite a while.

The rivalry between Amiga and Atari ST owners seemed to be a very real thing, with some Amiga fans conceding that music software / capability was the one area in which they couldn't compete, after all, they had STs on Top Of The Pops. Nintendo/Sega fanboys didn't exist when I was growing up - it was all slightly older kids who loved and faught for their 16-bit computers instead.

Anyway, the Amiga had the dubious distinction of being the first platform I ever saw pornographic video on. Discs of grainy but definitely very real hardcore, dicks fannies and blowjobs, all being surreptitiously loaded up right under my mates' parents' noses.

The other overriding memory I have of the Amiga was laughing tears at this series of naughty crank call type audio messages. I guess these 'xxx' discs were orderable from the back of games mags / red top rags but I never had the gumption to ask. At my impressionable age these things were pretty damn funny. Maybe the character who did them went by the name of Mr Cunt..? Does that ring any bells? He wasn't funny at all was he..?

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Anyway I'm kinda disappointed about the compatibility issues with some older games. I was desperate to play Batman the Movie but it seems it doesn't like something about the A1200 :-(

Some games, like the Dizzy series and Lotus 2 & 3 will work after messing around in the boot menu, but others don't seem to want to play.

What you need is a copy of Relokick. I think v1.4 was the last one produced.

What this does is load a Kickstart 1.3 ROM image into an area of RAM above the 1 meg location and then points the system to that instead of the 3.0 or 3.1 ROMs.

Reboot and you're then faced with the old Kickstart 1.3 picture.

Almost every non AGA game will now work, but you won't be able to use the hard drive.

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It's shocking just how much RAM gets used on simple things like opening Windows. Once the WB is loaded there's usually 1.3MB left and opening a couple of windows drops that to around 1.1MB, most just fall over. Annoying as I've no idea what's what and its a bit of a gamble just opening them to see what works. Everything is divided into A,B,C, D etc folders so no idea what is meant to be an A500, A600 or A1200 game.

You'll find that once you get extra RAM installed that a good chunk that's currently being used by chip memory will get moved to FastMem. I think I've got about 1.7 megs of chip RAM free on my system after boot, and that's with a skinned Workbench, 32 colour backdrop, menu system and desktop clock running.

It'll be interesting to see if your Amiga powers up once the accelerator is installed (I expect it will). In the early 90s I had to buy a Goliath power supply as my 1200 wouldn't power up with a hard drive and accelerator installed. I suspect that as you have a CF card instead of a hard disk the power usage will be much less.

I do hope that you continue to enjoy your time with your new Amiga. It's a lovely machine and a lot of fun to expand. I upgraded from an A500 to a 1200 and over the years have kept expanding it. My current setup is:

- Motherboard installed in a Power Tower

- 3.1 ROMs

- OS 3.9

- 68030 CPU

- 32 megs FastRAM

- 80 gig hard drive

- A3000 keyboard

- USB mouse adaptor and USB mouse

- Megadrive 2 pad

- 2 x floppy drives

- 56 speed CDROM drive

- 10Mb network card

- MAS MP3 player interface

- Indivision AGA Mk2 card

- Dual monitors (1942 CRT and a Dell TFT)

I'm tempted to get myself a USB card expansion at some point. Slightly pointless as if I want to transfer files to/from the Mac I can do it over the network. It's more a case of "Because it's fun".

Have fun!

That's awesome cheers!

I've not bothered going down the HDD route due to the extra RAM required, so everything is loaded from the Gotek SD drive. I'll have a look later!

See if you can dig out an ADF of of Relokick and you'll be sorted.
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It'll be interesting to see if your Amiga powers up once the accelerator is installed (I expect it will). In the early 90s I had to buy a Goliath power supply as my 1200 wouldn't power up with a hard drive and accelerator installed. I suspect that as you have a CF card instead of a hard disk the power usage will be much less.

The A1200 psu was pretty weak but a A500 one should run all the hardware ok.

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I've had an A1200 with CF HD and one of the Amiga Kit Accel cards in the past, it ran off the stock power supply. The one that's on the way doesn't have a processor so even weaker so should be fine! Spent an hour trying to play games at random but almost chucked it out the window in frustration at all the shadow memory errors, tracking info is still showing the card sat over at Calais :(

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It has retro cables .com stamped on the side but the sellers a bit of an arse. I paid Wednesday and it was meant to be posted first class. Still no dispatch nite as of yesterday so I sent a friendly email asking if he'd sent it out and no reply. Still isnt here.

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Thanks, I'd seen those on eBay. LEt me know how you get on as I might buy one. Can you also test to see if it works with usb joysticks? It looks like it's cheaper to get a usb competition pro than an original!

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